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Suggestions on selling home needed...flooded market

vi edit

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Here's my situation -
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/viedit/street.jpg

We own a townhome in a subdivision almost entirely made up of them. All of the houses are nearly identical. Same sq ft, same back yard sizes, same floor plan, ect. They just differ a bit in color. We do live in a highly desireable area so that's a plus, but the problem is that everyone on my street is selling at this time as well. 🙁

I have to sell my home because I'm moving to another state in a few months. Renting isn't an option and I'd like to FSBO if at all possible. Everyone else on the block is FSBO as well.

I know what everyone on my block is asking for their homes, and honestly, they are asking $5,000 to $10,000 too much. For another $10,000 more than what they are asking for a 5 year old home, somebody could drive down the street and buy a brand new townhome with an additional 150 square feet.

For reference, one home is asking $145,000, another is asking $144,000. Two are asking $141,000. I'm not sure what the fifth is asking. The new homes down the road are going for $155,000.

All I want is $135,000. I'd walk away with a little over $20,000 in equity in under 3 years time. In this region, that is pretty good. I was thinking of listing at $138,000 and taking an offer as low as $135,000.

I'd rather make a fast and clean sale than sit on the market for 4 months because of an overinflated price. We talked to the people that live on the other side of our property. They are the ones asking $145,000. They've had some bites on the place, but the callers lose interest once they hear the asking price. The sellers are considering lowering the price. I'm not sure how low they will knock it down to.

I'm not too scared about pissing off neighbors by dropping the bottom out of the pricing. They overpriced in the first place. What I am worried about though, is do you think it makes it look like something is wrong with my home if I'm $10,000 less than the other guy next to me?

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Upate:

Listed the house with a realtor @ $143,900 and signed the paper at 4:30 Friday night. Realtor put sign in the yard at 7:30 Saturday morning.

This morning (Sunday) we got a call at 11:30 AM to get out so they could do a showing at 12:30. At 4:30 we had an offer for $140,900. Countered at $142,900 and offer was accepted. Realtor also dropped the commission to 5% instead of 6% since they didn't have to do ANY work...no showings, no open houses, didn't even list it on the MLS, ect.

So after the smoke cleared we wound up spending $100 less than what I was going to list it FSBO at.

I've got earnest money down, and they've be pre-approved for the amount. Closing date also worked out to be when we wanted out as well. Nearly perfect deal.

Yay!
 
If you are happy with 135k then list for 135k firm. No haggling. This will generate alot of interest from buyers that do not want to negotiate. You will attract more buyers whick may lead to a bidding contest that may lift your price above 135k.

Good Luck!
 
Originally posted by: frankie38
If you are happy with 135k then list for 135k firm. No haggling. This will generate alot of interest from buyers that do not want to negotiate. You will attract more buyers whick may lead to a bidding contest that may lift your price above 135k.

Good Luck!

Yeh, I'd just assume list the exact price I'd take, but I was playing to the logic that people expect to dicker on prices to feel like they are getting a better deal.

I'm not that way, but a lot of people are. It's just not worth my time to sit and fire offers back and forth when the results are pretty much the same.
 
Man tough question. I would be worried to buy on your street since so many people are selling at once.

On top of that if you drop to $138,000 someone else will drop too to compete, then another and then another. You do not want to get into a bidding war, because then you could start a mini-recession in your neighbourhood. The worst time to sell is when lots of other people around you are doing the same.

The best thing you can do is educate yourself on what your neighbours paid for their home. Do a bit of math and estimate what equity they've got. This is tough since you don't know what they put down, but it shouldn't matter much because they will want to get that out as well.

You will also want to differentiate your house as much as possible. Make sure it is clean inside and out. Make sure there is a fresh coat of paint outside and in to cover up marks. Maybe replace the main carpet on the first level (the one people walk in on). Depending on the size a small investment $1500 might make the difference. Make sure you are ready to close ASAP and make sure you are more flexible than anyone else.

You are going to have to compete to sell your home.
 
yeah, you shouldn't have a problem at all, because the other homes will generate traffic for you.

I would list it at 136,500 and be willing to go down to 135k

1500 is plenty of money to cover any sort of defect or cosmetic issue.
 
Originally posted by: frankie38
If you are happy with 135k then list for 135k firm. No haggling. This will generate alot of interest from buyers that do not want to negotiate. You will attract more buyers whick may lead to a bidding contest that may lift your price above 135k.

Good Luck!

Bad idea. List at $135K and the offers will be $130k...


I can't stress how much watching shows like Designed to Sell and Sell This House can teach you about getting your home ready for sale. My wife and I sold her apartment for an insane amount of money mostly because of the cosmetic low budget things we did to it.

In short:
Get rid of any and all clutter - especially photographs
Clean then place!!!
Put on a fresh coat of paint
 
I know exactly what people paid for their homes because our county assessor lists the purchase prices on line. I'm fortunate that I have owned the second longest and have the second highest amount of appreciation equity in it (not including down payments).

Our house is immaculate inside with brand new paint in every room and the carpet is very clean. Exterior wise the house is under 4 years old so there isn't much really to do.
 
I'd bite the bullet and get a realtor. Too many people don't trust FSBO. It's a pretty safe bet that any home listed by the owner is porbably asking a bunch more than it's worth.
The problem is that I'm going to subtract $10k from your price, even if it's $10k less than your neighbor. And I am going to wonder why.
 
Just arrange the furniture to make the rooms apprear large. If you have your house stuffed to the gills with wall units, couches, tables, chairs, etc.. you will make it seem a lot bigger if you move some it out.
 
Originally posted by: Jzero
I'd bite the bullet and get a realtor. Too many people don't trust FSBO. It's a pretty safe bet that any home listed by the owner is porbably asking a bunch more than it's worth.
The problem is that I'm going to subtract $10k from your price, even if it's $10k less than your neighbor. And I am going to wonder why.

This is a different market. Realtors aren't as big and you see a lot of FSBO homes. People here are more trusting than in other areas so the validation of a Realor isn't as much of an issue.
 
Originally posted by: vi_edit
Here's my situation -
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/viedit/street.jpg

I'm not too scared about pissing off neighbors by dropping the bottom out of the pricing. They overpriced in the first place. What I am worried about though, is do you think it makes it look like something is wrong with my home if I'm $10,000 less than the other guy next to me?

No, it just means you are motivated to sell. If there is anything wrong with the home it would come up during the home inspection. Don't worry about it.

Edit-I used this trick when we sold our condo prior to buying our house. Get some bread dough from the supermarket and bake a loaf of bread just before you have an open house. Makes the house smell nice and it only costs a buck or so. If you already have them on the visual and then get them on the olfactory sense it sticks in their mind. It is entirely subconscious but it makes people feel welcome and it is inviting.
 
Originally posted by: Mwilding
Originally posted by: frankie38
If you are happy with 135k then list for 135k firm. No haggling. This will generate alot of interest from buyers that do not want to negotiate. You will attract more buyers whick may lead to a bidding contest that may lift your price above 135k.

Good Luck!

Bad idea. List at $135K and the offers will be $130k...


I can't stress how much watching shows like Designed to Sell and Sell This House can teach you about getting your home ready for sale. My wife and I sold her apartment for an insane amount of money mostly because of the cosmetic low budget things we did to it.

In short:
Get rid of any and all clutter - especially photographs
Clean then place!!!
Put on a fresh coat of paint

:thumbsup:

 
I'd rather make a fast and clean sale than sit on the market for 4 months because of an overinflated price
I know what I would do. I would ask myself what is it worth to me to sell the place in a hurry considering the market is flooded and time is short. I might decide that the answer is $5K. Then I'd find an agent to sell it for 4% commission. If everyone else is FSBO, you will have an advantage because you'll have someone actively working to sell your house. If an agent sells the house for $140K, you'll net just what you wanted anyway. Make it a short-term deal so your hands aren't tied for too long.

I wonder if you can get a contract that says the agent can keep everything over $135K. That would be a heck of an incentive!

Now I'm no fan of paying exhorbitant real estate commissions, but I think in this case the pieces fall into place.
 
Originally posted by: Mwilding
Just arrange the furniture to make the rooms apprear large. If you have your house stuffed to the gills with wall units, couches, tables, chairs, etc.. you will make it seem a lot bigger if you move some it out.

Cramming isn't out style. We are very anti "clutter". All furniture is along walls, very limited unneed "extras". Only things on walls are a few framed oil paintings that compliment the rest of the room. I've been in some of the other homes and do feel a lot more claustrophobic than ours because of extra stuff and knick nacks laying around. We try to keep as much open floor space as we can. I like the open feel it creates.
 
Originally posted by: vi_edit
Originally posted by: Mwilding
Just arrange the furniture to make the rooms apprear large. If you have your house stuffed to the gills with wall units, couches, tables, chairs, etc.. you will make it seem a lot bigger if you move some it out.

Cramming isn't out style. We are very anti "clutter". All furniture is along walls, very limited unneed "extras". Only things on walls are a few framed oil paintings that compliment the rest of the room. I've been in some of the other homes and do feel a lot more claustrophobic than ours because of extra stuff and knick nacks laying around. We try to keep as much open floor space as we can. I like the open feel it creates.
This is key, because you are selling a house just like all the other ones. People will want yours because they can better see how their stuff would go in there...

 
Your neighbors will hate you if you sell at that price. Not because you'll undercut them, but because you'll screw up all the sales comparables.
And selling FSBO isn't free. Expect up to $1k in costs. Plus FSBO have a bad rep for a jerkoff seller asking too much because he's refinanced 10 times and is buried in the house.

My advice is to hire a realtor and ask $142k. You should sell quicker and net around $135k. Don't worry about everyone else putting their home up for sell. Everywhere I have lived, I have had neighbors who listed every spring... but never sold.
 
Originally posted by: vi_edit
Originally posted by: Mwilding
Just arrange the furniture to make the rooms apprear large. If you have your house stuffed to the gills with wall units, couches, tables, chairs, etc.. you will make it seem a lot bigger if you move some it out.

Cramming isn't out style. We are very anti "clutter". All furniture is along walls, very limited unneed "extras". Only things on walls are a few framed oil paintings that compliment the rest of the room. I've been in some of the other homes and do feel a lot more claustrophobic than ours because of extra stuff and knick nacks laying around. We try to keep as much open floor space as we can. I like the open feel it creates.

since U R moving out, U don't need to care about the neighbor. 🙂
So, whatever tickle your pickle.
 
Screw your neighbours.
They overpriced in the first place. What I am worried about though, is do you think it makes it look like something is wrong with my home if I'm $10,000 less than the other guy next to me?
Unlike a car, a home is much easier to inspect. If I was going in a neighborhood and found one significantly priced less I'd be interested. I'd get it inspected and all that, but otherwise I'd just assume they want to sell fast.

You and I have the same approach to selling. I'd rather lose a few bucks and move whatever the heck I'm trying to get rid of.
Your neighbors will hate you if you sell at that price. Not because you'll undercut them, but because you'll screw up all the sales comparables.
That's not his problem though--not even morally, IMO. If he's in a hurry and sells it for $50k, that's his prerogative 😀
 
These days haggling for houses doesn't happen as much. With mortgage rates still pretty low, there's usually more buyers than sellers so if one person wants to haggle, chances are another couple won't and they'll get it. Just put it up for the FIRM price you want and put Firm in there so people know that there's no negotiating. See what happens.

Good Luck.
 
Thanks for all the info everyone. I might stop in and see what options I have available with a realtor. If the realtor could get $142k for the place, that would come out about even with what I was looking at selling FSBO.

How hard is it to get a 4% commission commitement from a realtor? The standard is 6%-7%, correct?
 
Who cares if you screw the neighbors, its not like they're going to be his neighbors much longer. In fact, he should take this as a golden opportunity to blow donuts on their lawn without reprecussions.
 
Originally posted by: vi_edit
Thanks for all the info everyone. I might stop in and see what options I have available with a realtor. If the realtor could get $142k for the place, that would come out about even with what I was looking at selling FSBO.

How hard is it to get a 4% commission commitement from a realtor? The standard is 6%-7%, correct?
It's dropped to 5% around here. It doesn't hurt to ask!

 
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