legalize drugs pot, free pot offenders from prison.
shit I just solved the problem *high fives self*
shit I just solved the problem *high fives self*
MovingTarget
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Honestly, the only thing I can think of is the post office. Sure, the government is inefficient in running things a lot of the time, but when considering privatization you have to balance that against corporate profits and cost-cutting. You get what you pay for, imho.
:roll:
Take an example from something and apply it to the whole. Idiot tactic #2546
Why the hell would I want Govt healthcare? Did you miss the whole VA Walter-Reed scandal?
I can't find the story but I believe there was a case where 2 judges were sending kids to some sort of youth prison and getting kick backs for the "business" from the prison. Things like that may cast privatization in a bad light even though the fault is breaking the law and not privatization itself.
*EDIT*
Looks like it was found (above) but rather than demonizing privatization, the people and/or organizations involved should pay heft penalties.
Privatization has always and will always sacrifice the rights of a person for a quick buck. There's no reason to believe this wouldn't change with a privatized prison.
Phokus
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OOOOOOOOOOOkay, well privatization of prisons would need prisoners to be profitable which means there's an incentive to not end the war on drugs.
And what does walter-reed scandal have to do with government single payer health insurance (where actual medical care delivery is still private)? Oh yeah, you're dumb, that's what.
And government run has always and will always lead to corruption, inefficiency, and lower quality.
See how that works?
Phokus
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There's no such thing as corruption, inefficiency, and low quality with private goods/services
*buys lead tainted toys*
*almost destroys world economy with 'genius' financial tricks* (then ironically cries about government saving world economy from complete annihilation)
*creates ponzi scheme defrauding hundreds of millions of dollars from investors*
And why would you think there is an incentive to end the war on drugs? Who do you think fills most of our government prisons? Why do you think the prison industrial complex, the police, the prison guards unions, etc would want more lax drug laws?
You really dont think before you type, do you?
dali71
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I'm impressed that you had the integrity to link that, considering that both of the judges were Democrats.
http://commonsensepoliticalthought.com/?p=4560
Phokus
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So you're saying the owners of the prisons don't give a shit if drug sentences are reduced or eliminated?
Man you're dumb, they lobby for stricter sentences. Because it's profitable, duh.
http://thephoenix.com/Boston/N...-watch-Jailhouse-bloc/
And again, you equating walter reed to single payer healthcare is extremely dumb, of course you don't think before you type.
Woah, was that the country in the newest James Bond film?
BTW, the private sector only works when there is sufficient competition. Privatized monopolies need extremely strict government regulation to work. I'm all for any market that can be freely competitive to be left to the private sector, but something like say...the highway system is just asking for failure.
I guess schools could fall into something that could be privatized, but it seems like having many competing schools would be an inefficient use of resources.
This is a dumb thread. Has there been a nationalized industry in this nation that was privatized? I dont think there has?
The closest would probably be deregulating industries like Airlines. Which has been a tremendous success.
But look around the world and especially in places like China, Russia, and the Eastern Bloc where former state run industries were privatized.
The closest would probably be deregulating industries like Airlines. Which has been a tremendous success.
But look around the world and especially in places like China, Russia, and the Eastern Bloc where former state run industries were privatized.
Some smaller communities outsource garbage and recyclable collections - they typically don't have the cash to purchase high-dollar equipment or build landfills. As they get bigger it doesn't really save cash.
Same thing with water and wasterwater plant operators in smaller towns. They contract it out because they cannot afford the salaries demanded by licensed operators.
Charlotte built Bob Johnson a $300 million b-ball palace and gave it to him to operate. For the most part I think it's been a failure.
It's most Johnson's fault (for being an absentee franchise owner and whiny complainer about his "lack of support from the business community"), but the City has a hand in this, too.
People voted overwhelmingly not to build it - but Charlotte tore down a perfectly good 23,000 seat $125 million 20-year old arena in great condition and built the new 18,000-seat digs downtown, anyway. Sold off the land from the old arena for $25 million.
Serves 'em right when the ACC basketball tourney said, "Umm. Thanks, but no thanks."
But they got the CIAA!
Same thing with water and wasterwater plant operators in smaller towns. They contract it out because they cannot afford the salaries demanded by licensed operators.
Charlotte built Bob Johnson a $300 million b-ball palace and gave it to him to operate. For the most part I think it's been a failure.
It's most Johnson's fault (for being an absentee franchise owner and whiny complainer about his "lack of support from the business community"), but the City has a hand in this, too.
People voted overwhelmingly not to build it - but Charlotte tore down a perfectly good 23,000 seat $125 million 20-year old arena in great condition and built the new 18,000-seat digs downtown, anyway. Sold off the land from the old arena for $25 million.
Serves 'em right when the ACC basketball tourney said, "Umm. Thanks, but no thanks."
But they got the CIAA!
A lot of countries have privatized their social security (or at least most of it) and have had success. Look at the United Kingdom for an example.
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FYI I don't have a link, but there was a story a couple of days ago, in which state I don't remember, that the bail bonds association was lobbying for that state not to increase the number of "released on own recognizance" cases so the state would save money on incarcerating suspects until trial.
The bail bonds companies were complaining it was bad for their business!!
The bail bonds companies were complaining it was bad for their business!!
QuantumPion
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The post office is one of the few things the government currently does that actually is in the constitution.
QuantumPion
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The problem is, politicians can claim ANYTHING is for the common good and thus privy to their control. For example, New Haven Connecticut where the state used eminent domain power to confiscate private homes to give the land to commercial developers. Their reasoning was that the increased property tax revenue to the state was for the common good.
The only thing the government should be allowed to run are PUBLIC goods. A public good is something that everyone pays for and receives benefit from equally, and that the usage of by one person does not diminish the usefulness for anyone else. For example, national defense.
Framing a strawman and then slaying it: Idiot tactic #245
You are on a roll today!
You got caught saying that somehow the government prisons and employees dont benefit from drug prosecutions. You can put words in my mouth all you want, but you just continue to dig.
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