Subway's Atkins wrap

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Atkins is nice as it helps to control your blood sugar and insulin levels. Foods high on the glycemic index like processed sugar and flour are converted into blood sugar quickly. When your body is high on blood sugar, your pancreas releases insulin to balance you out. When your blood sugar level falls off quickly, your body still has a lot of insulin in your system. This makes you want to eat again.

I rarely get the strong cravings to eat while I'm on Atkins. If I do, I crush them with salad or cheese.

Note: I'm not saying this is the only way to lose weight. Just about any kind of diet coupled with exercise will let you lose weight. Atkins has worked for me, however, to the tune of 17 lbs.

 

[DBL]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
For frig's sake eat less and excercise more. This country will be fatter 10 years from now than it is now (I know, it's hard to believe). Atkins isn't doing jack squat, because until people realize that the magic bullet is eat less + excercise more, they're going to continue to fatten up like little porkers ready to be served up for thanksgiving dinner.

All this low carb stuff works long term for about .000000034% of people who try it. They got fat by being lazy and lacking willpower, and staying on Atkins requires effort, so they fall off the bandwagon and find themselves once again putting down a whole 2L bottle of coke and pizza and blaming it on their cortisol levels.

Well, you make a valid point but you seem to be uninformed regarding one of the major theories of a low-carb diet. Eating carbs raises your blood-sugar level and thus helps to increase the sugar/carb craving that many people feel when eating a high carb diet. Eating low-carb helps people to kick their sugar addiction, which in turns translates into fewer calories consumed and significant weight-loss. There must be a reason Americans have gotten so astronomically fat in such a short time and according to the low-carb theory, it's directly related to the high-carb, low fat diet pushed by the FDA, which, while in and of itself is not bad, tends to result in binge eating.

 

[Jeraden]

Why does every topic about anything atkins/low-carb always go off-topic with people preaching about their dietary beliefs.

 

[dullard]

Originally posted by: SuperTool
Don't be hating.
What is balanced diet? The food pyramid?

No the food pyramid is probably the most unbalanced diet plan I've ever heard of. Why? Because it doesn't promote eating a variety of foods.

11 grains: No problem I'll eat 11 pieces of white bread a day.
2 fruit servings: Ok I'll put some fruit jelly on each bread slice.
2 milk: Ok two servings of ice cream a day.
2 meat: Ok I'll add two McDonald's hamburger patties.
3 vegetables: Lets just say I eat half a head of iceburg lettuce.

Lets see ANYONE be healthy eating that list above 7 days a week, year after year. You'll be following the food pyramid perfectly - yet you'll have viturally no vitamins or minerals at all. Scurvy here we come!

The food pyramid is exactly what farmers use to fatten up their livestock before selling them. Think about it, should people who want to lose weight be eating foods in the same way that fattens up animals?

 

[RaynorWolfcastle]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
For frig's sake eat less and excercise more. This country will be fatter 10 years from now than it is now (I know, it's hard to believe). Atkins isn't doing jack squat, because until people realize that the magic bullet is eat less + excercise more, they're going to continue to fatten up like little porkers ready to be served up for thanksgiving dinner.

All this low carb stuff works long term for about .000000034% of people who try it. They got fat by being lazy and lacking willpower, and staying on Atkins requires effort, so they fall off the bandwagon and find themselves once again putting down a whole 2L bottle of coke and pizza and blaming it on their cortisol levels.

IMHO, low carb is a good way to shed a few pounds but I wouldn't stay on it for the long term (not that I think it's really sustainable anyways). I went on Atkins for a couple of months, dropped 15 lbs and now I'm just eating balanced meals to maintain weight. I think this is a good way to apply Atkins and other low carb diets.

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: DBL

Well, you make a valid point but you seem to be uninformed regarding one of the major theories of a low-carb diet. Eating carbs raises your blood-sugar level and thus helps to increase the sugar/carb craving that many people feel when eating a high carb diet. Eating low-carb helps people to kick their sugar addiction, which in turns translates into fewer calories consumed and significant weight-loss. There must be a reason Americans have gotten so astronomically fat in such a short time and according to the low-carb theory, it's directly related to the high-carb, low fat diet pushed by the FDA, which, while in and of itself is not bad, tends to result in binge eating.

I'm informed enough to know that a year after the average person starts atkins, hollywood, seafood, or coca cola diet they're going to be heavier than when they started. It's not a fault of Atkins BTW. It does work. It's a fault of the person who gets too lazy to continue with it, and repeats the cycle of quitting which they've embraced throughout their lives. Atkins is like a tool to a carpenter. You may have the best power equipment in the world but if you're all thumbs you're not going to be making any pretty wood art any time soon. People need to change their mindset and realize that it's up to them to lose weight, not something or somebody else.

Another reason people have tubbed up is that in the last two decades (or three....I can't remember the number), the average woman eats 20% more calories and the average man eats 7%. How many people at my place of work eat out most days and do no excercise? All of them, but one, who kind of half assedly excercises.

Why does every topic about anything atkins/low-carb always go off-topic with people preaching about their dietary beliefs.

The same reason parents can't stand to watch their kids do something dumb. Sorry to be so patronizing though

 

[dullard]

In my opinion, Atkins has some very good ideas, but takes these ideas further than they need to go.

1) Studies have shown repeatedly that the best diet to lose weight is a high fiber diet. Basically fiber fills you up, and since you cannot digest it, it just passes right through you. In fact, fiber carries with it things you normally would have digested. Thus the more fiber you eat the less food you digest, and the less you weigh. Atkins net carbs encourages high fiber foods. Thus Atkins encourages people to do what has been proven to lose weight.

2) Studies show that people eating lots of quickly digested sugar will crave more food at the next meal. For example person (A) eats a bowl of frosted flakes for breakfast, person (B) skips breakfast, and person (C) eats a low carb breakfast. Who eats the most for lunch? Most people assume the answer is (B). If you think that, you are incorrect. Person (A) eats the most for lunch and person (B) and (C) eat the same sized lunch. Why? The high level of quickly digested sugar makes person (A) much more hungry thoughout the day. Atkins avoids that problem. However in my opinion there are other (possibly better) ways of avoiding a diet high in easilly digestable carbohydrates. There is nothing wrong with the slow to digest carbohydrates - this is where I disagree with Atkins.

3) Studies show that Atkins diet does drop weight initially faster than most other diets (I haven't seen it directly compared to a high fiber diet in the same study). However after 6 months people on the Atkins diet generally start gaining weight, when people on the other diets are still steadilly losing slowly. After about 1 year Atkins is no longer the best diet. Why? Probably since people cannot keep it up, Atkins is just too strict. And it is strict in areas where there is no proof that those restrictions help.

A diet which is low in easilly digested carbohydrates and high in fiber will work very well at losing weight. Atkins does this. However Atkins just goes too far in my opinion. There is no reason have the induction phase if your goal is long term weight loss (it is fine for a short term loss - but then you have to really be conserned about heart health if you abuse it), and there is no reason to avoid the slowly digested carbohydrates.

 

[Chiropteran]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
How many people at my place of work eat out most days and do no excercise?

Exercise I agree with, but eating out in itself is not unhealthy. Cooking for one person is terribly inefficient and so I eat out a lot myself. Eating out doesn't mean McDonald's. Plus there is the fact that if I try to eat at my desk people will constantly interrupt me with stupid requests. If i'm going to take a lunch break I'm going to get out of this damn office.

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: Chiropteran

Originally posted by: Skoorb
How many people at my place of work eat out most days and do no excercise?

Exercise I agree with, but eating out in itself is not unhealthy. Cooking for one person is terribly inefficient and so I eat out a lot myself. Eating out doesn't mean McDonald's. Plus there is the fact that if I try to eat at my desk people will constantly interrupt me with stupid requests. If i'm going to take a lunch break I'm going to get out of this damn office.

Oh I don't mean eating out a salad from wendys or a 6"er from subway. I'm talking nachos from applebees or a plate of ribs from a BBQ joint

 

[ReiAyanami]

d00d, that jared guy lost 600lbs by eating subway subs, because they're low fat and the bread is quite filling. u'll get fat and poor trying to go atkins at subway.

 

[DBL]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
I'm informed enough to know that a year after the average person starts atkins, hollywood, seafood, or coca cola diet they're going to be heavier than when they started. It's not a fault of Atkins BTW. It does work. It's a fault of the person who gets too lazy to continue with it, and repeats the cycle of quitting which they've embraced throughout their lives. Atkins is like a tool to a carpenter. You may have the best power equipment in the world but if you're all thumbs you're not going to be making any pretty wood art any time soon. People need to change their mindset and realize that it's up to them to lose weight, not something or somebody else.

Another reason people have tubbed up is that in the last two decades (or three....I can't remember the number), the average woman eats 20% more calories and the average man eats 7%. How many people at my place of work eat out most days and do no excercise? All of them, but one, who kind of half assedly excercises. Why does every topic about anything atkins/low-carb always go off-topic with people preaching about their dietary beliefs. The same reason parents can't stand to watch their kids do something dumb. Sorry to be so patronizing though

I think we are in general agreement here regarding why people have been gaining weight. All I'm saying is that a low-carb diet, in theory, helps chronic over-eaters to maintain a more reasonable daily intake of calories by helping the dieter to understand and control what it is that causes them to binge and thus gain weight. A low-carb diet is a lot more complex than just cutting carbs.

 

[nitsuj3580]

Originally posted by: dullard
In my opinion, Atkins has some very good ideas, but takes these ideas further than they need to go.

1) Studies have shown repeatedly that the best diet to lose weight is a high fiber diet. Basically fiber fills you up, and since you cannot digest it, it just passes right through you. In fact, fiber carries with it things you normally would have digested. Thus the more fiber you eat the less food you digest, and the less you weigh. Atkins net carbs encourages high fiber foods. Thus Atkins encourages people to do what has been proven to lose weight.

2) Studies show that people eating lots of quickly digested sugar will crave more food at the next meal. For example person (A) eats a bowl of frosted flakes for breakfast, person (B) skips breakfast, and person (C) eats a low carb breakfast. Who eats the most for lunch? Most people assume the answer is (B). If you think that, you are incorrect. Person (A) eats the most for lunch and person (B) and (C) eat the same sized lunch. Why? The high level of quickly digested sugar makes person (A) much more hungry thoughout the day. Atkins avoids that problem. However in my opinion there are other (possibly better) ways of avoiding a diet high in easilly digestable carbohydrates. There is nothing wrong with the slow to digest carbohydrates - this is where I disagree with Atkins.

3) Studies show that Atkins diet does drop weight initially faster than most other diets (I haven't seen it directly compared to a high fiber diet in the same study). However after 6 months people on the Atkins diet generally start gaining weight, when people on the other diets are still steadilly losing slowly. After about 1 year Atkins is no longer the best diet. Why? Probably since people cannot keep it up, Atkins is just too strict. And it is strict in areas where there is no proof that those restrictions help.

A diet which is low in easilly digested carbohydrates and high in fiber will work very well at losing weight. Atkins does this. However Atkins just goes too far in my opinion. There is no reason have the induction phase if your goal is long term weight loss (it is fine for a short term loss - but then you have to really be conserned about heart health if you abuse it), and there is no reason to avoid the slowly digested carbohydrates.

This is why I'm reading the South Beach Diet book. Phase 1 is a strict two weeks but Phases 2 and 3 look like good balanced diets that are reasonable to maintain

 

[dullard]

Originally posted by: nitsuj3580
This is why I'm reading the South Beach Diet book. Phase 1 is a strict two weeks but Phases 2 and 3 look like good balanced diets that are reasonable to maintain

I have no knowledge of the South Beach Diet details (I've heard of it but I don't know what it is). When you are done, post a CliffsNotes version on ATOT.

 

[darkeneddays]

I love the wraps. Taste great and 11 and 8 net carbs isn't that bad. It even says on the sign in the drive-thru that it isn't recommended for those who are still in the induction phase. Once you've increased your carb intake to whatever your body cab handle, 11 really isn't a big deal.

Oh, and for months now I've watched as countless Atkins threads have turned into a war between individuals that follow Atkins and the group that forms the "you only need to eat right and exercise" section. While eating right and exercising are most definitly a golden rule to follow it still doesn't work for EVERYBODY. I've been a porker all my life. I don't blame anyone for it and yes, there were times I ate crap I shouldn't have and times I played nintendo instead of riding a bike. In March of last year I got tired of it. Decided to do 1500 calories a day and ride a bike to work(roughly 2 miles to and from).

In March I weighed 317. I was strict and only ate 1500 calories(mostly yogurt and fruits). In late Spetmeber I lost a whopping 17 pounds. That was nearly 6 months for 17 pounds. Weak.

In October I got on Atkins.Unlike most though, I've done 20 carbs a day since I started. I have cheat days from time to time(Xmas, Thanks giving) and sometimes eat 35ish, but mostly stick to 20. As of a week ago I'm down 245.(mini-porker status)

My point isn't to show that Atkins works, it may not for everybody, but to show that the low-calorie-exercise program is just like any other diet, it might work,it might not. So keep in mind that just because something works for your body/metabolism, it might not work for everyone elses.

 

[ReiAyanami]

3000 Cal supposedly translates to 1lbs of fat.

the average american eats 3000 Cal/day. the world average is about 1500 Cal/day and most poor ppl its 600-800 Cal/day.

so you eat 200% that of 5.7 billion other ppl in the world or about 400% that of a somalian, so forget the South Beach Diet, go for the Somalian diet and donate the diference to charity.

but yeah, if you stop eating you can lose 30lbs/month or 365lbs/year.