Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: Zebo
First you're wasting serious cash on mobo, IC7 is just as fast for half. Second you can get a 2.4C for less and OC with retail HS to 3.2C at a minimum. Third your video card is a rip. Fouth you don't need two cd roms, just get a combodrive. Fith Raptor is a waste if your on a budget... see anands review. Sixth get microsofts optical combo KB/mouse. half price and way better. Seventh Thermaltake sucks donkey nuts, look at that crappy 12V rail which both the processor and Vid card use. Eight a $10 soft modem is just as good. Ninth Zalman sucks and is expensive use retial HSF. Tenth the 3200DDR you have sucks, you want bandwidth or low latency and what you have in you cart gives you neither
...I could go on...
Anyway here's what I'd build for $1500 *with* a sweet 19" LCD within your criteria.
COOLER MASTER Centurion 4 Silver ATX Mid-Tower $64.00
Samsung Beige 52X24X52X16 CDR-W/DVD Combo Drive $45.00
NEC 1.44MB Black Internal Floppy Drive $9.50
SAMSUNG 80GB 7200RPM IDE Hard Drive, Model SP0802N $67.50
Two sticks A-DATA 184 Pin 512M DDR PC-4000 $216.00
BenQ FP951 19" LCD Monitor ? $549.00
ABIT "IS7-E" i865PE Chipset Motherboard for Intel Socket 478 CPU - $83.00
ENERMAX 350W Power Supply for AMD K7 & Pentium4, Model "EG365P-VE(FM)" $45.00
Intel Pentium 4/ 2.4C GHz 800MHz FSB, 512K Cache, Hyper Threading Technology -$169.00
Celestica ATI RADEON 9800PRO 128MB DDR, DVI/TV-Out, 8X AGP, Model "GOLD EDITION RADEON 9800PRO" $206.00
Product total: $1,450.00
Then add your $10 modem and Microsofts optical black combo and your *Still* less than $1500
I'm guessing you got all those posts in OT or P&N, because you're way off.
But then you agree with 75%
1) Maybe he needs the extras that accompany a top end motherboard, ie: extra sata connectors, gigabit lan. I'd still recommend the IC7 Max 3 over the Asus, just because I had serious problems using the Asus myself.
IS7 has gigabit, he's only buying one drive..doubt he needs more than 4 SATA connectors
2) The price difference between the 3.0 and 2.4 is now negligible, you'd pretty much be a food to get the 2.4C.
Same chip cheaper
3) The Celestica video card you suggested doesn't specify if the memory is 256-bit, and it is dangerous to assume that it isn't. The safer bet would be with the Sapphire version which specifies 256-bit and also goes for $206.
True that card i thought was 256..I usually do recommend 256 but erred here, fixed
4) Yeah, one combodrive is likely a good idea, unless he's some kind of software pirate.
we agree
5) Agreed, raptor is a waste. Mainly bragging rights. I'd rather have twice as much space.
We agree
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6) The only thing better than the MX Duo is the di Novo. THe MX Duo is simply an awsome combo, which looks and works great. It can usually be had for cheaper elsewhere though. Is the optical combo you speak of even wireless?
7) Yup, TT doesn't make anything worth buying. An Antec, Fortron or Seasonic would be a MUCH better choice.
we agree
8)Yeah, a modem is a modem. But does anybody remember the days when Winmodems were worse because they used processor power, and our processors were actually slow enough that it mattered?
we agree
9) Saying "Zalman sucks" is just idiotic. I don't think they make a single product that isn't awsome, and near the top of it's class. The 7000Cu is a great choice for most users. And advising the use of stock cooling AND overclocking in one post is beyond me.
Dude it offers terrible cooling I bet worse cooling than Stock HSF and it's forty freaking dollars, I could buy a processor for that, what a waste. go over to overclockers.com and see how low it's rated..besides he does'nt need an aftermarket HS., I overclock 600Mhz axp with a $8 HSF. I do understand that would be "beyond" your realm of comprehension though since you buy into Zalman's Hyped and overpriced products.
10) Higher bandwidth ram would be nice. Timings don't really make much of a difference. But some PC3700 would let you top out that 3.0 nicely when overclocking.
we agree
11) A-DATA Ram? At least you could narrow down your system's instability pretty quickly.
Prove it. Adata ram with the hynix stick are just awesome. They love voltage and regularly run upwards of 250FSB 1:1 cas 3 not 4 unlike the stuff you'd recommed
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