Stuttering driving me to suicide

lavaheadache · May 15, 2014

see my thread. There are video's in there too. http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2371608

PhIlLy ChEeSe · May 16, 2014

lavaheadache said:
see my thread. There are video's in there too. http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2371608

You gonna make me read the whole thing?

lavaheadache · May 16, 2014

PhIlLy ChEeSe said:
You gonna make me read the whole thing?

considering everything including my fix was in the OP, do as you wish...

New Comer · May 16, 2014

RaulF said:
That's just what i was going to post.

Speaking of the devil.

OP, have your tried an Nvidia card on your system? Maybe borrow one from a friend? If you have your old card that was working fine have you tried it again and see if it goes away?

tried Gtx 770 and the Same Issue even on monitor 120 Hz Stuttering with Vsync off

New Comer · May 16, 2014

PhIlLy ChEeSe said:
You gonna make me read the whole thing?

thanks man

New Comer · May 16, 2014

lavaheadache said:
considering everything including my fix was in the OP, do as you wish...

Thats Great You have solved Your Problem really i am happy for you man , but Unfortunately i have Tried another Motherboard Asrock z77 and the same issue

tell me your monitor in the video 780Ti Stuttering is 60HZ am i Right

New Comer · May 16, 2014

i will inform you guys tomorrow i will replace my Cpu and another Motherboard

UaVaj · May 16, 2014

try disable HPET

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2362109

New Comer · May 16, 2014

PhIlLy ChEeSe said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzGSqsidL30

Open GPU-Z check if your running PCI-e 3, only noticed this on my socket 2011. It will get a few hundred more PFS for people in 3D mark programs, don't think the Z boards suffer this.

it is running @ PCI-e 3 on Gpu-z

New Comer · May 16, 2014

UaVaj said:
try disable HPET

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2362109

i dont know what is hpet and also i dont know how to disable it

my Motherboard is GA-z77x-d3h

New Comer · May 16, 2014

UaVaj said:
try disable HPET

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2362109

i have disablet hpet and noticed just little bit in queryperformanceFrequency from 3.14 to 3.57

also i have tested timertiming with

and i think i have an issue idont know what is this also if you can help me cause i dont understand any thing from these numbers

QueryPerformanceFrequency() freq = 0 3579545

method 0:
QueryPerfCntr..() 100 times
tot: 0 348
avg: 3.480000
avg time: 9.72191e-007
method 0:
QueryPerfCntr..() 500 times
tot: 0 1855
avg: 3.710000
avg time: 1.03644e-006
method 0:
QueryPerfCntr..() 1000 times
tot: 0 3455
avg: 3.455000
avg time: 9.65206e-007
method 0:
QueryPerfCntr..() 10000 times
tot: 0 34999
avg: 3.499900
avg time: 9.7775e-007

method 1:
GetTickCount() 100 times
tot: 0 7
avg: 0.070000
avg time: 1.95556e-008
method 1:
GetTickCount() 500 times
tot: 0 15
avg: 0.030000
avg time: 8.38095e-009
method 1:
GetTickCount() 1000 times
tot: 0 25
avg: 0.025000
avg time: 6.98413e-009
method 1:
GetTickCount() 10000 times
tot: 0 225
avg: 0.022500
avg time: 6.28572e-009

method 2:
TimeGetTime() 100 times
tot: 0 11
avg: 0.110000
avg time: 3.07302e-008
method 2:
TimeGetTime() 500 times
tot: 0 35
avg: 0.070000
avg time: 1.95556e-008
method 2:
TimeGetTime() 1000 times
tot: 0 64
avg: 0.064000
avg time: 1.78794e-008
method 2:
TimeGetTime() 10000 times
tot: 0 600
avg: 0.060000
avg time: 1.67619e-008

method 3:
Pentium internal high-freq cntr() 100 times
tot: 0 8
avg: 0.080000
avg time: 2.23492e-008
method 3:
Pentium internal high-freq cntr() 500 times
tot: 0 26
avg: 0.052000
avg time: 1.4527e-008
method 3:
Pentium internal high-freq cntr() 1000 times
tot: 0 50
avg: 0.050000
avg time: 1.39683e-008
method 3:
Pentium internal high-freq cntr() 10000 times
tot: 0 464
avg: 0.046400
avg time: 1.29625e-008

bononos · May 16, 2014

New Comer said:
i dont know what is hpet and also i dont know how to disable it

my Motherboard is GA-z77x-d3h

I think hpet is enabled by default in the bios for GA mbs, so you'll only need to set 32 or 64bit mode depending on the OS you installed (64bit for 64bit OS). Try 64bit first if you are running a 64bit OS since the default settings seems to work well for most people. The problem starts when hpet is also turned on in the OS using bcdedit and it causes lag/stuttering. To turn off hpet, turn it off in the OS (if you set it on) and in the bios.

It doesn't make sense that you'll have to swap out the cpu/mb just to fix a stuttering problem which wasn't there before a graphics card upgrade. What sort of mouse do you have? Is it wireless? Did you disable mouse pointer precision and set the speed to 6 for windows 7. Win8/8.1 has a mouse stutter problem and needs registry editing to fix so I don't recommend upgrading the OS until you've fixed this under Win7.

Draw some circles and check the smoothness to gauge the lag issue:
http://mousespeed.net/sc2-mouse-optimization

New Comer · May 17, 2014

bononos said:
I think hpet is enabled by default in the bios for GA mbs, so you'll only need to set 32 or 64bit mode depending on the OS you installed (64bit for 64bit OS). Try 64bit first if you are running a 64bit OS since the default settings seems to work well for most people. The problem starts when hpet is also turned on in the OS using bcdedit and it causes lag/stuttering. To turn off hpet, turn it off in the OS (if you set it on) and in the bios.

It doesn't make sense that you'll have to swap out the cpu/mb just to fix a stuttering problem which wasn't there before a graphics card upgrade. What sort of mouse do you have? Is it wireless? Did you disable mouse pointer precision and set the speed to 6 for windows 7. Win8/8.1 has a mouse stutter problem and needs registry editing to fix so I don't recommend upgrading the OS until you've fixed this under Win7.

Draw some circles and check the smoothness to gauge the lag issue:
http://mousespeed.net/sc2-mouse-optimization

i did enable and disable i didnot notice any improvement also no issues with mouse

UaVaj · May 17, 2014

typical default is hardware (bios) on with software (os) off.

to make the difference. you have to match both bios and os.

hardware on + software on
vs
hardware off + hardware off

the improvement was not night and day, however it was apparent and noticeable. so if you are right at the edge of stutter. this may be all that is needed to get you on to the side of smoothness.

Burpo · May 17, 2014

First thing I would try is in Control Panel, Mouse. Pointer settings & change the scheme to (none). Try the game again.

crashtech · May 17, 2014

Sixth step from the left in settings gives 1:1, that is a good default, also disable "enhance precision."

VirtualLarry · May 18, 2014

Tried the bcdedit trick for disabling timer tick coalescing?

Tweak155 · May 20, 2014

Is anything overclocked? Memory / CPU? If so, set them back to default.

TeknoBug · May 20, 2014

Try AMD 14.4 rc1 (beta) rather than 14.4 WHQL, I get slightly more stable performance out of it, and don't use vsync if you're using a 120Hz monitor, don't need it.

And in BF4 you're going to get stutters anyways, that game runs like shit even on an i7 4820.

BrightCandle · May 20, 2014

Still waiting on those frame time graphs.

loccothan · May 20, 2014

Buy CRT Monitor

LCD etc. not for me ;-) I have no tearing/stuttering on My RIG.
Image quality is Awesome, Try Sony 22' 24' on E-Bay ;-) 120-1000$ -> 999$ for Sony 24" Trinitron
Im waiting for OLED 4K Monitors then i will consider Upgrade

New Comer · May 20, 2014

here we go more insanity changed MB and CPU to
Asus Maximus Gene and i7 3770k
didnot overclock
the same result stuttering with all games
and even i tried with 7850 2G my Old GPU which i didnot see any Issue with it , that damn stuttering still exist even with 7850 2G

totally lost out of options what am suppose to do else ////////-////////////

anyway guys if you are following the results after all the tests it is not a Hardware issue
because i have changed every part CPU / GPU / Memory / PSU / HDD / Mouse / Keyboard / os updated / Drivers Updated / MB Bios Updated
even i have tried to test with all old drivers the same issue
also tried with old Bios the same issue
old drivers Before Mantle for GPU / AMD The same issue

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:colbert:

now if you think i am Crazy say whatever you want to say Cause Now I see Stuttering while watching Movies when the Camera Move fast uo / down / right left

Damn it i think it is My Eyes Now :twisted

_O

New Comer · May 20, 2014

BrightCandle said:
Still waiting on those frame time graphs.

ok My Friend you asked for this Before can u tell me how to do it

do you want me to record a video cause i dont understand what do you want

Frame time Graphs is it a report or what

tell me steps and thanks for your Help , Really I appreciate it

New Comer · May 20, 2014

Still working on a Fix and I would love to Thank all The Members here thanks For Your Help , Really I appreciate it Guys

New Comer · May 20, 2014

loccothan said:
Buy CRT Monitor LCD etc. not for me ;-) I have no tearing/stuttering on My RIG.
Image quality is Awesome, Try Sony 22' 24' on E-Bay ;-) 120-1000$ -> 999$ for Sony 24" Trinitron
Im waiting for OLED 4K Monitors then i will consider Upgrade

hahahahahah CRT really You are so Funny Man :biggrin:

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