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"Stupid" is a learning disability.

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notfred

Lifer
I'm tired of all these dumb people claiming that they're really intelligent, except that they have some learning disability. If your disability manifests itself solely through your inability to understand things, follow directions, and pay attention, then I'm sorry but the disability you have is commonly referred to as "stupidity". If you're claiming things like "He's actually very smart, but he's failing all his classes because he has ADD", he's not actually smart. He's stupid. If you want to claim that the specific type of stupidity affecting him is ADD, go ahead and claim that, but he's still stupid.

Stupid is the ultimate learning disability. All these "diseases" and "disabilties" are just subsets and offshoots.

If I see any of you people who were in the "California Insanity" thread complaining about PC BS in here disagreeing with me, I'm calling you a hypocrite. You know that "learning disability" is just a PC term for "not smart".

And yes, I already know I'm mean and insensitive.
 
You're right, the results are the same, but I have more pity for someone who has a medical reason to not be able to learn than a healthy person who doesn't have an excuse.

That said, my uncle is dyslexic, but he learned to deal with it and is incredibly smart. Has patents on machines he made, renovated a house himself, etc.
 
Originally posted by: KingNothing
That said, my uncle is dyslexic, but he learned to deal with it and is incredibly smart. Has patents on machines he made, renovated a house himself, etc.
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Good for him. But, just as an example, if he had failed out of school and got a job at McDonald's and never learned to read, all the while saying "I can't do it cause I'm dyslexic" you could see why "stupid" would be a good description.

Lots of things can be overcome by someone who is intelligent. Those who use them as excuses for thier stupidity really aren't fooling anyone into thinking they're actually smart.
 
Originally posted by: Tyler
Originally posted by: KingNothing
That said, my uncle is dyslexic, but he learned to deal with it and is incredibly smart. Has patents on machines he made, renovated a house himself, etc.
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Good for him. But, just as an example, if he had failed out of school and got a job at McDonald's and never learned to read, all the while saying "I can't do it cause I'm dyslexic" you could see why "stupid" would be a good description.

Lots of things can be overcome by someone who is intelligent. Those who use them as excuses for thier stupidity really aren't fooling anyone into thinking they're actually smart.
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People can be intelligent and have emotional issues that preclude them from "traditional success." I've met a few myself. 🙂

 
Originally posted by: iwearnosox
Originally posted by: Tyler
Originally posted by: KingNothing
That said, my uncle is dyslexic, but he learned to deal with it and is incredibly smart. Has patents on machines he made, renovated a house himself, etc.
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Good for him. But, just as an example, if he had failed out of school and got a job at McDonald's and never learned to read, all the while saying "I can't do it cause I'm dyslexic" you could see why "stupid" would be a good description.

Lots of things can be overcome by someone who is intelligent. Those who use them as excuses for thier stupidity really aren't fooling anyone into thinking they're actually smart.
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People can be intelligent and have emotional issues that preclude them from "traditional success." I've met a few myself. 🙂
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Ok, in that case they're crazy and not stupid.
 
This is what 20 years of political correctness will get you. Hell, the government will even pay you to be stupid, it's called SSI.
 
Originally posted by: Viper GTS
I generally agree with you, but you are WAY off base on this one.

Frankly you're just being an asshole.

Viper GTS
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How am I off base?

Like I said, I know I'm being an asshole.
 
Originally posted by: Tyler
Originally posted by: iwearnosox
Originally posted by: Tyler
Originally posted by: KingNothing
That said, my uncle is dyslexic, but he learned to deal with it and is incredibly smart. Has patents on machines he made, renovated a house himself, etc.
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Good for him. But, just as an example, if he had failed out of school and got a job at McDonald's and never learned to read, all the while saying "I can't do it cause I'm dyslexic" you could see why "stupid" would be a good description.

Lots of things can be overcome by someone who is intelligent. Those who use them as excuses for thier stupidity really aren't fooling anyone into thinking they're actually smart.
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People can be intelligent and have emotional issues that preclude them from "traditional success." I've met a few myself. 🙂
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Ok, in that case they're crazy and not stupid.
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crazy? not necessarily. for example being lazy != being crazy

you are simplifying this issue way too much
 
Originally posted by: iwearnosox
Originally posted by: Tyler
Originally posted by: KingNothing
That said, my uncle is dyslexic, but he learned to deal with it and is incredibly smart. Has patents on machines he made, renovated a house himself, etc.
Click to expand...

Good for him. But, just as an example, if he had failed out of school and got a job at McDonald's and never learned to read, all the while saying "I can't do it cause I'm dyslexic" you could see why "stupid" would be a good description.

Lots of things can be overcome by someone who is intelligent. Those who use them as excuses for thier stupidity really aren't fooling anyone into thinking they're actually smart.
Click to expand...
People can be intelligent and have emotional issues that preclude them from "traditional success." I've met a few myself. 🙂
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The only excuse i'll accept for this is severe schizophrenia or something of that sort.

I've seen so many people drop out of school because they're "Bipolar" or have "chronic depression."

BULL - F'ING - SH!T.

I have severe, chronic, hypercyclic (i.e. depressive episodes as frequent as 2x/month or 1/x DAY) depression, and I have a BA in psychology from USC. I failed a couple courses on the way, sure, but I didn't let that stop me. I fought my disease and I won.

My ex-g/f all but dropped out of college because she's "bipolar." Having known her for 6 years, I can say with all honesty that it's because shes too damn weak to deal with her problems.

Guess what? My dad is as manic-depressive as they come. He had an episode in 1997 lasting for 3 months, where he blew a total of $500,000 of our family's money, and that had to be at least the fourth such episode. Each time we helped him get back on his feet, and he doesn't use it as a crutch or an excuse. He's not stupid.

People who give up because they have some problem are stupid, as Tyler said.
 
Originally posted by: Tyler
Originally posted by: Viper GTS
I generally agree with you, but you are WAY off base on this one.

Frankly you're just being an asshole.

Viper GTS
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How am I off base?

Like I said, I know I'm being an asshole.
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Hey at least he is being upfront about it unlike that notFred guy. 😀



 
How are you off base? Re-read what you said:

You know that "learning disability" is just a PC term for "not smart".

If you'd ever dealt with someone with ADD you would know that is not the case. If you used an example other than ADD perhaps I could agree with you.

There are lots of truly stupid people out there, right now you're acting like one of them.

Viper GTS
 
Originally posted by: Tyler
I'm tired of all these dumb people claiming that they're really intelligent, except that they have some learning disability. If your disability manifests itself solely through your inability to understand things, follow directions, and pay attention, then I'm sorry but the disability you have is commonly referred to as "stupidity". If you're claiming things like "He's actually very smart, but he's failing all his classes because he has ADD", he's not actually smart. He's stupid. If you want to claim that the specific type of stupidity affecting him is ADD, go ahead and claim that, but he's still stupid.

Stupid is the ultimate learning disability. All these "diseases" and "disabilties" are just subsets and offshoots.

If I see any of you people who were in the "California Insanity" thread complaining about PC BS in here disagreeing with me, I'm calling you a hypocrite. You know that "learning disability" is just a PC term for "not smart".

And yes, I already know I'm mean and insensitive.
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hmm not true. I had ADD, and did HORRIBLE HORRIBLE in highschool... didn't even graduate infact. When i was given an IQ test at 18, i scored 137. Eventually when i got into University, i did excellent there, made it to Honor list, etc... because University wasn't as structured, and i could infact learn at my own pace. They didn't even want me in University when i first applied, but i plead my case to the Dean, telling them that i should be eligible for mature student status because i have been out of school for years (while incarcerated)... and the last thing i wanted was to be placed back into the environment that got me in trouble in the first place. They were sympathetic about my case, and allowed me a year probabation. I did so well in the first semester (98% average) that they allowed me full-time student status next semester.

 
There is nothing wrong with your premise per se, but intelligence is somewhat difficult to define. Take for example someone such as Einstein. Many would agree he posses vast intelligence, yet he struggled with basic arithimetic. By your reasoning that would make him stupid, as he did not display success in his school endeavors. Or take for example someone who does very well on shorter assignement and tests but does not have the capacity to concentrate long enough to finish a longer exam. Again by your definition such a person suffers from stupdity, though they may in fact be able to solve problems more effieciantly that a traditional "smart" person ,albeit for only a shorter period of time.

Finally you should also take in to account the very rigid parameters used to measure intelligence and sucess. Today this is mainly done through education, however many people consider monetary wealth as well. What a surprise it must be then to find that many sucessful businesspeolpe and inventors did not always excel in academic pursuits.

By your rather narrow judgment of such people, you preclude many from sucess simply because they do not fit your narrow definition of what sucess is.

Might I add you are hardly being an asshole. You are simply expressing your opinion, an ignornant one perhaps but an opinion just the same. Therefore anyone calling you such terms is far more guilty of what they are accusing you of than you are.
 
Originally posted by: Viper GTS
How are you off base? Re-read what you said:

You know that "learning disability" is just a PC term for "not smart".

If you'd ever dealt with someone with ADD you would know that is not the case. If you used an example other than ADD perhaps I could agree with you.

There are lots of truly stupid people out there, right now you're acting like one of them.

Viper GTS
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I'm not saying someone with ADD is stupid, I'm saying that someone who uses ADD as an excuse to not even try is stupid. I've seen people with ADD do just fine in school and work and whatever they try to do. Actually, they hardly ever mention ADD and they definitely don't think of themselves as disabled.
 
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