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Stunt endorses the Conservative Party of Canada

Stunt

Diamond Member
I have decided to write a small opinion piece on the upcoming Canadian election set for January 23rd.

First I want to thank the Canadian people for listening to what the Conservative Party has to say and not buying into the Liberal fear mongering like last election. The Conservatives started the campaign releasing major policies on a daily basis, setting the tone for an election based on ideas, policies and respect. These policies included a tax credit for users of transit, GST tax relief, income tax breaks, federal accoutability act, assistance for childcare through tax credits, lower hospital wait times and cracking down on crime.

The conservative party of Canada supports a woman's right to choose, and will support goals outlined by kyoto. This is a stark contrast to the Republican party in the US and should not be compared as such.

Steven Harper is finally connecting with voters and proving to Canadians why they deserve better, and should not have to put up with the lackluster track record of the current Liberal party. They have shown they are a national alternative to the Liberal party, ready to govern and roll out policies mainstream Canadians support and despirately need.

They are the only party who continues to voice a positive and productive message, the polls are a good indicator of the electorate's trust in the drive towards change. When you have our prime minister shunning the US for Kyoto initiatives, when they are closer to their target than we are; this just screams patriotic ignorance and stupidity. Our closest ally and trading partner should not have to put up with the bashing of 3 of Canada's 4 largest political parties. Canadians should not be comparing themselves to the US but looking for the issues that matter to them the most.

Many out there are worried about national unity under a Conservative government; this fear is misguided. It is not the Conservatives that have push Quebec away from Canada, but the Liberal party's scandals, illegal acts and cockiness. The conservatives are at a healthy 13% in the province of Quebec, which is nice to see as Quebecers tend to either vote for or against the liberals through the Bloc. Once Conservative roots are laid in the province (at least one conservative MP will come from Quebec this election), the support will grow much like it did in Ontario (Conservatives had 2 seats in the province merely a couple elections ago, now sitting at a healthy 25 of 100+, and polling in a dead heat).

For those who are skeptical of the Conservative party or wish to debate the issues in a reasonable manner (Harper is scary is not an argument), I'd be happy to.

Most recent poll:

Canada Decided Voters (Tracking ended January 3, 2006)
CP 36%
LIB 33%
NDP 15%
BQ 13%
GP 4%
*17% of Canadians were undecided

In Quebec
BQ 52%
LIB 27%
CP 12%
NDP 6%
GP 3%
*20% of Quebecers were undecided

In Ontario
CP 39%
LIB 38%
NDP 16%
GP 7%
*15% of Ontarians were undecided
 
Still going Liberal. The proof is in the pudding and the Liberals have proven Fiscal Management that have put the Economy on a solid foundation.
 
Originally posted by: sandorski
Still going Liberal. The proof is in the pudding and the Liberals have proven Fiscal Management that have put the Economy on a solid foundation.
What policies did the Liberal party implement to create this "solid foundation"
 
Thanks for not bothering to post any numbers except Quebec and Ontario since they're the only province whose #s really matter. What NB, Alberta, PEI, and everyone else thinks doesn't amount to sh!t, my g/f is a Newfie and she's wondering if she'll even bother to vote for that reason - her vote is cancelled dozens of times over by the hordes of Toronto.
 
Originally posted by: glenn1
Thanks for not bothering to post any numbers except Quebec and Ontario since they're the only province whose #s really matter. What NB, Alberta, PEI, and everyone else thinks doesn't amount to sh!t, my g/f is a Newfie and she's wondering if she'll even bother to vote for that reason - her vote is cancelled dozens of times over by the hordes of Toronto.
Sorry glenn1, the polling report sent out didn't include other provinces.

In all fairness, Quebec and Ontario have the most seats (2/3rds or more) and will be the key battlegrounds.

I lived in BC for 12 years, have relatives in Edmonton AB, Winnipeg MB, and Charlottetown PEI. Trust me though, if i had the data I would have posted them.
 
Sorry glenn1, the polling report sent out didn't include other provinces.

No need to apologize. As you probably realize, I wasn't being entirely sarastic when I said the other provinces "don't matter." It sucks, but that's what happens when 4 greater metropolitan areas have 90% of your population. Although as a yank I don't have a dog in the fight, I think it's the Albertans who get screwed the most and worst in Canada, they're the cash cow the other provinces milk as fast as they can.

 
Originally posted by: FrancesBeansRevenge
Wait, Canada has elections? I thought Saddam ran things from behind that curtain.
I'm confused.

Saddam had elections. How else could 100% of the population enthusiastically endorse his leadership? 😀
 
Originally posted by: Stunt
Originally posted by: sandorski
Still going Liberal. The proof is in the pudding and the Liberals have proven Fiscal Management that have put the Economy on a solid foundation.
What policies did the Liberal party implement to create this "solid foundation"

See other thread. 😉
 
Originally posted by: glenn1
Sorry glenn1, the polling report sent out didn't include other provinces.
No need to apologize. As you probably realize, I wasn't being entirely sarastic when I said the other provinces "don't matter." It sucks, but that's what happens when 4 greater metropolitan areas have 90% of your population. Although as a yank I don't have a dog in the fight, I think it's the Albertans who get screwed the most and worst in Canada, they're the cash cow the other provinces milk as fast as they can.
I agree.

3 "have" provinces are forced to divert money through "equalization payments" to the other 13 "have-not" provinces and territories.

While 90% of the population may live in these metropolitan areas, the number of seats (in effect power) in government is far less than 90%; i estimate as low as 30-40%. Not such a big deal.
 
Originally posted by: FrancesBeansRevenge
Wait, Canada has elections? I thought Saddam ran things from behind that curtain.
I'm confused.


Thanks to those little rascals we found out and drove him away remember

Liberal for the win
 
Originally posted by: FrancesBeansRevenge
Wait, Canada has elections? I thought Saddam ran things from behind that curtain.
I'm confused.

To easy tallying, we raise seal skins tanned to different colours (blue for Conservative, red for Liberal and Orange for NDP) on top of the pole that sits securly on top of our igloos. That way we can count the 30 votes from the comfort of the central igloo, enjoying a big bowl of whale blubber, what aboot that?
 
Originally posted by: sdifox
Originally posted by: FrancesBeansRevenge
Wait, Canada has elections? I thought Saddam ran things from behind that curtain.
I'm confused.

To easy tallying, we raise seal skins tanned to different colours (blue for Conservative, red for Liberal and Orange for NDP) on top of the pole that sits securly on top of our igloos. That way we can count the 30 votes from the comfort of the central igloo, enjoying a big bowl of whale blubber, what aboot that?

I'll tell you what it 's aboot! It's aboot if I catch your Huskies peeing in my fishing hloe one more time, there'll be trouble! :|


😉
 
Here is how Martin appears to shine. . .

A political man named Paul bought a donkey from an old farmer for $100.00. The
farmer agreed to deliver the donkey the next day. When the farmer drove up
the next day, he said, "Sorry son, but I have some bad news...the donkey is
on my truck, but he's dead." Paul replied, "Well then, just give me my
money back." The farmer said, "I Can't do that. I went and spent it
already." Paul said, "OK then, just unload the donkey anyway". The farmer
asked, "What are ya gonna do with him?" Paul said, "I'm going to raffle him
off." To which the farmer exclaimed, "You can't raffle off a dead donkey!"
But Paul, with a big smile on his face, said, "Sure I can. Watch me. I
just won't tell anybody that he's dead."

A month later the farmer met up with Paul and asked, "What happened with
that dead donkey?" Paul said, "I raffled him off. I sold 500 tickets at
two dollars a piece and made a profit of $698.00." Totally amazed, the
farmer asked, "Didn't anyone complain that you had stolen their money
because you lied about the donkey being dead?" And Paul replied, "The only
guy who found out about the donkey being dead was the raffle winner, when
he came to claim his prize. So I gave him his $2 back plus $200 extra,
which is double the going value of a donkey, so he thought I was a great
guy." Paul grew up and eventually became the Prime Minister of Canada, and
no matter how many times he lied or how much money he stole from Canadian
voters, as long as he gave them back some of the stolen money, most of them
thought he was a great guy.

Seriously Martin balanced the books on the back of Medicare which has been sliding in International rankings for a decade now, Emploment insurance and underfunding the Military and other key Federal portfolios
Oh and our taxes have gone up since since the Lieberals have come into power in 92
 
Conservatives surge in Quebec.

Source

"Two new opinion polls suggest the Conservatives stood at 20 per cent and 16 per cent respectively in Quebec, compared with the 8.8 per cent they garnered in last year's election."

"Bourque points to three or four ridings the Tories have a shot at, including Louis-Saint-Laurent where candidate Josee Verner is running again after getting 31 per cent of the votes last year."
 
Originally posted by: desy
Here is how Martin appears to shine. . .

A political man named Paul bought a donkey from an old farmer for $100.00. The
farmer agreed to deliver the donkey the next day. When the farmer drove up
the next day, he said, "Sorry son, but I have some bad news...the donkey is
on my truck, but he's dead." Paul replied, "Well then, just give me my
money back." The farmer said, "I Can't do that. I went and spent it
already." Paul said, "OK then, just unload the donkey anyway". The farmer
asked, "What are ya gonna do with him?" Paul said, "I'm going to raffle him
off." To which the farmer exclaimed, "You can't raffle off a dead donkey!"
But Paul, with a big smile on his face, said, "Sure I can. Watch me. I
just won't tell anybody that he's dead."

A month later the farmer met up with Paul and asked, "What happened with
that dead donkey?" Paul said, "I raffled him off. I sold 500 tickets at
two dollars a piece and made a profit of $698.00." Totally amazed, the
farmer asked, "Didn't anyone complain that you had stolen their money
because you lied about the donkey being dead?" And Paul replied, "The only
guy who found out about the donkey being dead was the raffle winner, when
he came to claim his prize. So I gave him his $2 back plus $200 extra,
which is double the going value of a donkey, so he thought I was a great
guy." Paul grew up and eventually became the Prime Minister of Canada, and
no matter how many times he lied or how much money he stole from Canadian
voters, as long as he gave them back some of the stolen money, most of them
thought he was a great guy.

Seriously Martin balanced the books on the back of Medicare which has been sliding in International rankings for a decade now, Emploment insurance and underfunding the Military and other key Federal portfolios
Oh and our taxes have gone up since since the Lieberals have come into power in 92

Meh, story sucks, but the comments afterwards get a big: DUH

How the hell do you think ridding yourself of a Deficit is done? Lowering Taxes and Increasing Spending?
 
Ridding Deficit: Lowering Spending and allow markets to grow without government involvement.

Or in the case of liberals: Offload costs on provinces, spend more, reap the rewards of Conseravative's NAFTA and record breaking commodity prices in a resource based economy.
 
They didn't bother decreasing the size of gov't, they went though pay equity to pay clerks 2X what the fair market is paying
The were wasting billions on gun registrys, failed helicopter contracts, buying gov't jets at several times the fair market price to help Bombardier, speaking of which forgave them billions in tax credits and on and on and on

?If you have 40 priorities, you don't have any.?

- Prime Minister Paul Martin, CTV Question Period, January 4, 2004

56 PRIORITIES


New Deal for Municipalities and Cities (Toronto Star, May 24, 2004)
"Our new government made it clear that addressing the needs of cities and communities was a very important priority for us."
Healthcare in General (Address to the Empire Club, April 16, 2004)
?Health care is this government's number one priority.?
Healthcare Wait Lists (Leader?s Debate, Ottawa, June 14, 2004)
?My vision of Canada is one of a country where health and the reduction of waiting times are our number one priority.?
Home-care Program (Toronto Star, May 27, 2004)
??You have your priorities, and they are our priorities, and how can we work together,? he said, listing off common priorities like reducing waiting lists and establishing a home-care program.?
Education (New Brunswick Telegraph Journal, January 21, 2004)
"We have two major national priorities in this country, health care and education."
Healthcare and Education in Africa (Toronto Star, November 25, 2004)
"?Canada has a role to play in Africa, and we certainly have a role to play in French-speaking Africa,? he said. ?And we want to do it with governments that really want to succeed, like Burkina Faso. Because their priorities, health and education, are our priorities.?"
Stronger Economy (Toronto Star, September 24, 2003)
?The priorities, I think, are pretty clear: They are health care and education and how do you build a stronger economy.?
Canada?s Role in the World (Globe and Mail, March 5, 2004)
?Health care, education, Canada's role in the world. Those are the priorities of Canadians and they want to see that their government is effectively taking charge and that's what we're doing.?
Environment (Ottawa Citizen, April 7, 2004)
"I also think Canadians share our priorities. I think Canadians feel that health care and education and the environment are the priorities and I will have no difficulty debating any other party leader on those issues."
Western Alienation (National Post, May 8, 2004)
"If Western alienation is as bad then as it is now, I will regard myself as not having succeeded.?
Aboriginal People (Address to the Empire Club, April 16. 2004)
?Five areas we will pursue as overriding priorities. These ? health care, learning, Canada?s aboriginal peoples, our communities large and small, and our role in the world ? are areas in which quite simply we must break new ground.?
Childcare (Toronto Star, July 21, 2004)
?Coming out of Rideau Hall yesterday, the Prime Minister listed five immediate priorities for his new cabinet ranging from health care, child care and a new deal for cities to the environment and native issues.?
Foreign Policy in General (Ottawa Citizen, April 2, 2005)
"I'm just very focused on the issues that concern me, and that's where the concentration comes: health care -- which I've done, the files on child care, cities, aboriginals, foreign policy and the environment. I campaigned on those because I feel very strongly about them. They drive me and I totally drive them."
Protecting the Arctic (CTV News W-Five, December 27, 2004)
?Our foreign policy, making a fundamental difference in terms of manifestation of our sovereignty. Protecting the Arctic. Those are the agenda items that Canadians want to see us deal with. And that's what we're dealing with?.?
Making Parliament Work (Montreal Gazette, August 25, 2005)
"Our priority will be to govern, a Parliament that will work," said Martin, rattling off a list of priorities ranging from cities and the environment to daycare, health and education.?
Equalization (Globe and Mail, November 17, 2004)
?He said the Liberals ran their 2004 election campaign on more resources for health care, equalization, child care, cities and aboriginal people. All of these are the issues that we campaigned on.?
Tax Cuts (Globe and Mail, November 17, 2004)
?And to the extent that tax cuts can be brought within that after those priorities have been met, clearly we will do so.''
Agriculture (Winnipeg Sun, February 9. 2004)
?Martin said health care and agriculture are the top priorities of his government.?
BSE (Windsor Star, January 12, 2004)
"Our priorities are well set out. Certainly beginning with BSE and the whole question about the respect of the Canadian passport, the question of contracts in Iraq and softwood lumber."
Canadian Passports (Windsor Star, January 12, 2004)
"Our priorities are well set out. Certainly beginning with BSE and the whole question about the respect of the Canadian passport, the question of contracts in Iraq and softwood lumber."
Canadian Contracts in Iraq (Windsor Star, January 12, 2004)
"Our priorities are well set out. Certainly beginning with BSE and the whole question about the respect of the Canadian passport, the question of contracts in Iraq and softwood lumber."
Softwood Lumber (Windsor Star, January 12, 2004)
"Our priorities are well set out. Certainly beginning with BSE and the whole question about the respect of the Canadian passport, the question of contracts in Iraq and softwood lumber."
Federal-Provincial Relations (Edmonton Journal, November 16, 2003)
?Martin has promised to make relations with the provinces a ?top priority? of his government.?
Governing (Globe and Mail, April 6, 2004)
"Our priority is to govern."
Clean Water (Toronto Star, January 7, 2004)
?Clean water is a national priority.?
Replacing the Sea Kings (National Post, April 29, 2003)
?I?m saying it?s going to be a priority. I would move on it as quickly as possible.?
Equipment for Canadian Forces in General (Paul Martin Gagetown Speech, April 14, 2004)
?Properly equipping the Forces has been very much the focus of our government.?
AIDS funding (CP Wire, May 14, 2004)
"Martin defended the recent spending spree in Canada and overseas. He said $170 million in funding for AIDS projects in Africa is a priority for all Canadians.?
Affordable Housing (Toronto Star, May 17, 2004)
"It has always been one of my priorities"
Debt Servicing (Speech to the Laval Chamber of Commerce, May 17, 2004)
?Servicing the debt remains a priority.?
Fisheries (Paul Martin Press Release, August 13, 2003)
?Paul Martin says rebuilding fish stocks must be a top priority.?
Third World Poverty and Pandemics (Paul Martin Press Release, June 4, 2004)
?I am confident that we will further mobilize efforts to address poverty and health pandemics in developing countries. These are key priorities for Canada.?
Research and Development (Kitchener-Waterloo Record, October 2, 2004)
?Research is a ?very, very high? priority for his government, the prime minister said, one of its top five priorities.?
Global Terrorism (Ottawa Citizen, November 9, 2004)
?Martin said Canada must fight global terrorism, ?the No. 1 plague,? and must ensure the security of Canadian citizens.?
National Sovereignty (Global National, December 25, 2004)
?Our priorities, our defence priorities are in our country, which is why we've brought in the first national security policy of the country are, in fact, the protection of our coasts, the assurance that our border with the United States is going to be secure so it can be open for trade, and protection of our sovereignty in the Arctic.?
Canada-US Border (CTV News W-Five, December 27, 2004)
?Our priority is the defence of the Arctic. Our Arctic sovereignty. It's the defence of our coast. It's the protection of our open frontier, the border with the United States. That's where I'm going to put our money.?
Intelligence (CSIS) (PMO Release of Martin Statement, February 24, 2005)
?On defence priorities such as those outlined in yesterday?s budget. These include: strengthening the security of our common border, bolstering security at points of entry, reinforcing our coastal and arctic sovereignty, increasing support for intelligence, expanding our armed forces and increasing our capital investment in helicopters, trucks, aircrafts and ships.?
Expanding the Armed Forces (PMO Release of Martin Statement, February 24, 2005)
?On defence priorities such as those outlined in yesterday?s budget. These include: strengthening the security of our common border, bolstering security at points of entry, reinforcing our coastal and arctic sovereignty, increasing support for intelligence, expanding our armed forces and increasing our capital investment in helicopters, trucks, aircrafts and ships.?
Prosperity (Speech to Canadian-China Business Council 2004 Gala Dinner, Toronto, December 6, 2004)
?Our agenda as a government is broad, we are active in many areas, but in everything we do we are guided by one imperative: ensuring that Canadians and their values prosper now and in the future. That is what connects our actions, our priorities, our pursuits: Building prosperity today, enhancing it for tomorrow.?
Improving Jobs (CBC, The National, December 14, 2004)
?What my priorities are, this country has a phenomenal opportunity ahead of it. I am so enthusiastic, so optimistic about what we can do and I want to focus on those priorities. That's why I want to make sure we stay out of deficit. That's why I want to make sure we improve jobs and improve the quality of life in our cities. If you see the difference Canada can make, we've only scratched the surface of what we can do going ahead. It's just that's what we've got to focus on.?
Peace in Sri Lanka (Ottawa Citizen, January 18, 2005)
"Canada's No.1 priority is to see the peace process works and our No. 1 focus here is to see humanitarian aid gets through."
China and India (Toronto Star, January 24, 2005)
?Martin explained the breakneck pace of his journey to meet leaders in this region is a function of the need for Canada to catch up. ?The time to do it is now, not to do it in 10 years from now,? Martin said. ?So if you're asking me is it urgent? Yes, it is urgent. Absolutely, because I don't want to do it when they will have become great powers; I want to do it now.??
Windsor-Detroit Border Crossing (Windsor Star, January 28, 2005)
?Martin stressed the Windsor-Detroit crossing was ?the single most important crossing in Canada? and called it ?the priority.??
Money for Newfoundland (Globe and Mail, February 4, 2005)
"We've established priorities here this morning," he said. "Those are . . . that money has got to get in the hands of Newfoundlanders and Labradoreans.?
Same-sex Marriage (CBC Newsworld, June 16, 2005)
?It?s a priority. We want to get it through.?
Immigration (Montreal Gazette, September 26, 2005)
?Martin told the business audience yesterday that reducing taxes is still high on his list of priorities ? along with a host of other proposals, including a new immigration plan.?
Urban Transit (Kitchener-Waterloo Record, October 13, 2005)
?Martin said his Liberal government considers urban transit ?an absolute priority.?"
Human Rights Concerns with China (CP, September 8, 2005)
?Paul Martin says human rights will be the top priority when he meets with the Chinese president.?
Opportunity to succeed (Kitchener-Waterloo Record, October 29, 2005)
?The No. 1 job for this country's leaders is ?to make sure every single Canadian has an opportunity to succeed,? he said. ?The ability to get a good education, decent health and a chance to fulfil their dreams. Then, if we can say it for Canadians, we can say it for the rest of the world,? he said.?
Peace in Sudan (PMO Press Release, November 9, 2005)
"?Promoting long-term peace throughout Sudan remains a key priority for Canada,? said Prime Minister Martin.?
Prosperity in New Brunswick (New Brunswick Telegraph-Journal, December 7, 2005)
?My only goal as the prime minister is to make sure that, in fact, we do everything we possibly can to make sure New Brunswick does well.?
British Columbia (Vancouver Sun, December 10, 2005)
"The truth of the matter is that British Columbia has been tremendously important to me since I became prime minister."
Banning Handguns (Liberal News Release, http://www.liberal.ca/news_e.aspx?id=1142, December 8, 2005)
?By banning handguns and enforcing a comprehensive policing effort ? driven by the priorities of the provinces and municipalities ? we can get these weapons off our streets and help to stop gun crime.?
Democratic Deficit/House of Commons Reform (Calgary Herald, October 19, 2003)
?We are going to proceed with House of Commons reform as quickly as we can.?
Pacific Gateway (Vancouver Sun, December 10, 2005)
?These are British Columbia issues and I'm making them a priority.?
Transportation Infrastructure (Letter to the Council of the Federation, December 23, 2005)
?I agree with you that transportation infrastructure is another key national priority.?
Paul Martin says, ?If you have 40 priorities you don?t have any.?

He?s right. . .
Or how about Martin's own personal tax evasion?
 
Originally posted by: Stunt
Ridding Deficit: Lowering Spending and allow markets to grow without government involvement.

Or in the case of liberals: Offload costs on provinces, spend more, reap the rewards of Conseravative's NAFTA and record breaking commodity prices in a resource based economy.

Martin was more successful then the: Talk about Deficit, Announce Plan, run into Public Opposition, Nix Plan, Ignore Deficit method used by the previous Conservative Government.

Everyone knew cutting the Deficit was going to be ugly and guess what, it was. 😱

No matter how you "lower spending", you end up "offloading" something to someone. You can't have it both ways.

Wait for the Market? For a Decade we'd have waited for Commodities to Bail us out. You think things are underfunded now, they'd be many times worse under your plan(or lack thereof). There simply was no other way to fix a very serious crisis. Martin and the Liberals were the only ones who had the gonads to implement and stick to it.
 
"It has been suggested that the debt problems of the 1990s are a result of overspending in the 1970s and high interest rates in the 1980s. What evidence is there that the recession of early 1990s also contributed to the problem?"

History my friend, the Liberals created it in the 70's the Conservatives inherited it were uanable to do anything about it because of the GLOBAL recession and high interest rates.
The Martin Liberals got lucky
 
Originally posted by: desy
"It has been suggested that the debt problems of the 1990s are a result of overspending in the 1970s and high interest rates in the 1980s. What evidence is there that the recession of early 1990s also contributed to the problem?"

History my friend, the Liberals created it in the 70's the Conservatives inherited it were uanable to do anything about it because of the GLOBAL recession and high interest rates.
The Martin Liberals got lucky

History yes, but "lucky", No. The Deficit problem was fixed years ahead of the recent spike in Commodity prices. Commodity Prices have merely been a bonus that have made good Fiscal Management all the easier in these times. The Liberals didn't get lucky, they got Busy and now we all reap the rewards of good Fiscal Management.

You could say that Mulroney's Conservatives were "unlucky". On that I'd agree. I fully supported Mulroney and his attempts to bring things under control, but that said he failed, because he blinked in the face of opposition. Martin didn't blink.
 
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