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nf4m

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Yes, it does.

care to take a guess and explain what they were doing standing feet away from the bomb blast area, miraculously surviving unscathed, then subsequently assisting the FBI during the cleanup process? what organization are they with? i've never seen that type of clothing from a law enforcement group.
 
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care to take a guess and explain what they were doing standing feet away from the bomb blast area, miraculously surviving unscathed, then subsequently assisting the FBI during the cleanup process? what organization are they with? i've never seen that type of clothing from a law enforcement group.

With the same backpacks on that they had before? Makes no fucking sense you crackpot.

MODS!!!!
 

Craig234

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At 19 i was a M-60 gunner stationed at howard afb trying not to get shot by the Panamanian army loyal to noriega.

That sounds sad, being in the position where you might have to kill people. A country made out of a corrupt deal to give us a canal. Wonder what Noriega would say if interviewed.
 

preslove

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It's a shame he didn't have a pistol or rifle instead of an iphone.

moh-boston-1_grande.jpg

Are you joking, or are you an idiot? Firing from that window would have lead to the police firing into the window.

The police don't want some asshole with a gun jumping into their firefight.
 

twinrider1

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Hadn't put a ton of thought into my first comment, but ok, let's take a look.

You're 50'-75' away. You're on their flank, in an elevated position, and they're completely distracted.
I don't know how long they were there in front of the SUV. It might have all been over by the time I could have been ready to go. But if the opportunity was there, I think I'd have to try.
 

dabuddha

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Hadn't put a ton of thought into my first comment, but ok, let's take a look.

You're 50'-75' away. You're on their flank, in an elevated position, and they're completely distracted.
I don't know how long they were there in front of the SUV. It might have all been over by the time I could have been ready to go. But if the opportunity was there, I think I'd have to try.

Given the chaos, chances are just as high that you'd end up shooting a cop. Or you'd distract the cops with your shooting which might end up with them getting shot by those assholes.
 

purbeast0

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Hadn't put a ton of thought into my first comment, but ok, let's take a look.

You're 50'-75' away. You're on their flank, in an elevated position, and they're completely distracted.
I don't know how long they were there in front of the SUV. It might have all been over by the time I could have been ready to go. But if the opportunity was there, I think I'd have to try.

yeah, because it's okay for you to just shoot at a criminal who isn't a direct threat to you. it's amazing all of the tough guys here who are making claims they would just shoot this guy from the window of their home 2 or 3 stories up.

I hope I would too, and I hope I wouldn't think about nor take my own safety into consideration. If the cops start shooting me, so be it. I might be die, but I'd want to save lives. If I could I would. I wouldn't give a fuck if the police didn't like it.

Also, anyone seen this picture yet?

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That appears to be Tamerlan Tsarnaev, quite alive and surrendering (see his hands and crossed feet).

make sense since his brother ran over him. he's lying in the middle of the street.
 

Craig234

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Hadn't put a ton of thought into my first comment, but ok, let's take a look.

You're 50'-75' away. You're on their flank, in an elevated position, and they're completely distracted.
I don't know how long they were there in front of the SUV. It might have all been over by the time I could have been ready to go. But if the opportunity was there, I think I'd have to try.

It's not up to you, though. You could correctly be convicted of some sort of manslaughter.
 

spidey07

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It's not up to you, though. You could correctly be convicted of some sort of manslaughter.

Negative.

Many states have self defense laws specifically addressing defense of a 3rd party. Somebody shooting at a cop? Yeah, you're OK to shoot.
 

Craig234

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Negative.

Many states have self defense laws specifically addressing defense of a 3rd party. Somebody shooting at a cop? Yeah, you're OK to shoot.

Depends on their discretion. That reduces their chance of taking the person alive, which is a problem. They also don't want the precedent of the risk you miss and hit them.
 

SphinxnihpS

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yeah, because it's okay for you to just shoot at a criminal who isn't a direct threat to you. it's amazing all of the tough guys here who are making claims they would just shoot this guy from the window of their home 2 or 3 stories up.

Some of us believe that you have a duty to protect people from danger. Not just yourself or your family or your car or your stuff, everyone and their stuff.

Some of us believe that it's a matter for the police. Some of us feel sorry for the people that believe that.

If someone came and started a war in my neighborhood, and I could do something about it, I hope I would.
 

Craig234

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Some of us believe that you have a duty to protect people from danger. Not just yourself or your family or your car or your stuff, everyone and their stuff.

Some of us believe that it's a matter for the police. Some of us feel sorry for the people that believe that.

If someone came and started a war in my neighborhood, and I could do something about it, I hope I would.

Call 911, ask if they want you to shoot.
 

twinrider1

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yeah, because it's okay for you to just shoot at a criminal who isn't a direct threat to you. it's amazing all of the tough guys here who are making claims they would just shoot this guy from the window of their home 2 or 3 stories up...

Yes, it is absolutely ok to shoot someone that is attempting to kill a 3rd party. If they were already shooting at me I wouldn't be standing up to take a shot. But there, with their attention down the street, and me pretty well concealed, I do think I'd shoot. If you were a decent shot, wouldn't you feel obligated to try?
 

Craig234

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Yes, it is absolutely ok to shoot someone that is attempting to kill a 3rd party. If they were already shooting at me I wouldn't be standing up to take a shot. But there, with their attention down the street, and me pretty well concealed, I do think I'd shoot. If you were a decent shot, wouldn't you feel obligated to try?

If it were a criminal killing civilians, or who had the officers at a disadvantage, sure.

But that wasn't the case here. I said, 'call 911 and ask if they want you to shoot'.
 

twinrider1

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No time for that. To me that's like the people with a stuck throttle dialing 911 for help.
 

purbeast0

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Yes, it is absolutely ok to shoot someone that is attempting to kill a 3rd party. If they were already shooting at me I wouldn't be standing up to take a shot. But there, with their attention down the street, and me pretty well concealed, I do think I'd shoot. If you were a decent shot, wouldn't you feel obligated to try?

if you did that, expect to be charged for murder. their goal was to take them alive too i wonder what other charges you could be charged with if you shot and killed them.
 
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