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[zinfamous]

Where in my posts did I say I knew?

seriously? You made some assertions based on the image captured in those milliseconds. Here's your quote, please tell me I don't have to spell out your own inference for you:

Originally Posted by rh71
Someone in defense of them also said they were military / security / event staff. Clearly not that either if they're just standing there with all that going on at ground zero.

Maybe you don't understand the implication of statements like this, maybe you're simply not very good with context; but you are certainly inferring knowledge here. I was asking you what you know about what they are up to, as you seem to know more than this picture tells.

They sure look like trained, calm security or even military to me, getting eyes on the situation and relaying information to whomever they are talking to on the phone...while standing next to a police van.

But apparently they aren't? You seem to know more, so please elaborate.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Oh man all this online internet sleuthing is hilarious. It's like the worse episodes of the Hardy Boys and Nancy Drew.

You're dating yourself. :hmm:

Oh crap, that post wasn't related to the bombing... here come some more infractions.

 

[Printer Bandit]

AN ARREST HAS BEEN MADE

























in the ricin case

 

[pcslookout]

AN ARREST HAS BEEN MADE

























in the ricin case

We know. Old news.

 

[zinfamous]

I'm implicating someone because I said they're clearly not securing or helping anybody out? WHAT? What I'm essentially saying is WTF ARE THEY DOING THERE? And previously I also said they do not look like normal spectators. Why does this mean I know more exactly?

You're a little too gung-ho about innocent until proven guilty when I'm not even saying they're guilty. Are those the magic words for you?

implicate /= infer. and you're missing my point entirely. please do back to my original comment. I'm not attacking you...well, I don't mean to be.

I am saying that you are making the mistake of assuming reality of the moment from a frozen second in time.

and every statement of yours here suggests assumptions of who they are--not normal spectators (I agree, which is why I said they look like staff or security--the phones, looking in another directions, identical gear, the one guy has what looks like some sort of event tag hanging from his jacket zipper).

but, specifically, you did say that they "were not helping." That is what strikes me as particularly odd. So, what were they doing? What would help look like in those milliseconds? Were they scanning the crowd for suspects, gathering information? that cant' be a possibility for you, because that is probably help, no?


it's a general comment--people here are making uninformed assumptions off of photos, the context of which they have no experience in interpreting.

 

[Tweak155]

I'm implicating someone because I said they're clearly not securing or helping anybody out? WHAT? What I'm essentially saying is WTF ARE THEY DOING THERE? And previously I also said they do not look like normal spectators. Why does this mean I know more exactly?

You're a little too gung-ho about innocent until proven guilty when I'm not even saying they're guilty. Are those the magic words for you?

Just so we have the quote again:

Someone in defense of them also said they were military / security / event staff. Clearly not that either if they're just standing there with all that going on at ground zero.

You're stating you know what they are or what they aren't. That's knowing more than what the photo tells you.

It's a stupid point to argue over, but you are making a statement of fact.

 

[Pr0d1gy]

I've done a good deal of searching on the interwebs about this as it seemed odd to have so much military/DHS/Intelligence/etc on the payroll and this still happened and I found out some interesting stuff I posted in other threads, so I figured I would share it here since you folks might not bother muddying your feet in P&N:

http://www.firehouse.com/press_rele...esponse-app-to-be-deployed-at-boston-marathon

Boston EMS is deploying a new, off-the-shelf, lightweight mobile device to enhance their existing ePCR platform in time at the Boston Marathon on April 15.

The application, from SafetyPAD, gives EMS personnel the ability to record patient information quickly. It can be carried into crowds and used to assess patients upon arrival, document in real-time, transmit data to transport units before they arrive, and other features.

Boston EMS will utilize the new Android-based program for bike and gator teams along race route

Notice this article is from the 12th, also notice they have changed the title as evidenced by the first comment:

Why have you changed this article?? Why does it now say it was not a mass casualty device when before, it said: "Boston EMS is deploying a new, off-the-shelf, lightweight mobile device for the first time at the Boston Marathon on April 15. The platform, from SafetyPAD, is intended for use in mass-casualty situations gives EMS personnel the ability to carry into crowds and assess a patient upon arrival, document in realtime, transmit data to transport units before they arrive, and other features."

http://www.local15tv.com/mostpopula...Spotters-on-Roofs/BrirjAzFPUKKN8z6eSDJEA.cspx

University of Mobile’s Cross Country Coach, who was near the finish line of the Boston Marathon when a series of explosions went off, said he thought it was odd there were bomb sniffing dogs at the start and finish lines.
　
"They kept making announcements to the participants do not worry, it's just a training exercise," Coach Ali Stevenson told Local 15.

Stevenson said he saw law enforcement spotters on the roofs at the start of the race. He's been in plenty of marathons in Chicago, D.C., Chicago, London and other major metropolitan areas but has never seen that level of security before.
　
"Evidently, I don't believe they were just having a training exercise," Stevenson said. "I think they must have had some sort of threat or suspicion called in."

CNN reports a state government official said there were no credible threats before the race.

Stevenson had just finished the marathon before the explosions. Stevenson said his wife had been sitting in one of the seating sections where an explosion went off, but thankfully she left her seat and was walking to meet up with him.

"We are just so thankful right now," Stevenson said.

Also, there is this:

Oh, and one more thing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2bYdYQfBE8

Yeah, that just happened.

And the other post:

Look, here are the simple facts...which will probably be ignored or ridiculed like everything else I say but whatever. The truth is that they never needed to ban magazines or register everyone to take the guns away. This would have just made it a little easier for them.

You see, we signed a bill some time ago that basically said that if the UN passed a resolution then our President could sign an Executive Order making it law in this country. So, you see, all the UN has to do is tell all countries to disarm and any President can sign an EO forcefully removing our gun rights.

What this debate has really been, it looks like, is a smoke screen for the Internet Censor bill they are trying to pass. Did you know that the finish line of the Boston Marathon was right at the first Boston Public Library? Did you also know that the BPL was about to launch the Digital Public Library of America, making many great pieces of history available for public consumption and allowing all Americans access to one of the greatest libraries ever available on the internet?

All very interesting stuff I have learned while researching the latest alleged tragedy to befall this country. So, like I said, beware the wolf for it lurks in the shadows. Censoring the internet will be the biggest blow this government could ever land on this country because it will allow them to spoon feed disinformation just like they do in our schools and on TV everyday.

 

[shortylickens]

The bill that says we work with the United Nations is UNDERNEATH our Constitution. UN cannot break our basic law.

 

[shortylickens]

It would be nice if we could keep the conspiracy theories out of here and stick to intelligent discussions about the facts.

It's pathetic to me that some people take pictures of an injured soldier and try to tell us that it's the same person (when it's clearly not even close). Incredibly disrespectful to all involved, but especially the victim and the soldier.

Dont worry.
Everything the mods dont like gets taken out. Moved to a locked thread.

 

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[DrunkenSano]

Whatcho gonna do. Whatcho gonna do when the Internet Cops come for you.

 

[OutHouse]

For the record, janet napolitano failed to do her job and needs to be fired.

 

[Pr0d1gy]

NY Post should be fined millions of dollars for being such a retarded company.




There's figuring out and there's starting a witch hunt, which was exactly what the NY Post article was doing. The Post's top managers should all be jailed.

Nah, they do this everytime. In Newtown, they reported it was Ryan Lanza for awhile right after it happened and posted his FB and pic all over the place. Of course, we all know it was actually Adam, even though he died the day before the shootings according to his death cert.

This kind of stuff happens. What do you want them jailed for?

 

[rcpratt]

Nah, they do this everytime. In Newtown, they reported it was Ryan Lanza for awhile right after it happened and posted his FB and pic all over the place. Of course, we all know it was actually Adam, even though he died the day before the shootings according to his death cert.

This kind of stuff happens. What do you want them jailed for?

Can somebody get this asshat out of this thread?

 

[Pr0d1gy]

There's a difference between internet amateurs and actual companies or business that are making a profit off of bullshit. Heavy fines and even jail sentences may bring some sort of accuracy and confirmation on facts, what news actually should be.

Why do you keep calling for jail time? People make mistakes. Should we put you in jail everytime you misspell a word or release methane gas into the atmosphere when you fart? The whole holier than thou thing went out in the 80's man, we're all human, let it go.

Can somebody get this asshat out of this thread?

So I'm not allowed an opinion? Can you let me know what else I am not allowed to disagree with you about so I can avoid further personal insults and mockery?

 

[Pr0d1gy]

Next, Pr0digy is going to explain to us how Rupert Murdoch's newspapers in London hacking innocent people's cell phones was a noble journalistic endeavor.

Why would that be noble? You don't make any sense at all.

And you have revealed yourself to be a moron. Maybe one day you will be labeled as something incorrectly and your life ruined, then we call just LOL at your predicament.

I have been, multiple times, I got over it.

The very fact that you don't give a shit about innocent people being put through a meat grinder and the media (a rupert murdoch rag, no less) getting away with it is really eye opening. You really do belong on the right.

Oh don't worry, I think they won back my support yesterday:

Of course I give a shit, but I also understand that people make mistakes. Hell, I voted for Obama FFS.

So, ummm, yeah....have a nice day.

 

[Phokus]

Why would that be noble? You don't make any sense at all.




I have been, multiple times, I got over it.



Oh don't worry, I think they won back my support yesterday:

http://www.googlepixel.com/images/ohnoesobama.jpg

Of course I give a shit, but I also understand that people make mistakes. Hell, I voted for Obama FFS.

So, ummm, yeah....have a nice day.

http://i.imgur.com/qegVHk7.jpg

That's not a 'mistake'. That's malicious. Do you remember Richard Jewell at all?

Image tags removed as these are not suspects.
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[Capt Caveman]

http://i.imgur.com/qegVHk7.jpg

That's not a 'mistake'. That's malicious. Do you remember Richard Jewell at all?

The idiot believes Sandy Hook and the Aurora shootings were hoaxes. Retarded, crazy, sick, etc... The internet sucks b/c of people like him.

 

[Craig234]

Why do you keep calling for jail time? People make mistakes. Should we put you in jail everytime you misspell a word or release methane gas into the atmosphere when you fart? The whole holier than thou thing went out in the 80's man, we're all human, let it go.



So I'm not allowed an opinion? Can you let me know what else I am not allowed to disagree with you about so I can avoid further personal insults and mockery?

Well, you are not allowed to disagree with the amount of media coverage, for one thing, or you get an infraction. At least if you compare this issue to other issues' casualties.

 

[CZroe]

First off thanks for truncating my statement, leaving it completely out of context. It is baffling why you're even responding to that.

Did you even read all of what I said?

Yes, and that's the part I wanted to address. It is not out of context for my reply. I didn't refute or address the assumptions.

The News Corp/Rupert Murdoch phone hacking scandal in London.

He owns the company but had nothing to do with the scandal and yet you insist on using his name in every single reference to it. It sounds like you are the one lacking journalistic integrity.

If he knew what they were doing and allowed it, don't you think his other news outlets would have been doing it? It was a very simple "hack." Spoof Caller ID and call the number so the voicemail system lets you in without a PIN. Anyone could do it but only one branch did. They never told Newscorp and Newscorp never approved what that office was doing. If you think they did, then why weren't they all doing it on this side of the pond?

 

[Nintendesert]

The News Corp/Rupert Murdoch phone hacking scandal in London.

I don't think you've mentioned Rupert Murdoch enough.

 

[Tweak155]

Yes, and that's the part I wanted to address. It is not out of context for my reply. I didn't refute or address the assumptions.

Your reply makes no sense as to the actual context of the post quoted. If you're trying to make a different point then you should quote it without reference to me stating it. I was not making any assumption - so either you didn't understand the post or need to re-read it.

 

[CZroe]

Your reply makes no sense as to the actual context of the post quoted. If you're trying to make a different point then you should quote it without reference to me stating it. I was not making any assumption - so either you didn't understand the post or need to re-read it.

Why do you think I needed to respond to your point to answer a question you used to make it? I don't intend to refute your point.

 

[Tweak155]

Why do you think I needed to respond to your point to answer a question you used to make it? I don't intend to refute your point.

I don't think you need to respond to my point. You're the one who chose to quote it, and did so inaccurately. If you wanted to make your own point with the same statement, you shouldn't quote an existing post. It looks like you're responding to that post whether that is your goal or not.