Study Suggests 'Pothead' Stereotype Might Be Real

[TechBoyJK]

Really? Put something in your mouth and set in on fire for me please. Let me know when you get diseased lungs and cancer.

Thank you. ()🙂

FYI, you don't get diseases or lung cancer from smoking pot.

You could huff/puff on the dankest weed day and night for 25 years and you still won't get lung cancer. There's a reason for it too.

Seriously though, at most you get a touch of bronchitis. But to make that go away just stop smoking for a little while.

POT is NOT tobacco. They are not the same. Just because they are both smoked doesn't mean the harms are the same. It's like saying koolaid is as bad as vodka because they're both liquids that you drink.

 

[IGBT]

FYI, you don't get diseases or lung cancer from smoking pot.

You could huff/puff on the dankest weed day and night for 25 years and you still won't get lung cancer. There's a reason for it too.

Seriously though, at most you get a touch of bronchitis. But to make that go away just stop smoking for a little while.

POT is NOT tobacco. They are not the same. Just because they are both smoked doesn't mean the harms are the same. It's like saying koolaid is as bad as vodka because they're both liquids that you drink.

burning any vegetative material results in products of combustion among them benzopyrene..just like tobacco. Dopers don't care so go ahead and huff and puff your dope

http://www.sarnia.com/groups/antidrug/mjmeds/mjcancr.html

An average marijuana cigarette contains 30 nanograms of this carcinogen,(benzopyrene) compared to 21 nanograms in an average tobacco cigarette. (Marijuana and Health, National Academy of Sciences, Institute of Medicine report, 1982.)

Clearly marijuana smoke contains more of the potent carcinogen benzopyrene than tobacco smoke. Furthermore, the technique of smoking marijuana by inhaling deeply and holding the smoke within the lungs presents a chance of much greater exposure than a conventional
tobacco cigarette.

This material has been reviewed and commented on by William M. Bennett, M.D., Professor of Medicine, Division of Nephrology, Clinical Pharmacology and Hypertension at Oregon Health Sciences University, Portland, Oregon. Dr. Bennett, who is listed in "BEST DOCTORS IN AMERICA" states, "The idea of using smoked marijuana containing these carcinogens as medicine, particularly for patients who have suppressed immune systems like those with AIDS, should be unthinkable. Thus, prior to considering marijuana as medicine, one must abide by the old edict, ‘first do no harm’."

 

[BudAshes]

burning any vegetative material results in products of combustion among them benzopyrene..just like tobacco. Dopers don't care so go ahead and huff and puff your dope

http://www.sarnia.com/groups/antidrug/mjmeds/mjcancr.html

An average marijuana cigarette contains 30 nanograms of this carcinogen,(benzopyrene) compared to 21 nanograms in an average tobacco cigarette. (Marijuana and Health, National Academy of Sciences, Institute of Medicine report, 1982.)

Clearly marijuana smoke contains more of the potent carcinogen benzopyrene than tobacco smoke. Furthermore, the technique of smoking marijuana by inhaling deeply and holding the smoke within the lungs presents a chance of much greater exposure than a conventional
tobacco cigarette.

This material has been reviewed and commented on by William M. Bennett, M.D., Professor of Medicine, Division of Nephrology, Clinical Pharmacology and Hypertension at Oregon Health Sciences University, Portland, Oregon. Dr. Bennett, who is listed in "BEST DOCTORS IN AMERICA" states, "The idea of using smoked marijuana containing these carcinogens as medicine, particularly for patients who have suppressed immune systems like those with AIDS, should be unthinkable. Thus, prior to considering marijuana as medicine, one must abide by the old edict, ‘first do no harm’."

Interesting how your anti pot jargon sounds a lot like the global warming arguments. You and Al Gore tight or what?

 

[destrekor]

burning any vegetative material results in products of combustion among them benzopyrene..just like tobacco. Dopers don't care so go ahead and huff and puff your dope

http://www.sarnia.com/groups/antidrug/mjmeds/mjcancr.html

An average marijuana cigarette contains 30 nanograms of this carcinogen,(benzopyrene) compared to 21 nanograms in an average tobacco cigarette. (Marijuana and Health, National Academy of Sciences, Institute of Medicine report, 1982.)

Clearly marijuana smoke contains more of the potent carcinogen benzopyrene than tobacco smoke. Furthermore, the technique of smoking marijuana by inhaling deeply and holding the smoke within the lungs presents a chance of much greater exposure than a conventional
tobacco cigarette.

This material has been reviewed and commented on by William M. Bennett, M.D., Professor of Medicine, Division of Nephrology, Clinical Pharmacology and Hypertension at Oregon Health Sciences University, Portland, Oregon. Dr. Bennett, who is listed in "BEST DOCTORS IN AMERICA" states, "The idea of using smoked marijuana containing these carcinogens as medicine, particularly for patients who have suppressed immune systems like those with AIDS, should be unthinkable. Thus, prior to considering marijuana as medicine, one must abide by the old edict, ‘first do no harm’."

I acknowledge the basic premise as fact, and am glad someone at least brought that to the attention of this thread, as I considered at least posting the basic premise myself. (not looking for a specific study)

That said, more testing need to be done with modern day research. I bet you will see different figures.

Especially considering a full joint of most of today's quality marijuana, found in dispensaries (medical or legal), would contain a few day's worth of therapeutic dosages. And your suggestion of "first do no harm" isn't followed, to the same letter you demand, by any of the pharmaceuticals industry. Most chemicals do similar amounts of damage at dosages above therapeutic, or even do long-term damage simply from normal use. Minimal, but real.
You don't need to get high to reap the medical benefits, just like you don't need to get drunk to reap medical benefits of good alcohol sources (wine, some quality beer). Caffeine can also cause long-term damage yet in moderate dosages might just prolong your life (while doing damage? seems to be what the mixed studies are pointed toward).

And here's the main part about marijuana - smoking, through combustion, may cause ingestion of carcinogens (inhalation of products from combustion of material containing organic chemicals isn't usually advised from a toxicity/safety standpoint, ever, especially at any temperatures that reach the smoke point for fatty acids). The kicker? The other chemicals in marijuana, have this impressive capability of creating an anti-tumorous environment within hormone-controlled organs, and tend to have an ability to attack tumors.
Tobacco smoke is not only filled with carcinogens, as is most smoke ever inhaled or created by man, it's active ingredient, nicotine, is also a demonstrated pro-tumor compound. Nicotine itself is not a carcinogen, but it makes tissues it comes into contact with far more hospitable to carcinogens. THC causes the exact opposite effect.

That is not to say it is perfect, but it is one reason why, even with daily smokers, the actual incidence of cancer in marijuana-only smokers is extremely low. It's actually rather profound, considering everything that is contained in marijuana smoke.


More importantly, smoking is honestly the worst way to consume marijuana, from any point of view. It's the most convenient and cheapest, which is why it's the most common; and traditionally, the only way known (aside from eating) for most of mankind's history.

Those who are either prescribed marijuana, or had it suggested they use it for medicinal purposes, are also strongly encouraged to use vaporizers. There is no combustion in a vaporizer (at least, one that isn't in bad condition or been set to the wrong temp if it can be controlled).
The only way to get carcinogens from marijuana is for it to undergo combustion. No combustion, no carcinogens, and a lungful of happiness.

 

[BudAshes]

I acknowledge the basic premise as fact, and am glad someone at least brought that to the attention of this thread, as I considered at least posting the basic premise myself. (not looking for a specific study)

That said, more testing need to be done with modern day research. I bet you will see different figures.

Especially considering a full joint of most of today's quality marijuana, found in dispensaries (medical or legal), would contain a few day's worth of therapeutic dosages. And your suggestion of "first do no harm" isn't followed, to the same letter you demand, by any of the pharmaceuticals industry. Most chemicals do similar amounts of damage at dosages above therapeutic, or even do long-term damage simply from normal use. Minimal, but real.
You don't need to get high to reap the medical benefits, just like you don't need to get drunk to reap medical benefits of good alcohol sources (wine, some quality beer). Caffeine can also cause long-term damage yet in moderate dosages might just prolong your life (while doing damage? seems to be what the mixed studies are pointed toward).

And here's the main part about marijuana - smoking, through combustion, may cause ingestion of carcinogens (inhalation of products from combustion of material containing organic chemicals isn't usually advised from a toxicity/safety standpoint, ever, especially at any temperatures that reach the smoke point for fatty acids). The kicker? The other chemicals in marijuana, have this impressive capability of creating an anti-tumorous environment within hormone-controlled organs, and tend to have an ability to attack tumors.
Tobacco smoke is not only filled with carcinogens, as is most smoke ever inhaled or created by man, it's active ingredient, nicotine, is also a demonstrated pro-tumor compound. Nicotine itself is not a carcinogen, but it makes tissues it comes into contact with far more hospitable to carcinogens. THC causes the exact opposite effect.

That is not to say it is perfect, but it is one reason why, even with daily smokers, the actual incidence of cancer in marijuana-only smokers is extremely low. It's actually rather profound, considering everything that is contained in marijuana smoke.


More importantly, smoking is honestly the worst way to consume marijuana, from any point of view. It's the most convenient and cheapest, which is why it's the most common; and traditionally, the only way known (aside from eating) for most of mankind's history.

Those who are either prescribed marijuana, or had it suggested they use it for medicinal purposes, are also strongly encouraged to use vaporizers. There is no combustion in a vaporizer (at least, one that isn't in bad condition or been set to the wrong temp if it can be controlled).
The only way to get carcinogens from marijuana is for it to undergo combustion. No combustion, no carcinogens, and a lungful of happiness.

30 year old studies and flagrant use of the word carcinogens are the signs of a regurgitator that hasn't had an original thought in his brain since the 80's and wants to keep it that way. I don't even know him but by one post I can tell Rush Limbaughs hand is up his ass playing him like puppet.

 

[IGBT]

30 year old studies and flagrant use of the word carcinogens are the signs of a regurgitator that hasn't had an original thought in his brain since the 80's and wants to keep it that way. I don't even know him but by one post I can tell Rush Limbaughs hand is up his ass playing him like puppet.

Source Information

1Ana Shen, "Is Marijuana Really Harmless?," The Ledger, January 3, 2005

2Brent A. Moore, PhD, Erik M. Augustson, PhD, MPH, Richard P. Moser, PhD, and Alan J. Budney, PhD, "Respiratory Effects of Marijuana and Tobacco Use in a U.S. Sample," Journal of General Internal Medicine, December 2004

3Steve Boggan, "If cannabis is safe, why am I psychotic?," The Times of London, January 2004

4"Kids and Cannabis," The Times of London, February 2005

5"Cannabis Raises Risk of Pyschosis," BBC News, December 2004

6"White House Drug Czar Launches Campaign to Stop Drugged Driving.” Office of National Drug Control Policy Press Release, November 2002.

7Stephanie Blows, Rebecca Q. Ivers, Jennie Connor, Shanthi Ameratunga, Mark Woodward & Robyn Norton, "Marijuana Use and Car Crash Injury," Addiction, Vol 100, April 2005

8Department of Health and Human Services, Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration, Office of Applied Studies. “Marijuana Use and Delinquent Behaviors and Youths.” The NSDUH Report. 9 January 2004

9Department of Health and Human Services, Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration, Office of Applied Studies, 2001 National Household Survey on Drug Abuse, September 2002

10Marijuana Use Negatively Impacts Teen Learning and Academic Success, Experts Say” PR Newswire. 7 October 2004.

11"Marijuana Affects Brain Long-Term, Study Finds" Reuters, February 7, 2005

12"Marijuana affects blood vessels," BBC News, February 2005


http://www.justthinktwice.com/factsfiction/fiction_marijuana_is_harmless.html

 

[destrekor]

Source Information

1Ana Shen, "Is Marijuana Really Harmless?," The Ledger, January 3, 2005

2Brent A. Moore, PhD, Erik M. Augustson, PhD, MPH, Richard P. Moser, PhD, and Alan J. Budney, PhD, "Respiratory Effects of Marijuana and Tobacco Use in a U.S. Sample," Journal of General Internal Medicine, December 2004

3Steve Boggan, "If cannabis is safe, why am I psychotic?," The Times of London, January 2004

4"Kids and Cannabis," The Times of London, February 2005

5"Cannabis Raises Risk of Pyschosis," BBC News, December 2004

6"White House Drug Czar Launches Campaign to Stop Drugged Driving.” Office of National Drug Control Policy Press Release, November 2002.

7Stephanie Blows, Rebecca Q. Ivers, Jennie Connor, Shanthi Ameratunga, Mark Woodward & Robyn Norton, "Marijuana Use and Car Crash Injury," Addiction, Vol 100, April 2005

8Department of Health and Human Services, Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration, Office of Applied Studies. “Marijuana Use and Delinquent Behaviors and Youths.” The NSDUH Report. 9 January 2004

9Department of Health and Human Services, Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration, Office of Applied Studies, 2001 National Household Survey on Drug Abuse, September 2002

10Marijuana Use Negatively Impacts Teen Learning and Academic Success, Experts Say” PR Newswire. 7 October 2004.

11"Marijuana Affects Brain Long-Term, Study Finds" Reuters, February 7, 2005

12"Marijuana affects blood vessels," BBC News, February 2005


http://www.justthinktwice.com/factsfiction/fiction_marijuana_is_harmless.html

I almost pity you.

 

[OverVolt]

Inhaling any smoke is bad for you, derp.

Stoners have a reputation for a reason.