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Study Suggests 'Pothead' Stereotype Might Be Real

yhelothar

Lifer
http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/...udy-suggests-pothead-stereotype-might-be-real


The idea that pot is harmless is just nonsense. Anybody whose been around more than a few decades have seen the long term effects of constant pot use on friends and family. Even if it is by some miracle the one substance humans can ingest on the planet with no negative physical side effects, its very clear the the anxiety reducing power of THC traps many people in tolerating a life far below their capability.
It is our anxiety, being unsatisfied with what we are compared to what we think we could be, that drives us grow intellectually, emotionally and creatively. Pot just switches that drive off making us content with "whatever." That's why stoners don't cause problems, they just don't care about anything enough to exert enough energy to harm or inconvenience others. They tolerate insults, loss of social status, theft etc because the THC just switches off all the anxiety and anger.
But they are also fine with their lack of personal growth, evolution or creation. They stagnate. Loss a job? Smoke enough pot and you won't care. Have to take a boring, low paying job way below your capability. Smoke enough pot and you won't care. You'll work that job for years and years with no promotion or even hope for advancement. Lose a relationship. Don't care. Never get around to trying that great idea you had? Don't care. Even artist clearly lose their intensity and creativity if you can objectively compare their work before and after.
People who start routine pot smoking in their teens will never be what they could have been. Nothing dramatic will happen but that's rather the problem.
Of course, the stoner is like the alcoholic. Most people who drink aren't alcoholics and most people who smoke pot won't have any serious problems but some people will. The problems are largely personally, at least until it becomes a "disability" that the rest of us have to pay for, but it's not "harmless" by any useful definition.
 
Suggests?

Did these people miss the 60's?

Suggests because it's difficult to prove it conclusively. But let's get real, it's common sense that being a heavy cannabis user would make someone more spaced-out and perform worse on memory tasks. Excessive chronic use of any type of drug is going to have detrimental mental and physical side effects.
 
I'm gonna call bullshit. 'Might' is used because they can't prove anything, with certainty. Just another 'study' to show the evils and harmful effects of pot. Coming on the heels of it being legalized in some places. There's also been studies done on long term smokers who show zero effects of their use over decades. It's funny how different studies have totally different results, depending on the views of those in charge/funding said study.
 
its very clear the the anxiety reducing power of THC traps many people in tolerating a life far below their capability.
When I smoke it actually makes me WAY more anxious, so much that I ended up quitting because of it. I basically freak out when I smoke and I can't relax at all. I wasn't always like this though, it wasn't until I started using very heavily in my late teens.
 
When I smoke it actually makes me WAY more anxious, so much that I ended up quitting because of it. I basically freak out when I smoke and I can't relax at all. I wasn't always like this though, it wasn't until I started using very heavily in my late teens.
Yeah a large part of why I quit nearly a decade ago was because of terrible anxiety and paranoia. I didn't get bad anxiety or paranoia for about a year of regular, sometimes every day or just about, smoking but after that started happening getting high was not nearly as pleasurable as it once was.
 
It turned me into a Jamaican newt!









I got better...


Looks like poor short term memory was the only observable negative trait. Op, you sound pretty wound up, better have a bowl.
 
I've never actually tried pot, but being in music, everyone else around me does it. I can tell you first hand that people who smoke pot regularly are ....dumberer. I've not really seen a lack of motivation except maybe while they are actually stoned at that moment, but yes, they are just...dumber overall. That short term memory loss I suppose turns into long term memory loss, especially when all they are really concerned about is their next high.

I've met some really smart people who smoke it, but they don't smoke it on a regular basis and I think that is the difference.
 
I'm gonna call bullshit.
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There's also been studies done on long term smokers who show zero effects of their use over decades.

You're going to call bullshit? Studies showing "zero effects" of "decades" of use? I'm going to call bullshit.

I've met some really smart people who smoke it, but they don't smoke it on a regular basis and I think that is the difference.

Maybe it's just that "dumber" people tend to be habitual users, rather than habitual use which makes them "dumber?"
 
correlation doesn't imply causation etc.

also regarding legalization I think we should look at the effect on society as a whole.
 
The idea that WoW is harmless is just nonsense. Anybody whose been around more than a few decades have seen the long term effects of constant mmorpg use on friends and family. Even if it is by some miracle the one online game humans can play on the planet with no negative physical side effects, its very clear the the anxiety inducing power of leading raids traps many people in tolerating a life far below their capability.
It is our anxiety, being unsatisfied with what we are compared to what we think we could be, that drives us grow intellectually, emotionally and creatively. WoW just switches that drive on making us content with "whatever." That's why gamers don't cause problems, they just don't care about anything else enough to exert enough energy to harm or inconvenience others. They indulge in insults, loss of social status, theft etc because the WoW just instigates all the anxiety and anger.
But they are also fine with their lack of personal growth, evolution or creation. They stagnate. Loss a job? Play enough WoW and you won't care. Have to take a boring, low paying job way below your capability. Play enough WoW and you won't care. You'll work that job for years and years with no promotion or even hope for advancement. Lose a relationship. Don't care. Never get around to trying that great idea you had? Don't care. Even artist clearly lose their intensity and creativity if you can objectively compare their work before and after.
People who start routine leveling in their teens will never be what they could have been. Nothing dramatic will happen but that's rather the problem.
Of course, the gamer is like the hacker. Most people who hack aren't criminals and most people who play WoW won't have any serious problems but some people will. The problems are largely personally, at least until it becomes a "disability" that the rest of us don't really pay for, but it's not "harmless" by any useful definition.

:hmm:
 
http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/...udy-suggests-pothead-stereotype-might-be-real


The idea that pot is harmless is just nonsense. Anybody whose been around more than a few decades have seen the long term effects of constant pot use on friends and family. Even if it is by some miracle the one substance humans can ingest on the planet with no negative physical side effects, its very clear the the anxiety reducing power of THC traps many people in tolerating a life far below their capability.
It is our anxiety, being unsatisfied with what we are compared to what we think we could be, that drives us grow intellectually, emotionally and creatively. Pot just switches that drive off making us content with "whatever." That's why stoners don't cause problems, they just don't care about anything enough to exert enough energy to harm or inconvenience others. They tolerate insults, loss of social status, theft etc because the THC just switches off all the anxiety and anger.
But they are also fine with their lack of personal growth, evolution or creation. They stagnate. Loss a job? Smoke enough pot and you won't care. Have to take a boring, low paying job way below your capability. Smoke enough pot and you won't care. You'll work that job for years and years with no promotion or even hope for advancement. Lose a relationship. Don't care. Never get around to trying that great idea you had? Don't care. Even artist clearly lose their intensity and creativity if you can objectively compare their work before and after.
People who start routine pot smoking in their teens will never be what they could have been. Nothing dramatic will happen but that's rather the problem.
Of course, the stoner is like the alcoholic. Most people who drink aren't alcoholics and most people who smoke pot won't have any serious problems but some people will. The problems are largely personally, at least until it becomes a "disability" that the rest of us have to pay for, but it's not "harmless" by any useful definition.

why doesn't this apply in equal measure to alcohol, TV, gaming, tabacco smoking, sugar products, etc, etc, etc.

edit: crosspost with last poster; yeah my point exactly.
 
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