Study shows white Americans feel a special anxiety over Hispanic immigrants

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Whites are horrible people...everybody knows this.

White Americans are the scapegoat. Blame whitey!

Disregard the fact that America has a problem with immigration from Mexico and not so much Russia. Petty semantics interfering with an agenda

 

[BoberFett]

The study is not about illegal immigrants.

There are attitudes about immigrants which go beyond the illegal debate.

An unfortunate side effect of the federal government doing almost nothing to stop the tsunami of illegal [primarily Hispanic] immigrants coming to the US.

 

[Jhhnn]

An unfortunate side effect of the federal government doing almost nothing to stop the tsunami of illegal [primarily Hispanic] immigrants coming to the US.

Actually, it's the result of right wing astroturfing to inflame nativist sentiment. It works well when they're out of power, not so hot when there's not somebody to blame of the opposite party occupying the oval office. It's not like they've ever done anything different than their Dem counterparts. Well, other than cut budgets.

 

[Jaskalas]

Russians aren't poised to become 1/4th of our entire population, with widespread homogeneity and super majority control in multiple states.
The illegal immigrant population from our southern border is an issue like none other.

 

[BoberFett]

Actually, it's the result of right wing astroturfing to inflame nativist sentiment. It works well when they're out of power, not so hot when there's not somebody to blame of the opposite party occupying the oval office. It's not like they've ever done anything different than their Dem counterparts. Well, other than cut budgets.

Epic fail, you moron.

When did I say anything about blaming this on Democrats? Both parties are to blame for unfettered illegal immigration, you moron.

 

[Leyawiin]

Russians aren't poised to become 1/4th of our entire population, with widespread homogeneity and super majority control in multiple states.
The illegal immigrant population from our southern border is an issue like none other.

There are dozens of formerly Beaver Cleaver type suburbs all over the L.A. Metro Area that have gone from overwhelmingly white to overwhelmingly Mexican in the space of 30 years. I think that kind of potential rapid demographic change and the proximity to the country of origin (and an inexhaustible supply of immigrants) is what freaks some people out. Its really not "diversity" in the Southwest, California and Texas - its population replacement.

 

[squarecut1]

Russians aren't poised to become 1/4th of our entire population, with widespread homogeneity and super majority control in multiple states.

This part, well, it is the natural course of things. Nothing illegal or morally wrong about it.

The whites, from being non existent, became the overwhelming majority in America. Through dubious methods.

Also unlike that change of demographics, in this case, the power still firmly lies with the whites and will remain so for a very long time. Because that this where all the real wealth is.

 

[glenn1]

The study is not about illegal immigrants.

There are attitudes about immigrants which go beyond the illegal debate.

The study didn't specify either imaginary immigrant was here legally or not, so it's no surprise that people drew logical conclusions about their status. A more interesting test would have specified Mexican who immigrated legally vs. Russian who was illegal. Or three illegal immigrants, one Mexican, one black African, and an Irishman to see how much of the reaction was due to race/ethnicity issues rather than breaking immigration laws.

 

[squarecut1]

I think the bigger issue with the legal and illegal immigration of Hispanics is that you have an ever increasing population of once race, while the power lies with another. That will lead to a lot of social tensions and issues. It may get quite ugly in time.

The minorities that are getting richer (though still nowhere compared to the whites because of all the advantage of inherited land and wealth thru the generations) are the Indians and the Chinese. But they are not interested in political power for the most part. Different kind of culture.

 

[Jhhnn]

Russians aren't poised to become 1/4th of our entire population, with widespread homogeneity and super majority control in multiple states.
The illegal immigrant population from our southern border is an issue like none other.

Hogwash. US population is ~314m, while the number of illegals is estimated to be perhaps 15M, ~5%. Illegals can't vote, either, no matter how desperately you want to think they can. Only the stupidest among them would take the chance.

I'm sure you'll rave on, in any event.

Yes, Hispanics may become a majority in some states. OTOH, Since when does the ethnicity of Americans matter to anybody who's not racist?

 

[Jaskalas]

The study didn't specify either imaginary immigrant was here legally or not, so it's no surprise that people drew logical conclusions about their status. A more interesting test would have specified Mexican who immigrated legally vs. Russian who was illegal. Or three illegal immigrants, one Mexican, one black African, and an Irishman to see how much of the reaction was due to race/ethnicity issues rather than breaking immigration laws.

In that case which one has the most money and/or most valued education / tradeskill?

 

[Victorian Gray]

Actually, they are concerned over Arabs, Africans and Albanians.

I think Russians are pretty low on their xenophobia list.

EDIT: sorry, didn't notice that your were replying to a point about Eastern Europe, not Western.


At least in some countries eastern Europeans in general are seen as an issue

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ntral-London-crackdown-offensive-begging.html

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/dec/21/romanians-bulgarians-immigration-debate

http://www.spiegel.de/international...rants-from-romania-and-bulgaria-a-884760.html

 

[Kadarin]

Aside from the legal vs illegal issue, I think one cause for concern is when the immigrating culture is both foreign and incompatible, and not willing to integrate. In western Europe for example, Islamic immigration is leading to some very serious problems that have only just begun.

 

[Jhhnn]

Epic fail, you moron.

When did I say anything about blaming this on Democrats? Both parties are to blame for unfettered illegal immigration, you moron.

Democrats don't exploit it in nearly the same way, which was what I pointed out.

 

[squarecut1]

Aside from the legal vs illegal issue, I think one cause for concern is when the immigrating culture is both foreign and incompatible, and not willing to integrate.

Can you elaborate? In what ways do people feel that Hispanic or any other culture is not compatible?

 

[Jhhnn]

Aside from the legal vs illegal issue, I think one cause for concern is when the immigrating culture is both foreign and incompatible, and not willing to integrate. In western Europe for example, Islamic immigration is leading to some very serious problems that have only just begun.

Which isn't the case with Hispanic immigrants to this country, at all. They're predominantly Catholic, for starters, and their culture isn't "foreign" to nearly the same degree.

 

[shortylickens]

Study shows Liberals give zero shits about white immigrants.

 

[Cozarkian]

The study is not about illegal immigrants.

There are attitudes about immigrants which go beyond the illegal debate.

If the study isn't about illegal immigrants, it needs to control illegal immigrant status as a variable. To do so, it needs to select immigrants with ethnic backgrounds that have a similar probability of migrating illegally v. legally.

The article failed to do so. Any conclusions regarding opinions of Mexican v. Russian are contaminated by the impact of the opinions regarding illegal v. legal.

I suggest reconducting the study using a Mexican that immigrated illegally and one that immigrated legally. I suspect you would get a similar result, with the legal Mexican being viewed similarly as the Russian and the illegal Mexican being viewed similarly (or worse) than the Mexican.

 

[Svnla]

Repost = http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2394446

Well, not really but similar topic thread.

Legals = si, ILLEGALS = no.