Study Shows Conservatism And Cognitive Ability Are Negatively Correlated

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herm0016

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how do you explain the large number of "conservatives" that are engineers and scientists? or a mostly conservative school ( like Mich. Tech. Univ.) that is one of the highest ranked in sciences and engineering?

I know that a bunch of community college kids and foreigners are a great representation of the general public in the USA. I would love to see a study that takes into account more than a single community college and some foreign students. Maybe look at the engineering depts all over the country?

how did they decide who was a conservative? could this have skewed their results?
 

Phokus

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Originally posted by: herm0016
how do you explain the large number of "conservatives" that are engineers and scientists? or a mostly conservative school ( like Mich. Tech. Univ.) that is one of the highest ranked in sciences and engineering?

I know that a bunch of community college kids and foreigners are a great representation of the general public in the USA. I would love to see a study that takes into account more than a single community college and some foreign students. Maybe look at the engineering depts all over the country?

how did they decide who was a conservative? could this have skewed their results?

Huh. My dad's a research scientist in biomedical engineering at MIT. He's also a democrat. And his entire department is mostly democrats. Based on my anecdotal evidence, i will use your method of drawing conclusions and assume all biomedical engineers are democrats.

Republicans.txt
 

JS80

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: JS80
1254 community college students and 1600 foreign students seeking entry to United States' universities

lol how is that in any way a valid sample?
Step 1: Question the sample size.
Step 2: Accuse institution of liberal bias.
Step 3: Profit?

OK let me do another study, pick 2000 sample from an "urban" neighborhood and see the outcome. :roll:
 

ebaycj

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Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: lupi
if we're posting our email contents, I got something about a russian bride if anyone is interested.

^--- Oh hey, one of the paper's test subjects. But please, tell us how a university research paper is equivalent to an email chain letter.

It follows that conservatives may have difficulties making simple determinations, such as the determination between a statistically backed research paper and an email chain letter. You can't blame them, it's not their fault.
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: herm0016
how do you explain the large number of "conservatives" that are engineers and scientists? or a mostly conservative school ( like Mich. Tech. Univ.) that is one of the highest ranked in sciences and engineering?

I know that a bunch of community college kids and foreigners are a great representation of the general public in the USA. I would love to see a study that takes into account more than a single community college and some foreign students. Maybe look at the engineering depts all over the country?

how did they decide who was a conservative? could this have skewed their results?

Huh. My dad's a research scientist in biomedical engineering at MIT. He's also a democrat. And his entire department is mostly democrats. Based on my anecdotal evidence, i will use your method of drawing conclusions and assume all biomedical engineers are democrats.

Republicans.txt

He should research how his genes produced such a court jester of a kid. Scary to see an MIT professor can have offspring that makes his lab rats look genius.
 

ebaycj

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Originally posted by: dali71
Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: BarrySotero
That is like how the USSR and ChiComs used to accuse people of mental illness when they wouldn't accept Marxism. These people probably also cook up studies about the benefits of gay adoption.

Damn ivory tower elites with their THINKING and their EDUCATION, UGH

*buries head in Intelligent Design book*

Because they could never be wrong about anything, right? I'm sure you were going along with James Watson when he made his controversial remarks back in 2007, since he was a Nobel Prize winning scientist and all.


I would still go along with his CLARIFICATION of said remarks.
Originally said by: James D. Watson
I have always fiercely defended the position that we should base our view of the world on the state of our knowledge, on fact, and not on what we would like it to be. This is why genetics is so important. For it will lead us to answers to many of the big and difficult questions that have troubled people for hundreds, if not thousands, of years. ...Since 1978, when a pail of water was dumped over my Harvard friend E O Wilson for saying that genes influence human behaviour, the assault against human behavioural genetics by wishful thinking has remained vigorous. But irrationality must soon recede ... science is not here to make us feel good. It is to answer questions in the service of knowledge and greater understanding. ...We do not yet adequately understand the way in which the different environments in the world have selected over time the genes which determine our capacity to do different things. The overwhelming desire of society today is to assume that equal powers of reason are a universal heritage of humanity. It may well be. But simply wanting this to be the case is not enough. This is not science. To question this is not to give in to racism. This is not a discussion about superiority or inferiority, it is about seeking to understand differences, about why some of us are great musicians and others great engineers.
 

jpeyton

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Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: JS80
1254 community college students and 1600 foreign students seeking entry to United States' universities

lol how is that in any way a valid sample?
Step 1: Question the sample size.
Step 2: Accuse institution of liberal bias.
Step 3: Profit?

OK let me do another study, pick 2000 sample from an "urban" neighborhood and see the outcome. :roll:
Or just pluck 2000 visitors from the Creationist museum.
 

Phokus

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: herm0016
how do you explain the large number of "conservatives" that are engineers and scientists? or a mostly conservative school ( like Mich. Tech. Univ.) that is one of the highest ranked in sciences and engineering?

I know that a bunch of community college kids and foreigners are a great representation of the general public in the USA. I would love to see a study that takes into account more than a single community college and some foreign students. Maybe look at the engineering depts all over the country?

how did they decide who was a conservative? could this have skewed their results?

Huh. My dad's a research scientist in biomedical engineering at MIT. He's also a democrat. And his entire department is mostly democrats. Based on my anecdotal evidence, i will use your method of drawing conclusions and assume all biomedical engineers are democrats.

Republicans.txt

He should research how his genes produced such a court jester of a kid. Scary to see an MIT professor can have offspring that makes his lab rats look genius.

Sounds like you're pissed off to find out that you're intellectually inferior... jpeyton, i think you destroyed genx's psyche :laugh:
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: herm0016
how do you explain the large number of "conservatives" that are engineers and scientists? or a mostly conservative school ( like Mich. Tech. Univ.) that is one of the highest ranked in sciences and engineering?

I know that a bunch of community college kids and foreigners are a great representation of the general public in the USA. I would love to see a study that takes into account more than a single community college and some foreign students. Maybe look at the engineering depts all over the country?

how did they decide who was a conservative? could this have skewed their results?

Huh. My dad's a research scientist in biomedical engineering at MIT. He's also a democrat. And his entire department is mostly democrats. Based on my anecdotal evidence, i will use your method of drawing conclusions and assume all biomedical engineers are democrats.

Republicans.txt

He should research how his genes produced such a court jester of a kid. Scary to see an MIT professor can have offspring that makes his lab rats look genius.

Sounds like you're pissed off to find out that you're genetically inferior and i'm the son of a principle research scientist at a top university :laugh:

Not exactly. I am surprised somebody so bright can shit out a kid so stupid and devoid of thought.

Sure you werent one of his experiments gone wrong? Nevermind, you'd never know.
 

nageov3t

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Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: BarrySotero
That is like how the USSR and ChiComs used to accuse people of mental illness when they wouldn't accept Marxism. These people probably also cook up studies about the benefits of gay adoption.

Damn ivory tower elites with their THINKING and their EDUCATION, UGH

*buries head in Intelligent Design book*

true story, there are conservatives in the ivy league.
 

BarrySotero

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Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: herm0016
how do you explain the large number of "conservatives" that are engineers and scientists? or a mostly conservative school ( like Mich. Tech. Univ.) that is one of the highest ranked in sciences and engineering?

I know that a bunch of community college kids and foreigners are a great representation of the general public in the USA. I would love to see a study that takes into account more than a single community college and some foreign students. Maybe look at the engineering depts all over the country?

how did they decide who was a conservative? could this have skewed their results?

Huh. My dad's a research scientist in biomedical engineering at MIT. He's also a democrat. And his entire department is mostly democrats. Based on my anecdotal evidence, i will use your method of drawing conclusions and assume all biomedical engineers are democrats.

Republicans.txt


Nothing surprising about a college/uni having a lot of Dems on staff - they love that academic cocoon and like to hire their own - like media . That's a reason colleges are so zany these days. I bet there are lots of pro global warming types too. I know a great gal going to MIT but she's a mess - cutting, purging, meds, hospitals etc. She's a lib and gets emails from Chomsky. She'll probably end up on staff.

Meanwhile - if you look at celebs its easy to see pattern dysfunction as well as their liberalism. I know why that is but know better than to waster time on it.
 

Phokus

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: herm0016
how do you explain the large number of "conservatives" that are engineers and scientists? or a mostly conservative school ( like Mich. Tech. Univ.) that is one of the highest ranked in sciences and engineering?

I know that a bunch of community college kids and foreigners are a great representation of the general public in the USA. I would love to see a study that takes into account more than a single community college and some foreign students. Maybe look at the engineering depts all over the country?

how did they decide who was a conservative? could this have skewed their results?

Huh. My dad's a research scientist in biomedical engineering at MIT. He's also a democrat. And his entire department is mostly democrats. Based on my anecdotal evidence, i will use your method of drawing conclusions and assume all biomedical engineers are democrats.

Republicans.txt

He should research how his genes produced such a court jester of a kid. Scary to see an MIT professor can have offspring that makes his lab rats look genius.

Sounds like you're pissed off to find out that you're genetically inferior and i'm the son of a principle research scientist at a top university :laugh:

Not exactly. I am surprised somebody so bright can shit out a kid so stupid and devoid of thought.

Sure you werent one of his experiments gone wrong? Nevermind, you'd never know.

And yet, i'm still more intelligent than you, by a long shot. Just how bad a state is conservativism in?
 

glenn1

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Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: herm0016
how do you explain the large number of "conservatives" that are engineers and scientists? or a mostly conservative school ( like Mich. Tech. Univ.) that is one of the highest ranked in sciences and engineering?

I know that a bunch of community college kids and foreigners are a great representation of the general public in the USA. I would love to see a study that takes into account more than a single community college and some foreign students. Maybe look at the engineering depts all over the country?

how did they decide who was a conservative? could this have skewed their results?

Huh. My dad's a research scientist in biomedical engineering at MIT. He's also a democrat. And his entire department is mostly democrats. Based on my anecdotal evidence, i will use your method of drawing conclusions and assume all biomedical engineers are democrats.

Republicans.txt

He should research how his genes produced such a court jester of a kid. Scary to see an MIT professor can have offspring that makes his lab rats look genius.

Sounds like you're pissed off to find out that you're genetically inferior and i'm the son of a principle research scientist at a top university :laugh:

Principle or principal? It's so hard for those of us without the liberal smartness to be able to tell which usage is proper in any given context.
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: Phokus

And yet, i'm still more intelligent than you, by a long shot. Just how bad a state is conservativism in?

Sounds like a "Im rubber you are glue" comeback to me. Stick to blatent racebaiting troll threads. It is the best you can do and please dont tarnish your fathers good name by bringing him up again.
 

outriding

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Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: JS80
1254 community college students and 1600 foreign students seeking entry to United States' universities

lol how is that in any way a valid sample?
Step 1: Question the sample size.
Step 2: Accuse institution of liberal bias.
Step 3: Profit?

OK let me do another study, pick 2000 sample from an "urban" neighborhood and see the outcome. :roll:


No just over a 1000 is a can provide a good enough average to make claims. (need to take a stats class to get the fine details)

The question is did the survey cover a wide range of people (eg race, class, gender, and etc) if it did then the number of people in this survey would be good enough to be over 99% accurate.
 

Phokus

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Originally posted by: glenn1
Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: herm0016
how do you explain the large number of "conservatives" that are engineers and scientists? or a mostly conservative school ( like Mich. Tech. Univ.) that is one of the highest ranked in sciences and engineering?

I know that a bunch of community college kids and foreigners are a great representation of the general public in the USA. I would love to see a study that takes into account more than a single community college and some foreign students. Maybe look at the engineering depts all over the country?

how did they decide who was a conservative? could this have skewed their results?

Huh. My dad's a research scientist in biomedical engineering at MIT. He's also a democrat. And his entire department is mostly democrats. Based on my anecdotal evidence, i will use your method of drawing conclusions and assume all biomedical engineers are democrats.

Republicans.txt

He should research how his genes produced such a court jester of a kid. Scary to see an MIT professor can have offspring that makes his lab rats look genius.

Sounds like you're pissed off to find out that you're genetically inferior and i'm the son of a principle research scientist at a top university :laugh:

Principle or principal? It's so hard for those of us without the liberal smartness to be able to tell which usage is proper in any given context.

Well yeah, it's probably hard for you guys to come up with any measure of intelligence other than typos because your cognitive abilities are so low.
 

Phokus

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Phokus

And yet, i'm still more intelligent than you, by a long shot. Just how bad a state is conservativism in?

Sounds like a "Im rubber you are glue" comeback to me. Stick to blatent racebaiting troll threads. It is the best you can do and please dont tarnish your fathers good name by bringing him up again.

No, sounds like you're pissed off because someone finally studied your stupidity, came to a conclusion you don't like and you gotta blow off some steam.

Republicans.pdf
 

cwjerome

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Originally posted by: Dari
Is this supposed to be a serious thread or a clearinghouse for laughter?

Looks like a far left circle jerk that went oral and the only time they come up for air is when they pronounce their superior intelligence.

Good times :laugh:
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Phokus

And yet, i'm still more intelligent than you, by a long shot. Just how bad a state is conservativism in?

Sounds like a "Im rubber you are glue" comeback to me. Stick to blatent racebaiting troll threads. It is the best you can do and please dont tarnish your fathers good name by bringing him up again.

No, sounds like you're pissed off because someone finally studied your stupidity, came to a conclusion you don't like and you gotta blow off some steam.

Republicans.pdf

Studies like these are designed to motivate idiots like you. And as expected you are lapping it up.

It is hard to get pissed over a study so silly.
 

JD50

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Phokus

And yet, i'm still more intelligent than you, by a long shot. Just how bad a state is conservativism in?

Sounds like a "Im rubber you are glue" comeback to me. Stick to blatent racebaiting troll threads. It is the best you can do and please dont tarnish your fathers good name by bringing him up again.

No, sounds like you're pissed off because someone finally studied your stupidity, came to a conclusion you don't like and you gotta blow off some steam.

Republicans.pdf

Studies like these are designed to motivate idiots like you. And as expected you are lapping it up.

It is hard to get pissed over a study so silly.

Yep, typical Phokus, McCowen, jpeyton, etc...

Phokus.txt
 

Phokus

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Phokus

And yet, i'm still more intelligent than you, by a long shot. Just how bad a state is conservativism in?

Sounds like a "Im rubber you are glue" comeback to me. Stick to blatent racebaiting troll threads. It is the best you can do and please dont tarnish your fathers good name by bringing him up again.

No, sounds like you're pissed off because someone finally studied your stupidity, came to a conclusion you don't like and you gotta blow off some steam.

Republicans.pdf

Studies like these are designed to motivate idiots like you. And as expected you are lapping it up.

It is hard to get pissed over a study so silly.

"Heh, there you liberals go again, with your 'studies' and 'learning'. I'll just dismiss this by calling it the product of the liberal ivory tower elite so i don't have to feel bad about my own genetic failing" - Genx87

:laugh: