Study: Risks Remain for Teens Who Pledge Abstinence

DealMonkey

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Are abstinence pledges just an evangelically correct way of saying, "do me in the ass so I can remain a virgin?"

Interesting, very interesting. I guess pledgers also subscribe to the Clintonesque School of Sexual Denial. You can almost hear their indignation at the accusation: "I did NOT have SEXUAL RELATIONS with that girl! .... Because I did her in the a** and then she blew me."

Yeah, that's not going to fly. Okay, so how many of these "abstinence-only education is a dismal failure" studies do we need before Bush yanks his $206 million in funding? Or is his funding a form of "faith based initiative" and we just don't have the faith necessary to wait out the results?

:laugh: puh-lease

Study: Risks Remain for Teens Who Pledge Abstinence

By Ceci Connolly
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, March 18, 2005; 8:05 PM

Teenagers who take virginity pledges -- public declarations to abstain from sex -- are almost as likely to be infected with a sexually transmitted disease as those who never made the pledge, an eight-year study released yesterday found.

Although young people who sign a virginity pledge delay the initiation of sexual activity, marry at younger ages and have fewer sexual partners, they are also less likely to use condoms and more likely to experiment with oral and anal sex, said the researchers from Yale and Columbia universities.


"The sad story is that kids who are trying to preserve their technical virginity are, in some cases, engaging in much riskier behavior," said lead author Peter S. Bearman, a professor at Columbia's Institute for Social and Economic Research and Policy. "From a public health point of view, an abstinence movement that encourages no vaginal sex may inadvertently encourage other forms at sex that are at higher risk of STDs."

The findings are based on the federally funded National Longitudinal Study of Adolescent Health, a survey begun in 1995 that tracked 20,000 young people from high school to young adulthood. At the start of the project, the students were 12 to 18 years old and agreed to detailed, sexually explicit interviews. They were re-interviewed in 1997 and again in 2002, when 11,500 also provided urine samples.

Virginity pledges emerged in the early 1990s based on the theory that young people would remain chaste if they had stronger community support -- or pressure -- to remain abstinent. Programs vary, but in most cases teenagers voluntarily sign a pledge or publicly announce their intention to abstain from sex. Often pledgers receive a pin or ring to symbolize the promise and team up with an "accountability partner."

Since it was founded in 1993, the virginity group True Love Waits claims 2.4 million youths have signed a card stating: "Believing that true love waits, I make a commitment to God, myself, my family, those I date, and my future mate to be sexually pure until the day I enter marriage."

The study, published in the Journal of Adolescent Health, found that 20 percent said they had taken a virginity pledge. Bearman and co-author Hannah Bruckner broke them into two categories -- "inconsistent pledgers" and "consistent pledgers" -- to reflect the fact that some changed their status or their responses between interviews. Among those youngsters, 61 percent of the consistent pledgers and 79 percent of the inconsistent pledgers reported having intercourse before marrying or prior to 2002 interviews.

Almost 7 percent of the students who did not take a pledge were diagnosed with an STD, compared with 6.4 percent of the "inconsistent pledgers" and 4.6 percent of the "consistent pledgers." Bearman said those differences were not "statistically significant," although Robert Rector, who studies domestic policy issues at the conservative Heritage Institute, said he interpreted the data to mean that young people committed to the abstinence pledge were less likely to become infected.

The study did not detect major geographic differences but found that minorities were far more likely to have an STD. About one quarter of African American girls tested positive for at least one STD in 2002.

In terms of high-risk behavior, the raw numbers were small, but the gap was statistically significant, Bearman said. Just 2 percent of youth who never took a pledge said they had had anal or oral sex but not intercourse, compared with 13 percent of "consistent pledgers."

The report sparked an immediate, bitter debate over the wisdom of teaching premarital abstinence.

Deborah Roffman, an educator and author of "Sex and Sensibility: The Thinking Parent's Guide to Talking Sense About Sex," said youths who take virginity pledges are often undereducated about sexual health. "Kids who are engaging in oral sex or anal sex will tell you they are practicing abstinence because they haven't had 'real sex' yet," she said.

Ralph DiClemente, a professor at Emory University's School of Public Health in Atlanta, compared virginity pledges to adults' efforts to make New Year's resolutions.

"I wish it was that easy. We'd all be a lot healthier," he said. "If we can't do it as adults, why would we expect kids to be able to handle those issues?"

But Joe S. McIlhaney Jr., chairman of the Medical Institute for Sexual Health, said the study offers an incomplete picture because it could not say whether sexually active teens who did not take a pledge had been pregnant or treated for an STD before the 2002 testing. The analysis "doesn't prove or disprove" assertions that virginity pledges are flawed, he said.

"Not only do virginity pledges not work to keep our young people safe, they are causing harm by undermining condom use, contraception and medical treatment," said Bill Smith, public policy vice president for the Sexuality Information and Education Council of the United States.

Conservative academics said the paper overlooked earlier important findings about adolescents who take virginity pledges, most notably that they have fewer pregnancies and out-of-wedlock births.

"It's hugely successful on those variables," Rector said. "Bearman has focused in on the one variable he thinks can show they [pledgers] don't do better."

President Bush has requested $206 million in federal funding for abstinence-only programs this year.

Several True Love Waits officials were unavailable Friday, according to a receptionist. Telephone calls to another virginity group, the Silver Ring Thing, were not returned.
 

Riprorin

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Not according to this study.


Data from the National Longitudinal Study of Adolescent Health, which is funded by more than 17 federal agencies,[1] show that the behavior of adolescents who have made a vir­ginity pledge is significantly different from that of peers who have not made a pledge. Teenage girls who have taken a virginity pledge are one-third less likely to experience a pregnancy before age 18. Girls who are strong pledgers (defined as those who are consistent in report­ing a virginity pledge in the succeeding waves of the Add Health survey) are more than 50 percent less likely to have a teen pregnancy than are non-pledgers.

Teens who make a virginity pledge are far less likely to be sexually active during high school years. Nearly two-thirds of teens who have never taken a pledge are sexually active before age 18; by contrast, only 30 percent of teens who consistently report having made a pledge become sexually active before age 18.

Teens who have made a virginity pledge have almost half as many lifetime sexual part­ners as non-pledgers have. By the time they reach their early twenties, non-pledgers have had, on average, six different sex partners; pledgers, by contrast, have had three.

Girls who have taken a virginity pledge are one-third less likely to have an out-of-wedlock birth when compared with those who have never taken a pledge. Girls who are strong pledgers (those who are consistent in reporting a virginity pledge in the succeeding waves of the Add Health survey) are half as likely to have an out-of-wedlock birth as are non-pledgers.

Girls who make a virginity pledge also have fewer births overall (both marital and nonmarital) as teens and young adults than do girls who do not make pledges. By the time they reach their early twenties, some 27.2 percent of the young women who have never made a virginity pledge have given birth. By contrast, the overall birth rate of peers who have made a pledge is nearly one-third lower, at 19.8 percent.

Because they are less likely to be sexually active, pledging teens are less likely to engage in unpro­tected sex, especially unprotected nonmarital sex. For example, 28 percent of non-pledging youth reported engaging in unprotected nonmarital sex during the past year, compared with 22 percent of all pledgers and 17 percent of strong pledgers.


Teens Who Make Virginity Pledges Have Substantially Improved Life Outcomes
 

totalcommand

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
Not according to this study.


Data from the National Longitudinal Study of Adolescent Health, which is funded by more than 17 federal agencies,[1] show that the behavior of adolescents who have made a vir­ginity pledge is significantly different from that of peers who have not made a pledge. Teenage girls who have taken a virginity pledge are one-third less likely to experience a pregnancy before age 18. Girls who are strong pledgers (defined as those who are consistent in report­ing a virginity pledge in the succeeding waves of the Add Health survey) are more than 50 percent less likely to have a teen pregnancy than are non-pledgers.

Teens who make a virginity pledge are far less likely to be sexually active during high school years. Nearly two-thirds of teens who have never taken a pledge are sexually active before age 18; by contrast, only 30 percent of teens who consistently report having made a pledge become sexually active before age 18.

Teens who have made a virginity pledge have almost half as many lifetime sexual part­ners as non-pledgers have. By the time they reach their early twenties, non-pledgers have had, on average, six different sex partners; pledgers, by contrast, have had three.

Girls who have taken a virginity pledge are one-third less likely to have an out-of-wedlock birth when compared with those who have never taken a pledge. Girls who are strong pledgers (those who are consistent in reporting a virginity pledge in the succeeding waves of the Add Health survey) are half as likely to have an out-of-wedlock birth as are non-pledgers.

Girls who make a virginity pledge also have fewer births overall (both marital and nonmarital) as teens and young adults than do girls who do not make pledges. By the time they reach their early twenties, some 27.2 percent of the young women who have never made a virginity pledge have given birth. By contrast, the overall birth rate of peers who have made a pledge is nearly one-third lower, at 19.8 percent.

Because they are less likely to be sexually active, pledging teens are less likely to engage in unpro­tected sex, especially unprotected nonmarital sex. For example, 28 percent of non-pledging youth reported engaging in unprotected nonmarital sex during the past year, compared with 22 percent of all pledgers and 17 percent of strong pledgers.


Teens Who Make Virginity Pledges Have Substantially Improved Life Outcomes


Nice try Rip. Your link isn't working on my comp, but nowhere in that survey did they talk about STDs. Promiscuity might be less among abstinence people, but the STD rate is higher.

Wanna know why? Studies have found that teens practicing abstinance do not use condoms once they become sexually active, while those who do not practice abstinance are much more likely to use condoms.
 

DealMonkey

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I don't know about you guys, but I think I need to get myself an "abstinence-only" girlfriend. They sound like a whole mess o' fun! :D
 

totalcommand

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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
I don't know about you guys, but I think I need to get myself an "abstinence-only" girlfriend. They sound like a whole mess o' fun! :D

MmmMMMMmmm STDs. Yum.
 

Riprorin

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Originally posted by: totalcommand
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Not according to this study.


Data from the National Longitudinal Study of Adolescent Health, which is funded by more than 17 federal agencies,[1] show that the behavior of adolescents who have made a vir­ginity pledge is significantly different from that of peers who have not made a pledge. Teenage girls who have taken a virginity pledge are one-third less likely to experience a pregnancy before age 18. Girls who are strong pledgers (defined as those who are consistent in report­ing a virginity pledge in the succeeding waves of the Add Health survey) are more than 50 percent less likely to have a teen pregnancy than are non-pledgers.

Teens who make a virginity pledge are far less likely to be sexually active during high school years. Nearly two-thirds of teens who have never taken a pledge are sexually active before age 18; by contrast, only 30 percent of teens who consistently report having made a pledge become sexually active before age 18.

Teens who have made a virginity pledge have almost half as many lifetime sexual part­ners as non-pledgers have. By the time they reach their early twenties, non-pledgers have had, on average, six different sex partners; pledgers, by contrast, have had three.

Girls who have taken a virginity pledge are one-third less likely to have an out-of-wedlock birth when compared with those who have never taken a pledge. Girls who are strong pledgers (those who are consistent in reporting a virginity pledge in the succeeding waves of the Add Health survey) are half as likely to have an out-of-wedlock birth as are non-pledgers.

Girls who make a virginity pledge also have fewer births overall (both marital and nonmarital) as teens and young adults than do girls who do not make pledges. By the time they reach their early twenties, some 27.2 percent of the young women who have never made a virginity pledge have given birth. By contrast, the overall birth rate of peers who have made a pledge is nearly one-third lower, at 19.8 percent.

Because they are less likely to be sexually active, pledging teens are less likely to engage in unpro­tected sex, especially unprotected nonmarital sex. For example, 28 percent of non-pledging youth reported engaging in unprotected nonmarital sex during the past year, compared with 22 percent of all pledgers and 17 percent of strong pledgers.


Teens Who Make Virginity Pledges Have Substantially Improved Life Outcomes


Nice try Rip. Your link isn't working on my comp, but nowhere in that survey did they talk about STDs. Promiscuity might be less among abstinence people, but the STD rate is higher.

Wanna know why? Studies have found that teens practicing abstinance do not use condoms once they become sexually active, while those who do not practice abstinance are much more likely to use condoms.

Here's the link:

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totalcommand

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: totalcommand
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Not according to this study.


Data from the National Longitudinal Study of Adolescent Health, which is funded by more than 17 federal agencies,[1] show that the behavior of adolescents who have made a vir­ginity pledge is significantly different from that of peers who have not made a pledge. Teenage girls who have taken a virginity pledge are one-third less likely to experience a pregnancy before age 18. Girls who are strong pledgers (defined as those who are consistent in report­ing a virginity pledge in the succeeding waves of the Add Health survey) are more than 50 percent less likely to have a teen pregnancy than are non-pledgers.

Teens who make a virginity pledge are far less likely to be sexually active during high school years. Nearly two-thirds of teens who have never taken a pledge are sexually active before age 18; by contrast, only 30 percent of teens who consistently report having made a pledge become sexually active before age 18.

Teens who have made a virginity pledge have almost half as many lifetime sexual part­ners as non-pledgers have. By the time they reach their early twenties, non-pledgers have had, on average, six different sex partners; pledgers, by contrast, have had three.

Girls who have taken a virginity pledge are one-third less likely to have an out-of-wedlock birth when compared with those who have never taken a pledge. Girls who are strong pledgers (those who are consistent in reporting a virginity pledge in the succeeding waves of the Add Health survey) are half as likely to have an out-of-wedlock birth as are non-pledgers.

Girls who make a virginity pledge also have fewer births overall (both marital and nonmarital) as teens and young adults than do girls who do not make pledges. By the time they reach their early twenties, some 27.2 percent of the young women who have never made a virginity pledge have given birth. By contrast, the overall birth rate of peers who have made a pledge is nearly one-third lower, at 19.8 percent.

Because they are less likely to be sexually active, pledging teens are less likely to engage in unpro­tected sex, especially unprotected nonmarital sex. For example, 28 percent of non-pledging youth reported engaging in unprotected nonmarital sex during the past year, compared with 22 percent of all pledgers and 17 percent of strong pledgers.


Teens Who Make Virginity Pledges Have Substantially Improved Life Outcomes


Nice try Rip. Your link isn't working on my comp, but nowhere in that survey did they talk about STDs. Promiscuity might be less among abstinence people, but the STD rate is higher.

Wanna know why? Studies have found that teens practicing abstinance do not use condoms once they become sexually active, while those who do not practice abstinance are much more likely to use condoms.

Here's the link:

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Haha, this is done by the conservative Heritage Institute. Completely biased.

Edit: also no mention of STDs...wonder why
 

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zephyrprime

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The articles that Dealmonkey and Riprorin post don't really contradict each other. The Riprorin article doesn't say anything about STDs and alternative sexual practices which are the primary points in Dealmonkey's article. Dealmonkey's article admits that pledgers have less vaginal sex, early pregnacies, and sexual partners so it does not contradict Rip's article.
 

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Originally posted by: zephyrprime
The articles that Dealmonkey and Riprorin post don't really contradict each other. The Riprorin article doesn't say anything about STDs and alternative sexual practices which are the primary points in Dealmonkey's article. Dealmonkey's article admits that pledgers have less vaginal sex, early pregnacies, and sexual partners so it does not contradict Rip's article.

I don't think Rip actually read Dealmonkey's post or article. He just detected it wasn't in line with his abstinence-only obsession and cut and crapped as usual.
 

Infohawk

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Originally posted by: Tango
It's always amazing to me that something like an "abstinence movement" exists in the year 2005 United States.

Not when you realize there are over a hundred million evangelicals / born agains / nuts in the US.
 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: Tango
It's always amazing to me that something like an "abstinence movement" exists in the year 2005 United States.

Not when you realize there are over a hundred million evangelicals / born agains / nuts in the US.

Heh nice - info has now relegated a huge portion of the population as "nuts". I think they should all have a bullet put in the back of their head, don't you?
 

Infohawk

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Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: Tango
It's always amazing to me that something like an "abstinence movement" exists in the year 2005 United States.

Not when you realize there are over a hundred million evangelicals / born agains / nuts in the US.

Heh nice - info has now relegated a huge portion of the population as "nuts". I think they should all have a bullet put in the back of their head, don't you?

Errr... no. But nice try. Remember, you're the angry one. ;)
 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: Tango
It's always amazing to me that something like an "abstinence movement" exists in the year 2005 United States.

Not when you realize there are over a hundred million evangelicals / born agains / nuts in the US.

Heh nice - info has now relegated a huge portion of the population as "nuts". I think they should all have a bullet put in the back of their head, don't you?

Errr... no. But nice try. Remember, you're the angry one. ;)

Well, what is the solution for the 100 million misguided?
 

DealMonkey

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Originally posted by: alchemize
Heh nice - info has now relegated a huge portion of the population as "nuts". I think they should all have a bullet put in the back of their head, don't you?
That's your solution for everything, isn't it?!? ;)
 

Bowfinger

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Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: Tango
It's always amazing to me that something like an "abstinence movement" exists in the year 2005 United States.

Not when you realize there are over a hundred million evangelicals / born agains / nuts in the US.

Heh nice - info has now relegated a huge portion of the population as "nuts". I think they should all have a bullet put in the back of their head, don't you?

Errr... no. But nice try. Remember, you're the angry one. ;)

Well, what is the solution for the 100 million misguided?
If they keep substituting oral and anal sex for vaginal intercourse, the question will become moot in a few generations.

;)


(Someone may need to explain this to Rip. He doesn't seem to understand how the choice of orifices can affect whether the stork brings a baby or not. :roll: )
 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: alchemize
Heh nice - info has now relegated a huge portion of the population as "nuts". I think they should all have a bullet put in the back of their head, don't you?
That's your solution for everything, isn't it?!? ;)

I'm just waiting for another leftist solution. I guess there are "re-education camps" also right?
 

DealMonkey

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Originally posted by: totalcommand
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
I don't know about you guys, but I think I need to get myself an "abstinence-only" girlfriend. They sound like a whole mess o' fun! :D

MmmMMMMmmm STDs. Yum.

You clearly missed the meaning of my post. Do I need to spell it out for you? :D
 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: totalcommand
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
I don't know about you guys, but I think I need to get myself an "abstinence-only" girlfriend. They sound like a whole mess o' fun! :D

MmmMMMMmmm STDs. Yum.

You clearly missed the meaning of my post. Do I need to spell it out for you? :D

I need an abstinence-only girlfriend also. Not sure how my wife would take that...
 

DealMonkey

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Originally posted by: alchemize
I'm just waiting for another leftist solution. I guess there are "re-education camps" also right?
How about full-spectrum sex ed for kids? No bullets in anyone's heads necessary.
 

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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: totalcommand
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
I don't know about you guys, but I think I need to get myself an "abstinence-only" girlfriend. They sound like a whole mess o' fun! :D

MmmMMMMmmm STDs. Yum.

You clearly missed the meaning of my post. Do I need to spell it out for you? :D

Haha! :D I knew exactly what you meant!