Study of Holocaust mandated for schools in Australia

[RabidMongoose]

Well yes if you add up hundreds of years of colonialism, the British take the cake. But the British were equal oppurtunity butcherers because their King was divine and choosen by God. Humans were vicious savages for most of our history.

The British were very violent and probably the most violent entity to exist in the known universe. Has there been any other organization that has more human blood on its hands than the British? No way.

Anyways, this is a good step for Australia, but they really need mandated racial education, too. It's a very racist country and they need to work on that part.

 

[CanOWorms]

Well yes if you add up hundreds of years of colonialism, the British take the cake. But the British were equal oppurtunity butcherers because their King was divine and choosen by God and could do no wrong. Humans were vicious savages for most of our history. And there are quite a few who still are.

They were not equal opportunity. They specifically targeted particular groups. For example, Winston Churchill is well documented as harboring extreme prejudices, even for his era.

Even during WW2, he orchestrated the genocide of millions.

There's a lot that occurred during that time.

 

[Wreckem]

They were not equal opportunity. They specifically targeted particular groups. For example, Winston Churchill is well documented as harboring extreme prejudices, even for his era.

Even during WW2, he orchestrated the genocide of millions.

There's a lot that occurred during that time.

Yeah, they didnt like the natives. If you were a native of a british colony you were as good as dead. Thats why I said equal oppurtunity. They would colonize and kill natives. Did matter what country, they were going to kill the natives and take their land.

 

[JEDIYoda]

i graduated so long ago i can't even recall if they talked about this in our history class. can't remember much about wwii either. maybe i should have paid attention instead of sticking issues of nintendo power in between my books. and no, there have been tons of holocausts. unless that term has been trademarked already?

Thats ok we all understand!! The Holocaust was never covered in 3rd grade.......so we forgive you for not being able to remember....

 

[NTMBK]

Bullsheit. Pure and bred.

How is a well documented case of the Soviets massacring thousands "bullshit"?

 

[NTMBK]

Has there been any other organization that has more human blood on its hands than the British? No way.

How about the Catholic Church? The Crusades, the Inquisition, the Cathars...

 

[SandEagle]

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Islam needs to be abolished from this planet before peace can be attempted.

and u call me a naziboi and terrist symathizer? lol the irony. hold the mayo, fry cook. shamalamadingdong!

Thats ok we all understand!! The Holocaust was never covered in 3rd grade.......so we forgive you for not being able to remember....

:thumbsup: that actually made me giiggle. thanks poopy!

 

[airdata]

Wouldn't want anybody to question or forget why there's an israeli state.

 

[OBLAMA2009]

http://www.smh.com.au/national/education/study-of-holocaust-mandated-for-schools-20121207-2b10k.html



yeah, that's nice and all. how about teaching kids about other holocausts too? like iraq, armenia, rwanda, shatila, sabrila, detroit?

or how about teaching about the leuchter report?

 

[rudder]

Unfortunately with Federal money to school districts tied to standardized testing results... most of this stuff will become like a 2 minute lesson.

 

[peonyu]

There has only been one Holocaust. There were other holocausts prior to the Holocaust, but those and other events like those are typically referred to as Genocide these days.

Its the Cambodian Genocide, the Darfur Genocide, the Rwanda Genocide, the Bosnian Genocide, the Iraqi Genocide. Etc. Rarely do people call them holocausts these days. None of the rise to the level of the Holocaust. The only thing that rivals/is worse than what the Nazi's did was what the Soviets were doing.

My History professor in college considered anything after the 1950s/early 1960s to be political science material, not history. There are a lot of people that feel the same way.

You are right that they are all genocides. To give a special name to 1 genocide ["holocaust"] implies that the people who were slaughtered in other genocides are somehow "less" worthy of mention...The Armenian genocide is equal to the Jewish genocide of WW2, both groups lost more than half of their population, and both were hunted down for religious and racial reasons. Yet most people will go "huh?" if you mention the Armenian genocide, its just not taught anywhere outside of select colleges.

That implies that either Armenians are not as special as Jews are, OR that the Armenian lobbying power in Washington/Hollywood/theMedia is weak as hell compared to Jewish influence in those areas [and of course they are!].

 

[peonyu]

How about the Catholic Church? The Crusades, the Inquisition, the Cathars...

The Muslim Caliphates probably have more blood on their hands than those 3 combined.

 

[werepossum]

You are right that they are all genocides. To give a special name to 1 genocide ["holocaust"] implies that the people who were slaughtered in other genocides are somehow "less" worthy of mention...The Armenian genocide is equal to the Jewish genocide of WW2, both groups lost more than half of their population, and both were hunted down for religious and racial reasons. Yet most people will go "huh?" if you mention the Armenian genocide, its just not taught anywhere outside of select colleges.

That implies that either Armenians are not as special as Jews are, OR that the Armenian lobbying power in Washington/Hollywood/theMedia is weak as hell compared to Jewish influence in those areas [and of course they are!].

The reason we don't teach the Armenian Genocide is simply; it upsets Muslims, especially Turks, with whom we wish good relations. Sandeagle is correct that this should absolutely be taught; along with the Holocaust, slavery of black Africans, and our own treatment of Native Americans it ranks as one of the worst genocides conducted in modern (i.e. post-Renaissance) times. There is however one difference; at the time, the Armenians did have a homeland, albeit one divided and ruled over. Their experience was very similar to, though for some populations more horrific than, that of the Poles in the latter 19th and most of the 20th century. Jews on the other hand were uniquely vulnerable since they were minorities ethnically and religiously in every land, many of which cooperated enthusiastically with the Nazis.

I also agree with Wreckem that Soviet purges, especially Poland and the Baltic states, should absolutely be covered in any course on World War II and touched on in that section of any twentieth century history course. As should Japanese treatment of the Chinese. And discussion of our own interment (often to financial ruin) of Japanese or ethnically Japanese Americans should also touch on the 49% who were German, Italian, Hungarian, etc.

 

[Skyclad1uhm1]

OP, those weren't related to the Holocaust but were genocides

As well in many countries they dont teach about the Holocaust because radical Islamists get offended, this is a step in the right direction to combat them

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-445979/Teachers-drop-Holocaust-avoid-offending-Muslims.html

*yawn*

http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/holocaust.asp

 

[Lemon law]

I have no problem with Australia teaching about the Holocaust to nine and ten year old students. And Also covering as many other genocides to show just how vicious humans can be with their fellow humans.

But the one thing that should not be wallpapered over in Australia is their treatment of their aboriginal native inhabitants. Not something that rises to a genocidal level, but taking children from their parents in an attempt to repress a culture and history is still an evil that also be taught, remembered, and never repeated.