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Parrotheader

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Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: Parrotheader
My ultimate wishlist item for cars would actually take driving out of the equation completely. I want a fully-automatic autopilot. I'd love nothing more than to hop into the backseat of my car and tell my car to take me to work. Then I could just take a nap, watch TV, play games, whatever.
They have those. They're called busses.

ZV
Buses are for mass transit. Cars are for personal transit. I want the best aspects of both. I'm greedy. :)

And cabs just aren't a viable option for the sprawled out metro areas in most of the US.

 

TallBill

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Originally posted by: bennylong
I save $700 a month by not having a car. Walk to work kicks ass.

Not everyone pays $700 a month for payments/insurance/parking/gas. But yes, if I could wake or bike to work, my wife and I could make do with only one car.
 

Black88GTA

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I still enjoy driving, always have. I think the insane price of gas is keeping many of those who used to drive for fun at home instead.

That fact notwithstanding, I think the new car market somewhat reflects this as well. There were a lot more "fun" cars and a lot fewer SUVs on the market in the early - mid 90s than there have been recently (although this trend has somewhat reversed in the last couple years, thankfully).

The 300ZX TT, Supra TT, RX-7, 3000GT VR-4, Camaro, Firebird, etc. All of which were killed around 1996ish (with the exception of the F-body, which lasted till 2002). Those that were eventually resurrected got a weaksauce replacement (350z = meh, RX-8 = meh^2). Now most of the US market revolves around high-mpg economy plastic sh!tboxes and SUVs :(.
 

JulesMaximus

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Originally posted by: Amplifier
now do that survey amongst corvette owners :)

Do you own a Corvette? I work with a guy who just traded in an '06 Vette coupe because he couldn't stand the fit and finish issues with the car. YMMV.
 

thomsbrain

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i would blame traffic and toyota. no, seriously. you can't argue against their build quality, but they are SO fvcking boring to drive, and SO many people buy them, that you just can't be surprised when increasing numbers of people don't get excited about driving. i wouldn't be excited to drive, either, if my main ride was a toyota. you know it's bad when my gf practically creams herself driving my station wagon because it is so much more fun and engaging than her camry.
 

Black88GTA

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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: Amplifier
now do that survey amongst corvette owners :)

Do you own a Corvette? I work with a guy who just traded in an '06 Vette coupe because he couldn't stand the fit and finish issues with the car. YMMV.

Sounds like he bought the wrong car. You don't get a Corvette for "fit and finish" - most Vette buyers know this. You get a Corvette because there's nothing else anywhere NEAR that price point that can touch the performance. Most people aren't going to spend $45k on a 400hp RWD car and expect the interior to be in the same class as a comparably priced luxury sedan.

I would guess that most Vette owners (who bought the car for the RIGHT reasons) love their car, despite any squeaks / rattles.
 

Golgatha

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Originally posted by: JS80
yup traffic is primary reason, not gas price

I do love my car for the stereo also. That's aftermarket though and I could love it in any vehicle.
 

Golgatha

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Originally posted by: Parrotheader
Originally posted by: SlitheryDee
My car isn't anything special, but making it reliably from point A to point B is good enough for me.
Same here.

When I was a teen and in my early 20s, I loved it a lot more. I used to love going out joyriding for hours. But now that I'm a little older (but not old ;)) and I actually have the funds to purchase a nice car, I could care less about doing so. Just give me a comfortable, useful, reliable vehicle (and one that gets good city mileage - all these car ads now tout highway mileage but most of the US population's driving occurs in more urban environments.)

My ultimate wishlist item for cars would actually take driving out of the equation completely. I want a fully-automatic autopilot. I'd love nothing more than to hop into the backseat of my car and tell my car to take me to work. Then I could just take a nap, watch TV, play games, whatever.


Dude! An extra 1.5 hours worth of naps and free time would be very welcomed here.
 

EyeMWing

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Originally posted by: JS80
yup traffic is primary reason, not gas price

I sat, parked, on a major interstate for two hours today because some moron flipped his towed RV over. blocking both travel lanes, the exit ramp lane, and both shoulders. I still love my car, and I love driving.

Worst thing is that I didn't need to be on the interstate at all - surface streets were actually shorter, but I decided to change things up a bit today.
 

SophalotJack

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Originally posted by: Jamie571
Originally posted by: bennylong
I save $700 a month by not having a car. Walk to work kicks ass.
I wish I could walk to work

You also are saving a couple hundred extra a month by not having a GF or social life!

lol... "what time are you gonna pick me up for the movies, benny?"

"Umm, hold on... let me check the bus routes."
 

jagec

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Originally posted by: thomsbrain
i would blame traffic and toyota. no, seriously. you can't argue against their build quality, but they are SO fvcking boring to drive, and SO many people buy them, that you just can't be surprised when increasing numbers of people don't get excited about driving. i wouldn't be excited to drive, either, if my main ride was a toyota. you know it's bad when my gf practically creams herself driving my station wagon because it is so much more fun and engaging than her camry.

My MR2 is FAR from boring to drive!:|

...but yeah, Camrys are pretty boring.

I love driving, and I love riding my motorcycle...but I certainly love it a lot more once you get OUT of the city and away from all the other cars.
 

Nebor

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Originally posted by: Black88GTA
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: Amplifier
now do that survey amongst corvette owners :)

Do you own a Corvette? I work with a guy who just traded in an '06 Vette coupe because he couldn't stand the fit and finish issues with the car. YMMV.

Sounds like he bought the wrong car. You don't get a Corvette for "fit and finish" - most Vette buyers know this. You get a Corvette because there's nothing else anywhere NEAR that price point that can touch the performance. Most people aren't going to spend $45k on a 400hp RWD car and expect the interior to be in the same class as a comparably priced luxury sedan.

I would guess that most Vette owners (who bought the car for the RIGHT reasons) love their car, despite any squeaks / rattles.

I'm not normally a Jules Maximus fan, but I'm with him on this. It doesn't matter how much the car costs, or what it's for. If they can't put it together properly then it's not a good car. That's a basic building block of a car, finish.

That's like if they put some metal spikes in the drivers seat and said, "Well you still can't beat it for the price!" Or if they used brake lines made of chocolate. You just don't do it. If you're going to build a car, you build it right.
 

Hyperlite

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Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
Ever since I got this Infiniti G35 I've had a love affair with driving. I'm getting rid of it though because I want a 4 cylinder that doesn't cost me a fortune to drive around. I've always been the volunteer when it comes to driving places though so I guess you could say that either I love to drive or I'm a control freak.


do a straight trade for a WRX STi. ha, you thought that G35 was fun to drive...
 

EngenZerO

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whatever... i love driving my car... just this morning as i was going up in my parking garage... i rode my rpms high just to hear my exhaust note... droooool...


Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
Ever since I got this Infiniti G35 I've had a love affair with driving. I'm getting rid of it though because I want a 4 cylinder that doesn't cost me a fortune to drive around. I've always been the volunteer when it comes to driving places though so I guess you could say that either I love to drive or I'm a control freak.


nooooooooooooooooooooooooo don't do it...

Originally posted by: Hyperlite
Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
Ever since I got this Infiniti G35 I've had a love affair with driving. I'm getting rid of it though because I want a 4 cylinder that doesn't cost me a fortune to drive around. I've always been the volunteer when it comes to driving places though so I guess you could say that either I love to drive or I'm a control freak.


do a straight trade for a WRX STi. ha, you thought that G35 was fun to drive...

my g35 is hella fun to dirive!!!
 

PingSpike

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Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: Parrotheader
My ultimate wishlist item for cars would actually take driving out of the equation completely. I want a fully-automatic autopilot. I'd love nothing more than to hop into the backseat of my car and tell my car to take me to work. Then I could just take a nap, watch TV, play games, whatever.
They have those. They're called busses.

ZV

They would be a viable alternative if they went places I actually needed to go and didn't smell of urine.
 

Linflas

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Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: edro
The only driving I like is on a winding country road, no traffic.

Hell, even driving our e250 through the back roads of VA this evening was enjoyable:beer:

Manassas used to be a town on those back country roads I used to drive on. Now even Front Royal is infested with traffic. :( DC sprawl is like a virus that keeps spreading no matter what.
 

Stuxnet

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I really enjoy driving, but only in light traffic. I love to cruise with the windows down and tunes cranked while the sun sets. Any other time and under any other conditions, it fscking blows. Too many dumbass fvckheads on the road.