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Students Hits Teacher

Azraele

Azraele

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A student at the HS here smashed a teacher in the face with her fist when the teacher tried to break up a fight. This was not an accident, it was intentional.

I don't know about anybody else, but when I was in school, it would never have crossed my mind to do that.

The teacher is pressing charges.
 
The total lack of respect for authority is eating this country alive. Children's attitudes towards their parents, teachers, property and most importantly themselves is fraying the societal constitution of the country. It has to stop somewhere but appears to be escalating. All I can do is be the best parent (someday) to my kids.
 
I think you guys are over-reacting to this. Yes, it was intentional. But it was done rashly, not pre-meditated. If you were fighting with someone & somebody came to break you up, chances are you'd hit them too.

Punish her, yes. Assault charges, yes. More than that? I don't think so...

Viper GTS
 
The weird thing is that this teacher taught me English in HS. She's a great teacher, and it's sad that a student would do that to her.
 
That's pretty sad.

What do you guys/gals think of the kid who just shot a bunch of people in school?

How about Lionel Tate?
 
Wow, first the shootings, then I just read dennilfloss' domestic violence incident and now this. You guys and girls here on the board, I hope you are doing your part raising some good kids now or in the future. The world is going down the sh1thole...
 
There are more and more people, of a certain political persuasion, that just have a tough time with authority. They bring their kids up the same way. When the kid causes trouble in school, they side with the kid. They raise them to be rebellious to authority and wonder why chaos reigns.

Somebody has to make examples of the ones that cross the line. You can see it won't be from their politically correct parents. The schools and teachers ought to have more authorization to kick students right out of the class. Send em to a military type school if needed. Make the parents pay for some of the cost to do it. Whatever it takes. It is out of control for sure.
 
I don't know about anybody else, but when I was in school, it would never have crossed my mind to do that.

I have to agree. I would have never thought of laying a hand on a teacher when I was in school. In these times, not only do teachers and faculty have to worry about getting bashed in the face, they also have to worry about getting shot.
 
Ornery, why do you have to turn this into a Democrats vs Republican debate? For goodness sakes if parents aren't concerned with the upbringing of their own kids I'm pretty sure they don't take seriously the support they throw behind any political party. There's absolutely no correlation between whether you are a Democrat or a Republican and whether you are more or less likely to commit a crime. If you can bring up some stats on this I'd love it, but until then, your statement is absolutely baseless. Hrm...you Americans are so partisan😉

-GL
 
when i was in middle and high school, if you were dumb enough to start with a teacher while he was breaking up a fight, he'd kick your ass, and that's the way it should be, they are there to teach kids, not to be their referee's, but if the situation arises, i feel they should be able to deal with it
 
Ornery, that's funny I only know 2 major American parties in power right now - Democrats and Republicans. And ain't it great that all of those people in that thread aren't criminals? Who would've thought with all those nasty Democrats/Republicans in that thread.

Please use logic in your posts. I'm Canadian so obviously neither Democrat nor Republican. But I can pick apart pure speculation. Until I see a 95% confident, statistical analysis that indicates a correlation between a particular political persuasion and being a criminal, I see no reason not to call your statement what it is - pure bunk...pure speculation...baseless.

I honestly don't know why Americans love to throw in these political barbs into arguments; especially when there is no basis for these statements onto which a solid argument can be established.

If you have a scatterplot of some sort showing a correlation on this issue, please bring it up. But I'm tired of seeing all of these Democrats vs. Republican threads. You're all American...the problem is shared by all of you and the solution will have to be undertaken by all of you.

I don't mean to be in your case and it's nothing personal but seriously, what can be achieved by throwing speculative barbs at your opponents when your opponents are your fellow neighbours?

-GL
 
Go back and read that topic with this in mind. That there is a pattern of who thinks the law was too tough and who thought it was proper. I'm still not saying which is which. Figure it out yourself.

Our schools are a mess and the behavior of the kids is a huge issue that needs to be addressed. Look at who usually stands in the way of changing things. Notice I didn't say who. Just take a look at the situation, what it would take to change things, and who prevents the change.

People are "of a certain political persuasion" for a reason. It's an attitude and mindset. It's a Robin Hood mentality. It's OK to steal and break the law if it's from "the establishment", "the rich", "the man" or "big business". You honestly think there's no difference from one political persuasion to the other along those lines? Sure, you bet. Wanna bet the people that thought the OJ verdict was right are of that same political persuasion? Why is that?

What side of the isle is fighting the Bankruptcy Bill right now? Again, it's the big guy against the little guy. Never mind these people are trying to skip out on their debt. It's not their fault. It's NEVER their fault! :|
 
Ornery,

I know where you're going and I'm playing devil's advocate. I looked at that thread and I didn't see a big D or R beside anybody's name. So, it would just be speculation - baseless speculation - on my part that would determine what particular political affiliation a person with a specific opinion had. You see, you can't make these blind leaps of faith. Again, I'm saying that there is no correlation between committing a crime and a particular political affiliation. I don't see what having an opinion on the punishment of a crime has to do with the tendency of one to commit a crime.

And I just finished watching ABC news which was talking on that bankruptcy bill. It is my own opinion that people shouldn't use credit as money-that's-on-the-way. When I use my credit card, the money's already in the bank to pay for it.

Now, perhaps the reason why the Democrats are against it is because MBNA isn't pouring money into their campaign coffers. I've seen enough Democrat politicians pandering to corporations and passing ignorant laws - DMCA specifically - to know that they aren't exactly a white knight on this issue.

Look, I'm sorry to crap on this thread, but let's settle this the fair way: I'm going to setup a poll specifically on the thread you mentioned. I would like to see if there is a correlation between political affiliation and how one would interpret the Tate sentence. I have no doubt that at least one side of your argument will play out - namely that Republicans will applaud the sentence. But I have serious doubts as to whether the corollary to this is true - that Democrats will say the sentence was a horrendous miscarriage of justice.

Last post in this thread...sorry to crap on it!

-GL
 
"I don't know about anybody else, but when I was in school, it would never have crossed my mind to do that."

Me neither. I was brought up better. It's the parent's fault. And the authorities at the schools have their hands tied about what they can and can't do to control students. Any changes that might turn this around would be fought tooth and nail by "certain groups". Groups like the ACLU etc.

I don't know what you expected to come of this topic, but fixing this problem is going to be an up hill battle. The opposition to strong authority is overwhelming!
 
Welcome to the modern world. This type of behavior happens all the time now.

My wife works at a middle school. They have special teachers just for the BD kids. One of the BD teachers recently broke her ankle, but this wasn't school related. Anyway, one of the kids got pissed at her and kicked her twice in her broken ankle. The worst part is that she doesn't have a cast. She didn't want one and was trying to get by without it. What was done about this? Nothing, the same nothing that happens to most kids who assault teachers. This kid was already on "Level 1" and had the cruel punishment of missing out on certain "privledges". So, in other words, he didn't really lose anymore privledges after his attack. Ouch, huh? That will really teach him a lesson, right?

And this is a nice suburban school, this isn't some inner city school.

The teachers have their hands tied. They can't even really defend themselves. They have to just "restrian" the kids until they calm down. Basically, they can only hold the kids down when they get out of control.
 
I just hate it when someone feels sorry for an offender. If she hit the teacher she should be punished more severely than the average fist fight. Teachers are underpaid and they are the backbone of our society, they should be held in the highest regard. Hitting a teacher should not be tolerated at all. Incarcerate that little girl for the max sentence on assault charges. I am not that old, but I do know that if I would have tried something like this, I would rather have gone to jail than have to deal with the consequences my father was going to deal out. Of course that is a major difference today, my family was a normal 2 parent family, that is becoming a rarity today. It almost seems like reverse evolution, since most other primates are raised by the mother only.
 
they ought to allow teachers to punish students like they did back in the early 1900's. I definitely believe in zero tolerance. Ornerys right about our society and how kids are raised these days. It's sad to see how little respect kids have these days.
 
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