student with highest GPA barred from being valedictorian

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actuarial

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I didn't realize Valedictorian was supposed to go to the highest ranked student. We had a separate award for highest ranked (Governor General's Award).

I won the GG award and was not pissed that I wasn't the Valedictorian. The girl who was Valedictorian definitely deserved it, but I doubt she was even in the top 10 graduating averages.
 

shopbruin

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We need to see the selection criteria for valedictorian.

If I recall correctly, at my high school, they recognized anyone that a flat 4.00 (so in this case, her having one B would disqualify her) and from that group, took the highest GPA for the valedictorian. Pretty sure my year, the valedictorian still had the highest GPA out of the entire class.
 

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5. If the lady in question succeeds in suing the school over a title, she is just as reprehensible as the administrators who committed the wrongdoing. She should be forced to look every kindergartener, first grader, and their parents in the eye and tell them "I'm taking money and compromising your education because I think that I, and a title I won't care about in 5 years, are more important than you."

Those titles can be very valuable. They are used by grants and scholarships to determine who is eligible. They are important for getting into top tier universities.
For example, my cousin received a $50,000 grant to attend UT for being the valedictorian of her class. There was only 4 people in her class, her GPA was only 3.8. Mine was higher when I graduated high school and I didn’t even get cum laude. But she got 50 grand and an invite to UT, and I got nothing. Titles have meaning, and a monetary value can be put on them.
 

KentState

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The article is pretty useless as we don't have a definition of what it takes to be a valedictorian in this school or a defense statement from the school as to why they took the action.
 

thraashman

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We need to see the selection criteria for valedictorian.

If I recall correctly, at my high school, they recognized anyone that a flat 4.00 (so in this case, her having one B would disqualify her) and from that group, took the highest GPA for the valedictorian. Pretty sure my year, the valedictorian still had the highest GPA out of the entire class.

Well, that could be different at hers. At my school the Valedictorian graduated with something like a 4.3. Any AP classes taken at my school were weighted with a point higher for everything but F, so an A got a 5. Both the Valedictorian and Saludatorian at my school graduated with never receiving anything but an A, but the Saludatorian was in the school newspaper which took up a class period and left him with one fewer slot to take an AP class. I'm not sure why I remember this 13 years later.
 

tynopik

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Those titles can be very valuable. They are used by grants and scholarships to determine who is eligible. They are important for getting into top tier universities . . . Titles have meaning, and a monetary value can be put on them.

But she still has the title, so she hasn't lost anything.

Presumably she's suing to keep anyone ELSE from ALSO getting the title.
 

Tsaico

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But she still has the title, so she hasn't lost anything.

Presumably she's suing to keep anyone ELSE from ALSO getting the title.

I do not believe she was recognized at all, the article says she was barred from being named the title. Her lawsuit does seek to strip away the title from the other two though. Also, in my school, she wouldn't have been at the school at all, as a mother, she would have been defined as an "adult" by the school district and sent to the "Adult" school with the other miscreants trying to earn GEDs. What seems unfair is the fathers of these teen pregnancies get to stay in the high school they are attending.

I also think, they should have made an exception on the appeal though and let her make her case, I hate those kind of technicalities for such small issues as this.
 

Eos

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I do not believe she was recognized at all, the article says she was barred from being named the title. Her lawsuit does seek to strip away the title from the other two though. Also, in my school, she wouldn't have been at the school at all, as a mother, she would have been defined as an "adult" by the school district and sent to the "Adult" school with the other miscreants trying to earn GEDs. What seems unfair is the fathers of these teen pregnancies get to stay in the high school they are attending.

I also think, they should have made an exception on the appeal though and let her make her case, I hate those kind of technicalities for such small issues as this.

You know who the father is? It's possible she was raped and a pregnancy was the result. It she still a miscreant then?
 
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The school is 46% black so I am having a hard time believing the school would discriminate against her based on color. For all the high schools I have known, its more than just gpa to be valedectorian.

the principal is also black, reportedly.
 

sactoking

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Those titles can be very valuable. They are used by grants and scholarships to determine who is eligible. They are important for getting into top tier universities.
For example, my cousin received a $50,000 grant to attend UT for being the valedictorian of her class. There was only 4 people in her class, her GPA was only 3.8. Mine was higher when I graduated high school and I didn’t even get cum laude. But she got 50 grand and an invite to UT, and I got nothing. Titles have meaning, and a monetary value can be put on them.

Your experience differs greatly from mine. No school I ever encountered recognized "valedictorians" because not only were the criteria for being named such so disparate but the competition was so diverse.
 

OlafSicky

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Same thing happened to a friend of mine. Valedictorian is not about highest GPA but popularity + GPA. He didn't have any school sports or activities so they didn't pick him. He did get the science award but everybody was like who is that guy lol.