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Student suspended over call from mom in Iraq

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I think the correct thing to do would be to walk out of the classroom, out of the school to take the call. Then you take it up with the administration if they want to punish you for "cutting" class.
 
I think you will find that most who serve or served would say he should have gotten a rightous ass kicking for a foul mouth. Since that can't be done, a suspension is in order. "Mr. Special" can wank it in a corner at home for all I care.
 
The kid was most likely being an arsehole and deserved what he got. I have a hard time believing that if a kid was polite and left the area that he'd get in trouble in this situation...

 
Originally posted by: TechnoPro
I guess I grew up in the stone age where teenagers swearing and acting defiantly would bring on a detention at most, let alone a suspension for 10 days. As for the idiot by-the-book administrators who fail to see the direct corelation between the emotions involved in the situation and his subsequent behavior, they are entirely ill equipped to be dealing with adolescents.
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Where you there, or are you totally making ASSumptions?
 
Originally posted by: PhasmatisNox
I hadn't thought about that. I wouldn't put it past most students today to try something like that.
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Some students will tell you ANYTHING if they think you will let them get away with something. The teacher really has no other recourse. This is just one of those situations where you are damned if you do and damned if you don't.

If the teacher let him talk on the phone, next thing you know it seems like EVERY student has an immediate relative serving in Iraq calling during lunch period.
 
Georgia public schools...making the rest of America feel good about themselves since 1815.

Boortz was talking on the radio the other day about a teacher in Gwinnet County , Georgia who was suspended because he wouldn't change a football players grade....reason given insubordination.
 
if i was the teacher i would have said "oh, i talked to your mom last night, shes fiiine."

of course then i would probably get suspended/fired.
 
Originally posted by: Lorax
if i was the teacher i would have said "oh, i talked to your mom last night, shes fiiine."

of course then i would probably get suspended/fired.
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More like assaulted
 
Originally posted by: KK
It would depend on how the situation went down. If the teacher forced him to hang up, then I could see his point. If he stayed on the phone and finished his call and then was told to go to the office and then he flipped out, then 10 days sounds about right. It sounds like this kid did have a temper problem. The article's too vague on the incident to form an opinion.
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Agree - all depends on how it went down. Not enough information.
 
It was during LUNCHTIME. I think the teacher should have ignored it or at least let it go after he said it was his mom, in Iraq.
 
I think we're just all being overly sensitive with iraq. If the same thing happened to me but i was talking on the phone long distance with my mom in Taiwan, I doubt we'd even be talking about it.
 
Originally posted by: bigj3347
I think we're just all being overly sensitive with iraq. If the same thing happened to me but i was talking on the phone long distance with my mom in Taiwan, I doubt we'd even be talking about it.
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Is your mom in the military in a war torn country?
 
Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend
I would have been defiant and disorderly as well. Hell, I've done it before when teachers tried to interrupt an important event in my life. When he said "this is my mom in Iraq" the teacher should have let it go. She/He deserved ever bit of defiance for being an emotionless prick.
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Then you deserve what you get. You go to school to get an education. No other reason. Don't like it and want to be disrespectful and profane to the school administration, then you can spend 10 days away from school. I see no problem with that regardless of the circumstances. The school is not your babysitter, not should they be.

It seems the prevailing opinion here is that he would not have had the chance to talk to his mom later. That is almost certainly not correct. It is highly unlikely that his mother is serving in a combat position.
 
Is it me, or is a 10 day suspension a little much for pretty much anything? Short of a fight, I would think 10 days is extreme. This is like the war on drugs and an ounce of pot giving you 20 years of jail. It's TALKING, profanity is language, it's words, it's symbols. It's not like the kid brought a gun to school, or threatened to hurt someone.. he said a few words, the first words that came to his mind.

Even without the full amount of information, we can still be logical here.. I would expect a detention at MOST for profane language. My old HS (which was 4 years ago) I think the only people to get suspensions were the extreme cases, like someone brings a weapon to school with the intent of trying to kill someone. Suspensions should be used to keep the harmful kids away from school so they're not impeding on other people's educations. Detentions are used to discipline kids, because it's adding extra time to their school day.

And for anyone saying he should have left and completed the call off school grounds, many high schools have turned into detention camps, where you're not allowed to leave, and if you do they'll restrain you. And if this school is willing to *arrest* a student for foul language, I'd imagine if you walked off campus they'd throw you in a dungeon and let a wild ogre eat you alive. Not to mention, imagine a student answering a call during lunch and then proceeding (while on the phone, cause he can't hang up or he'll lose her) to walk off campus, plus the call is time-sensitive, his mother only has so many minutes to speak to him, so he's not going to waste half the time walking off campus.

My 2 Cents

-Dave
 
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend
I would have been defiant and disorderly as well. Hell, I've done it before when teachers tried to interrupt an important event in my life. When he said "this is my mom in Iraq" the teacher should have let it go. She/He deserved ever bit of defiance for being an emotionless prick.
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Then you deserve what you get. You go to school to get an education. No other reason. Don't like it and want to be disrespectful and profane to the school administration, then you can spend 10 days away from school. I see no problem with that regardless of the circumstances. The school is not your babysitter, not should they be.

It seems the prevailing opinion here is that he would not have had the chance to talk to his mom later. That is almost certainly not correct. It is highly unlikely that his mother is serving in a combat position.
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You sound like a dictator. School is by no means just for an education, it hasn't been that way for a very long time. If you believe it should be then you're on the losing end of a battle that ended many years ago.
 
Originally posted by: TechnoPro
I guess I grew up in the stone age where teenagers swearing and acting defiantly would bring on a detention at most, let alone a suspension for 10 days. As for the idiot by-the-book administrators who fail to see the direct corelation between the emotions involved in the situation and his subsequent behavior, they are entirely ill equipped to be dealing with adolescents.
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Boom! You just hit the nail on the head. Could not agree more.

When I was in high school, I was suspended for only ONE day for a major fist fight in the locker room, and both of us had pretty messed up faces (stuff people get sued for today). Angsty swearing crap like this would've only landed somebody a half hour of detention. 10 days is absolutely ridiculous. I also feel safe to say that any administrators in my school would've understood the situation, made sure he was telling the truth by asking to talk to the mother. She would then give the boy a private room to finish his conversation in and request that he immediately return to lunch afterwards.

Of course I would've handled the situation better if I had been the kid, because you can be much more influential when calm, instead of freaking out and swearing.
 
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