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Student suspended from school team for going to pick up a drunk friend at a party

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Exterous

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Have a friend too drunk to dive home and calls you for help? Apparently this school doesn't want you going to pick them up.

A 17-year-old North Andover High School senior from Massachusetts drove to a party to pick up her friend who was too drunk to drive.
Little did Erin Cox know that her decision to be a sober driver for her drunken friend would cost her title as volleyball team captain. The teen was also suspended for five games.
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An officer vouched for her sobriety but that didn’t change the school’s decision to punish the girl for her friend’s behaviour.
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The school’s lawyer Geoffrey Bok contends that the school is trying to follow through with its zero tolerance drug and alcohol policy.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2459432/Sober-student-suspended-school-driving-drunk-friend.html

So it would be better to let them drive home?
 
They should call their parents. I think that is what everyone is trying to teach them. Because coming to pick a friend up shows it is ok to drink underage if a friend can drive.

Granted its a poor way to go about this method, but I can understand what they want to achieve, again in a poor way however.
 
I read this story yesterday, it's the absolute height of stupidity. This girl did not drink, she did not endanger anyone. She chose to drive a friend to make sure she would be OK, and now the school administration wants to punish her. I guess they think it would have been better for the other girl to drive drunk and kill someone (or herself). Another brilliant example of what "zero tolerance" does. Sheer stupidity, every administrator involved with this should be fired immediately.
 
diesbudt said:
I think that is what everyone is trying to teach them. Because coming to pick a friend up shows it is ok to drink underage if a friend can drive.
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I think most teens are aware that its not 'ok' to drink from a getting in trouble standpoint and I am willing to bet there are a very large number of teens who would make the decision to drive home on their own rather than call their parents. Heck - a large number of adults don't call people to drive them home and they don't have the same legal\parent troubles waiting for them.
 
Exterous said:
I think most teens are aware that its not 'ok' to drink from a getting in trouble standpoint and I am willing to bet there are a very large number of teens who would make the decision to drive home on their own rather than call their parents. Heck - a large number of adults don't call people to drive them home and they don't have the same legal\parent troubles waiting for them.
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Yes, they would. And this is teaching them, in a bad way, to not help a friend get home and have them call their parents. As the school does not want to support underage drinking (especially a high school). And it can be seen not having the driver in trouble would be neutral on the ground of underage alcohol, thus they have to show they are against it and do something more. It sucks, and I think it is wrong. But at the same time I get what they are trying to do.
 
What they are "trying" to do is make idiotic decisions. There is not a single good reason that this should be done. They will try and fail to defend it every time.
 
diesbudt said:
They should call their parents. I think that is what everyone is trying to teach them. Because coming to pick a friend up shows it is ok to drink underage if a friend can drive.

Granted its a poor way to go about this method, but I can understand what they want to achieve, again in a poor way however.
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yeah, we need to teach those damn kids that being the designated driver is just as bad as driving under the influence! What will the world come to if everybody just called a friend instead of driving their own drunk ass?... madness D:


on another note, why is it that in 'murica you are old enough to get behind thousands of pounds of metal capable of moving well over 100 mph or go to war and die for your country yet you are not old enough for a beer?
 
Broheim said:
on another note, why is it that in 'murica you are old enough to get behind thousands of pounds of metal capable of moving well over 100 mph or go to war and die for your country yet you are not old enough for a beer?
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For the same reason that reading detailed stories about war, murder, crime, abuse, alcoholism etc is ok in 11th grade but having two lines of sexual references results in a hissy fit

Join the military and kill people but don't you dare touch a drop of alcohol!
 
Wow, I can't believe the failure of the school's administration. We've been teaching adults (children as well by proxy) to drink responsibly and have a designated driver or if you find you've had too much to drink call a cab or sober friend to pick you up.

Yet another example of zero intelligence on zero tolerance.
 
diesbudt said:
Yes, they would. And this is teaching them, in a bad way, to not help a friend get home and have them call their parents. As the school does not want to support underage drinking (especially a high school). And it can be seen not having the driver in trouble would be neutral on the ground of underage alcohol, thus they have to show they are against it and do something more. It sucks, and I think it is wrong. But at the same time I get what they are trying to do.
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It isn't teaching anyone shit, bad way, good way, neither. Kids are going to drink, kids are not going to call their parents to pick them up. this is as stupid as schools get.
 
Exterous said:
Have a friend too drunk to dive home and calls you for help? Apparently this school doesn't want you going to pick them up.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2459432/Sober-student-suspended-school-driving-drunk-friend.html

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Yet another dumbass school making up retarded rules. I guess they would rather have the friend drive drunk and kill some family. Whoever made this decision in the school should be suspended for a month with no pay to teach them a lesson.
 
The school’s lawyer Geoffrey Bok contends that the school is trying to follow through with its zero tolerance drug and alcohol policy.
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for zero tolerance policies they should just get rid of the administration and replace them with a computer program - save the big bucks :awe:
 
Exterous said:
For the same reason that reading detailed stories about war, murder, crime, abuse, alcoholism etc is ok in 11th grade but having two lines of sexual references results in a hissy fit

Join the military and kill people but don't you dare touch a drop of alcohol!
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Doesn't the Army already have this policy for those stationed in the ME?
 
If someone's had too much to drink, calling a friend and having a friend (or cab, or parent, or whatever) drive them home is EXACTLY what they should do. To punish the friend for responding and trying to take her home safely is exactly the opposite of what should happen here. Fire the administrators.
 
When legal bureaucracies replace honor and common sense.

This girl is punished for being an upstanding citizen. There needs to be consequences for those who would rule against her. Protests and such.
 
xj0hnx said:
It isn't teaching anyone shit, bad way, good way, neither. Kids are going to drink, kids are not going to call their parents to pick them up. this is as stupid as schools get.
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Yes, but zero tolerance makes the administrators jobs so much easier, it resolves them of the responsibility of thinking, and especially of dealing with parents of the disciplined.
 
Even if it was her who called up a friend cause she was too drunk to drive, the school should have SFA to say on the matter. This is simply none of their business.
 
I bet this isn't the whole story. Athletes are sometimes forced to adhere to/sign a stricter code of conduct. I'd like to see the language of that before condemning the school. Just a guess, but the zero tolerance comment would be her attendance at the party. No matter the length of time. In that case the drive home has nothing to do with it and the parents are just playing it up to skirt the issue.
 
I find it sad that there are such large numbers of adults who would rather stick their fingers in their ears and say "lalalalalala" rather than paying attention to reality. Until reality is faced, there's never going to be any real progress. There won't be any positive repercussions from this idiotic administrative decision - only negative repercussions. Though, like Pens said above - maybe there's more to it from the school's side. Did she just show up and drive her friend home? Or did she spend a significant amount of time at the party? If the latter, then I really don't have much of a problem with the decision.
 
Pens1566 said:
I bet this isn't the whole story. Athletes are sometimes forced to adhere to/sign a stricter code of conduct. I'd like to see the language of that before condemning the school. Just a guess, but the zero tolerance comment would be her attendance at the party. No matter the length of time. In that case the drive home has nothing to do with it and the parents are just playing it up to skirt the issue.
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Should not apply in High School, period.
 
sandorski said:
Even if it was her who called up a friend cause she was too drunk to drive, the school should have SFA to say on the matter. This is simply none of their business.
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I've learned long ago that in 'murica, land of the free, what students do on their own time is apparently the school's business...
 
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