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AVAFREAK182

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I am 18, living on my own, paying my own shit, yada yada. Well I am a Computer Engineering major and don't really have time to work, and quite frankly want to avoid it in general.

My parents to be honest are low class (together make ~$45,000) and can't afford to give me much more. I just need maybe $1500 to help with bills (not tuition) this year.

Does anyone have any info for this? Any good/bad experiences?

Can I even get a loan? Thanks.
 

kyrax12

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Yeah I got some, but definitely not much. 60% of tuition (parents on a monthly plan to pay the rest). Actually I retract that that isn't much, I'm very grateful for it.

But I just don't have money for a little later on.
Should had consider Community college. :eek:
 

Nintendesert

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You should join the Marines. After 4 years of service you can get the new and improved GI Bill which will put you through school and give you Sgt's BAH with dependents while you go.

And go for student loans, apply for all the financial AID you can get. You might score some Pell Grants and all that. And even then getting loans isn't all that bad especially considering how low the interest rates are.
 

kyrax12

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You should join the Marines. After 4 years of service you can get the new and improved GI Bill which will put you through school and give you Sgt's BAH with dependents while you go.

And go for student loans, apply for all the financial AID you can get. You might score some Pell Grants and all that. And even then getting loans isn't all that bad especially considering how low the interest rates are.

There some catch to Marine Join?
 

Liberator21

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I have a wife and son, we both work and I go to school. Both our jobs still couldn't get us by for my first year back so I had to take out a student loan. We needed it for bills, groceries... just a little bit here and there to make it comfortable so we weren't scrounging. You won't have to pay back until 6 months after you graduate.

But having said that... I'm fairly certain I'm going to join the National Guard primarily to qualify for their Student Loan Repayment. I don't like building up all this debt, and it's already showing on our credit - affecting our scores and determining all sorts of things. <--I need a new(er) vehicle for instance, but the interest rates they are giving me are too high for what it is.
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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I am 18, living on my own, paying my own shit, yada yada. Well I am a Computer Engineering major and don't really have time to work, and quite frankly want to avoid it in general.

My parents to be honest are lower class financially (together make ~$45,000) and can't afford to give me much more. I just need maybe $1500 to help with bills (not tuition) this year.

Does anyone have any info for this? Any good/bad experiences?

Can I even get a loan? Thanks.

Fixed that for you. :)
 

Born2bwire

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What is the aid package that you got from the university? Typically, you and your parents fill out the FASFA and submit it in a TIMELY manner (there are deadlines for some of the grants and I got screwed over on this because of how long it took my parents to submit their tax returns as part of the FASFA). From this, there is an amount of aid that is estimated and amount that is estimated that you and your family is expected to be able to contribute. The university then does its best to automatically meet the amount of needed aid. This is done via grants, scholarships, and federal loans.

If this is not enough then you should try to work with your folks to get what you need ($1500 is not too much) or you can just get a job. You can do something on campus easily enough. I worked in the cafeteria and that was worth maybe $1000 a semester (I think I made around $60 a week and this was 7 years back). That was perfectly doable with a full load of classes plus I got free meals for the shifts that I worked. In addition, you should check to see what scholarships and fellowships are available as there are many that you need to apply to on your own to get the money and the financial aid department will not do this for you. I won an alumni scholarship that was worth $2,000 but I had to apply for that on my own and win the scholarship. And of course you can work internships over the summers and save up the money from that (which I did as well). Myself, doing all of that I was able to have enough spending cash and was able to put myself through college with around $15K of loans in the end (and only $600 of the loans were unsubsidized). So it worked out pretty well for me. You're just going to have to put forth extra effort to get the last amount of aid if what you were awarded was not enough. First step is talking to the financial aid office and checking up on scholarships from your department.
 
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Mike Gayner

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Well I am a Computer Engineering major and don't really have time to work, and quite frankly want to avoid it in general.

Get a job you lazy bum. I love how students think they don't have time to work. Wait until you join the real world.
 

drebo

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I don't like building up all this debt, and it's already showing on our credit - affecting our scores and determining all sorts of things. <--I need a new(er) vehicle for instance, but the interest rates they are giving me are too high for what it is.

Student loans shouldn't affect your credit at all if you're not to the point of paying them. They're listed as defered on a credit report, and will not affect it. I've qualified for lowest rate on cars with 5 years' worth of student loans and even got preapproved for a home loan with 6 years of student loans. You might have a different issue with your credit (not enough history, maybe?)
 

pcgeek11

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Get a job you lazy bum. I love how students think they don't have time to work. Wait until you join the real world.

This. My god you want it all handed to you.

The bolded parts really get under my skin as a parent and a human:

I am 18, living on my own, paying my own shit, yada yada. Well I am a Computer Engineering major and don't really have time to work, and quite frankly want to avoid it in general.

My parents to be honest are low class (together make ~$45,000) and can't afford to give me much more. I just need maybe $1500 to help with bills (not tuition) this year.

You are paying your own shit with what? Your parents money?
You don't want to work. Lazy fuck, get a JOB.
Your parents are proud that you think they are Low Class.

It's good I'm not one of your parents or you would be cut off faster than a soft turd.
 

fire400

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Living expenses:

Stafford Subsidized and Unsubsidized, both you can pay off after you graduate, and both are part of government programs. Make sure you tell them that you do not want to pay anything back until after you graduate.

You also have the option of private loans. The interest rates are somewhat higher, but not insanely high like credit cards. This option is fine as well, just calcuate how much you need and go though with it if you want/need to.

Scholarships. The time you put into work could be put into scholarships. Fastweb.com for example. There is enough money floating around out there that you could live comfortably and get good grades without breaking all of the bank or suffering through a job that isn't getting you anywhere. Keep in mind, that after the college puts the scholarship fund into the bills for the semester, you pocket the rest of the cash on the disbursement date, or any time after that within the semester.

You are also entitled to financial aid and loan money when you take summer courses. So if you don't want to work in the summer, you can just take some classes and take out extra cash to pay for bills.

Of course the contracts will ask you to give money back. Unless you drop below full time or even half time, you will be asked to give the money back. If you're age of 23/24, forget about what your parents make, you will be claimed as independent, usually regardless of how much information you give to your school about how much money your parents make.

Take out cash if you need it, it's better to come out with debt than to not enjoy your schooling career and not do well with your studies. Sell yourself to school, and when you graduate with your BA or Masters, etc. you can sell yourself to the business world and make more money than the interest. Some loans will kick in after you finish your BA, but you may be able to defer it if you go for your Masters. But you need to study so you can pass the GMAT or MCAD or whatever Masters field you are going into, usually you need to take a Masters entrance exam, otherwise your plans will be foiled. Ensure entrance into a school with your program if you want to move past BA, so you can figure out what you will be doing with your loans.

Living expenses can go anywhere from a few hundred to +$4K or depending on where you go, $40K/year schools +$10K a semester in cash, - just depends what your plan is and how seriously you want to take your present circumstances and your future.

Don't worry about the debt too much, it will pay itself off when you graduate and find a good job. Get in debt for school, so you can better focus more clearly on what kind of transportation needs need to be met and living conditions, insure you a better future than always being confused if you don't think you can handle school + work full time/part time.

Watch what you take out, it will add up, but don't be chicken 'cuz monthly charges after you finish are easier to pay off than credit cards at the same total amount.

Students are not being fully advertised this kind of information, largely, because parents "are" responsible for their children's education, including post-high school career institutions like college or training classes. But you know what, middle class America and rich kids are offered increasingly better advertisements for college career options, whereas poor/lower class must figure this stuff out on their own, regardless of programs out there targetting lower income families. You get what you pay for, but most of all, you get what you get on how much information digging.

If you plan on touching base with fortune 1000 and want to climb the ladder, you will face days where you only want Prozac for breakfast. Just keep this is mind when you take out loans, 'cuz loans should be the least of your worries when you want to sell all of yourself to corporate America for a cha-ching!

Good luck.
 

tatteredpotato

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Student loans aren't bad unless a) you're getting a degree that doesn't pay for itself, or b) aren't committed to school and may end up dropping out.
 

deadlyapp

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I'm going to go with the rest of the kids and say get a job. If you are responsible at all you can hold down a job and classes if you limit your social partying and so on and so forth.