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AmpedSilence

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Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Xavier434
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: AmpedSilence
I might just put the entire loan on my 0% APR credit card. But that means it goes from being 'investment debt' to 'unsecured debt'; which negatively affects your credit score. </end quote></div>

Are you sure that paying off debt on 0% APR cards negatively affects one's credit card score? I would be surprised to learn that this is true only because 2 1/2 years ago I had a credit score that was over 100 points less than what I have now. Since that time, I have been making car payments, student loan payments, and several 0% APR credit card payments. Now, unless the negative effect of 0% APR is nothing compared to the positive effect of car and student loan payments, I don't see how my credit score could have risen so much so quickly.

I'm not saying you are wrong. I just want to read and learn more about it.
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I think he's saying that the debt is being reclassified (from loan to CC), which adversely affects your credit (not the 0% apr). Cannot verify however.

that is correct. For example, a mortgage is classified as 'investment debt', as are educational loans, car loans have their own category; and so do CC, which fall under the general 'unsecured loans'. Each one affects your credit rating differently, some positively other negatively.... this article explains it better.... http://moneycentral.msn.com/co...Managedebt/P150813.asp
 

Xavier434

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That was a good article. It didn't really answer my question though. The closest it came to explaining what I am looking for is this:

Not to mention what that debt could potentially do to your credit rating.

"Total personal debt should not exceed 36% of your total income," says Gelb.

That statement brings forth the question of what qualifies as "personal debt". Mainly, I want to find out if car loans and 0% APR credit cards qualify as personal debt or not.

Also, I want to learn if the scenario where I have debt on 0% APR credit cards and I always make my payments on time will result in positive or negative effects to my credit score?
 

AmpedSilence

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Originally posted by: Xavier434
That was a good article. It didn't really answer my question though. The closest it came to explaining what I am looking for is this:

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Not to mention what that debt could potentially do to your credit rating.

"Total personal debt should not exceed 36% of your total income," says Gelb.</end quote></div>

That statement brings forth the question of what qualifies as "personal debt". Mainly, I want to find out if car loans and 0% APR credit cards qualify as personal debt or not.

Also, I want to learn if the scenario where I have debt on 0% APR credit cards and I always make my payments on time will result in positive or negative effects to my credit score?

To my knowledge, CC do count as personal debt.

As for the other question, its a two-sided answer. One side, yes the regular, on time, more than minimum payment will positively affect your credit score. The other side, if that debt you are paying on exceeds that 36%, then it adversely affects your score. So it is possible that those forces cancel each other out.

A poster above saw his score increase by 100 points most likely because he was making regular payments and the total percentage went down, a doubly positive behavior.
 

Xavier434

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Originally posted by: AmpedSilence
A poster above saw his score increase by 100 points most likely because he was making regular payments and the total percentage went down, a doubly positive behavior.

I am that poster.

/flex
 

AmpedSilence

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Originally posted by: Xavier434
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: AmpedSilence
A poster above saw his score increase by 100 points most likely because he was making regular payments and the total percentage went down, a doubly positive behavior.</end quote></div>

I am that poster.

/flex

I noticed that after i posted. :eek:

btw, talk about thread hijacking :p
 

fallenangel99

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I used nelnet to consolidate my loans. Nelnet was great (this was in 2004).

If I could go back in time, I would NOT have paid off my loans quickly (I had 20K in loans, I paid it off in a year). My rate was 3.12%
 

jdini76

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Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: jdini76
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: mobiblu
federal. Does it make any difference?</end quote></div>

Yes. Federal will have a significant lower interest rate. The best and most common place to consolidate your federal loans is Sallie Mae.</end quote></div>

absolutely do NOT do your consolidation with sallie mae! There are SO MANY other competitors offering way better programs ie no funding fee, .25 off for 2 years of ontime payments, .25 off for ACH transfers, etc. Sallie Mae won't give you sht!



If you consolidate federal you can apply for the federal loan consolidation program (whatever it's called) and get locked in at a fixed rate (whatever it may be now). If you have a private loan then your only option is to get ANOTHER private loan w/ longer terms and possibly a lower interest rate. However this is tied to your credit and can vary greatly.

You are right. I gues to say 'best place' is wrong. I am sure there are better places. But it is avery common place to consolidate. And Sallie Mae does do the Federal loan consolidation program so I would assume (maybe I shouldn't) that they follow certain guidlines to do so.

Please explain further when you say .25 off for ontime payment. and .25 off for ACH transfer. .25 off what your interest rate? your principle? More info please I am intrigued.
 

Ns1

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: jdini76
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: jdini76
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: mobiblu
federal. Does it make any difference?</end quote></div>

Yes. Federal will have a significant lower interest rate. The best and most common place to consolidate your federal loans is Sallie Mae.</end quote></div>

absolutely do NOT do your consolidation with sallie mae! There are SO MANY other competitors offering way better programs ie no funding fee, .25 off for 2 years of ontime payments, .25 off for ACH transfers, etc. Sallie Mae won't give you sht!



If you consolidate federal you can apply for the federal loan consolidation program (whatever it's called) and get locked in at a fixed rate (whatever it may be now). If you have a private loan then your only option is to get ANOTHER private loan w/ longer terms and possibly a lower interest rate. However this is tied to your credit and can vary greatly.</end quote></div>

You are right. I gues to say 'best place' is wrong. I am sure there are better places. But it is avery common place to consolidate. And Sallie Mae does do the Federal loan consolidation program so I would assume (maybe I shouldn't) that they follow certain guidlines to do so.

Please explain further when you say .25 off for ontime payment. and .25 off for ACH transfer. .25 off what your interest rate? your principle? More info please I am intrigued.</end quote></div>

You should be as sallie mae won't give you sht. With some of the other lending providers, AFAIK you get a .25 interest reduction for automatic withdrawls straight from checking, and another .25 after 2-3 years of ontime payments.

sallie mae may/may not charge you a loan origination fee. This can also be a huge area for savings if you look around. FW has a great thread on loan consolidation
 

pmoa

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Originally posted by: jdini76
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: mobiblu
federal. Does it make any difference?</end quote></div>

Yes. Federal will have a significant lower interest rate. The best and most common place to consolidate your federal loans is Sallie Mae.

Go and consolidate, you will save thousands on interest. I am about 60K in debt from school. Sallie Mae will most likely be able to lower interest rates by .25% if you pay 48 months straight. So mine is as low as 2.25% consolidated, better than paying 8% IMO
 

mobiblu

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I am confuse now. I call and talk to one of the bank representative. The impression I got from the whole conversation was basically: consolidation will not give me a lower interest rate. It was lock the rate in at ~7%. It will lower the monthly payment. Something I don't need since I'm paying more than monthly payment. My current interest rate is 7.14%. Did I misinterpret something?
 

Ns1

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Originally posted by: mobiblu
I am confuse now. I call and talk to one of the bank representative. The impression I got from the whole conversation was basically: consolidation will not give me a lower interest rate. It was lock the rate in at ~7%. It will lower the monthly payment. Something I don't need since I'm paying more than monthly payment. My current interest rate is 7.14%. Did I misinterpret something?

rates are set by the feds. Some of the people above locked in at VERY low rates.
 

mobiblu

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Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis
rates are set by the feds. Some of the people above locked in at VERY low rates.

Lucky them. the best I can do right now is 7%. 36 straight payment will lower it to 6%.