Those darned church people getting in your way of doing a good deed!
Your personal code of conduct appears to be guided by the question WWJD.
So would Jesus snipe behind his neighbor's back and then greet him in a condesending and profane manner?
Those darned church people getting in your way of doing a good deed!
Your personal code of conduct appears to be guided by the question WWJD.
So would Jesus snipe behind his neighbor's back and then greet him in a condesending and profane manner?
Is this what you are referring to?
Matthew 21:12-13
Jesus at the Temple
Jesus entered the temple area and drove out all who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves. "It is written," he said to them, " 'My house will be called a house of prayer, but you are making it a 'den of robbers'."
Matthew 21:12-13
Jesus at the Temple
Jesus entered the temple area and drove out all who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves. "It is written," he said to them, " 'My house will be called a house of prayer, but you are making it a 'den of robbers'."
I can admit that I'm not perfect, and while I might try to consider what Jesus would do in any given situation, I'm going to get cranky from time to time and complain. Would Jesus post any of the hate filled rhetoric I see here every day by people who think they are righteous? I doubt it sincerely.
The point is that this guy has made a point of letting the neighborhood know that he thinks he is better than all of us 'non-Christians'. Yet he isn't meeting some of the most basic responsibilities of a good neighbor. It makes it seem like he thinks being a Christian is enough, like a "Get Out Of Jail Free" card. Even you have to admit that there are far too many "Christians" like that.
Being a good neighbor is such a simple but such a crucial thing. In global terms, we are all failing miserably.
The point is that this guy has made a point of letting the neighborhood know that he thinks he is better than all of us 'non-Christians'. Yet he isn't meeting some of the most basic responsibilities of a good neighbor. It makes it seem like he thinks being a Christian is enough, like a "Get Out Of Jail Free" card. Even you have to admit that there are far too many "Christians" like that.
Being a good neighbor is such a simple but such a crucial thing. In global terms, we are all failing miserably.
I find it interesting that you hold others to a higher standard than you yourself can attain and then chop them down in such a self-righteous, judgemental way. Certainly not what I what I would expect from someone who uses as the basis of their behavior WWJD.
Did he really let everyone know that he thinks he's better than everyone in the neighborhood or is it just upseting to you that he calls himself a Christain and attends church?
I suspect that if even if he maintained his house and yard to your satisaction, if he didn't have his friends over, and if his son didn't make out in the driveway with his girlfirend, you'd find some other reason to snipe about him behind his back.
I think your anger and resentment goes well beyond your neighbor.
All in my humble opinion, by the way.
Rip finally posts something more than a cut-n-paste or a grunt and it's a complete, all-out attack on Isla's character.
Bravo, Rip. Bravo.
I'm sorry that your interpreted it that way.
BTW, I don't think Isla needs you to speak for her.
BTW, I don't think Isla needs you to speak for her.
Read that first sentence Isla posted and understand it, she does not claim to be perfect and that is the standard she should be held to, to hold others, who claim to be better, to higher standards is reasonable.
IME the worst sinners are the preachers, they try so hard to look for faults in others that they are blind to therir own.
"the preachers" are the people like Rush Limbaugh, her neighbour, you, etc.
Your post reeks of idiocy, if you see something wrong, in this case hypocracy and not following the basic rules of the neighbourhood, you CAN and you SHOULD say something about it. I think you should get a sarcasm meter too, you seem to be entirely lost in this thread. It's so thick you could cut it with a knife and it is so ironic that you do not see it because both you and the preacher-neighbour WOULD actually do what Isla is sarcatically implying she will. (complain about two young ones kissing in public, had to write that too or you would probably not get it)
Kadarin
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Sounds to me like Isla's neighbor has a screwed up sense of priorities: His devotion to church activities has completely overshadowed his responsibility to be a good neighbor in the community. He clearly has no consideration for others in the neighborhood.
Riprorin: There is no way you can defend that.
Riprorin: There is no way you can defend that.
Unfortunately Rip, my neighbor (we will call neighbor A) has made problems for himself in our neighborhood.
One neighbor (we will call neighbor B) used to attend the same church he attends, but they felt the church was too controlling, so they left. Because of this, Neighbor A and his family shunned Neighbor B and family. Apparently, this is according to their non-denominational church's teachings. Now, Neighbor A will talk to us less-enlightened folk because we still need saving. But poor neighbor B gets shunned because they refused to come under the guidance of these wonderful Christians neighbor A hangs out with. I guess that's how you discipline the disciples.
I could go on about how Neighbor A has fully earned the annoyance of our block, but there isn't really any point in it. Personally, I feel sorry for the guy. He is a real goober. And at some point, the Home Owner's Association WILL force him to repair or get out... and that's fair enough, if you ask me.
And by the way, this is fun, guys. I kind of like hanging out here with you in P and N! I guess it brings out the real meanie in me! :laugh:
<---grateful to the guys who get the points I'm trying to make :heart:
Edit, just to clarify: Neighbor B simply joined another church. They simply didn't feel comfortable with Neighbor A's church. And that was what caused the very UN-neighborly shunning.
One neighbor (we will call neighbor B) used to attend the same church he attends, but they felt the church was too controlling, so they left. Because of this, Neighbor A and his family shunned Neighbor B and family. Apparently, this is according to their non-denominational church's teachings. Now, Neighbor A will talk to us less-enlightened folk because we still need saving. But poor neighbor B gets shunned because they refused to come under the guidance of these wonderful Christians neighbor A hangs out with. I guess that's how you discipline the disciples.
I could go on about how Neighbor A has fully earned the annoyance of our block, but there isn't really any point in it. Personally, I feel sorry for the guy. He is a real goober. And at some point, the Home Owner's Association WILL force him to repair or get out... and that's fair enough, if you ask me.
And by the way, this is fun, guys. I kind of like hanging out here with you in P and N! I guess it brings out the real meanie in me! :laugh:
<---grateful to the guys who get the points I'm trying to make :heart:
Edit, just to clarify: Neighbor B simply joined another church. They simply didn't feel comfortable with Neighbor A's church. And that was what caused the very UN-neighborly shunning.
a noble sacrofice for the good of others and fvking for pleasure are two entierly diferent things.
i didn't say it was 'evil' either. It's not for me to call anyone 'sinful' or 'evil', I've got plenty of problems of my own, but you should turn your arrows towards those in this thread that are completely on the other side of your views of what's functional in society, not me, who calls for just slightly more personal behavior than you-yourself live by.
Originally posted by: Orsorum
People like to get riled up about the "state of moral decay" because it provides them with an outlet for their own feelings of inadequacy and moral imperfection. As long as I can rail about how bad kids are nowadays, that means I don't have to sit at home and wonder why I still lust after women, or why I'm still smoking when I'm 47, or my budding alcoholism, and so forth. Always fun to watch such people.
And to poke them with pointy sticks.
Cheers!
Nate
hah! i like to rail the immoral about the state of moral decay in the US because they are so apathetic in their thinking that it is rather insulting to those of us who do have a clear understanding and adherence to a system of morals. i dont feel inadequate by any means, but i do realize that i am far from perfection and do have my faults, but my constant bantering about moral decay in no way stems from it.
back on topic, i find it wholly pathetic that a school district needs to remind its students about their obligation to public decency. that speaks volumes about our society and the ammount of effort that is put into parenting these days.
Or it could be something that was needed to be put in writing to prevent frivolous lawsuits because something wasn't included.
hopefully that's the only reason, but the views expressed in this thread show that that may well not be the only reason.
Actually i find the discussion somewhat strange too, when i went to school we used the bathrooms, not the hallways, can't remember ever seeing anyone having sex in the hallways. 
it should be understood that there is to be NO sex in the school. PERIOD. school is a place for education, not wanton sex.
something like this just begs the question of what kind of kids are parents raising and what kind of immoral society are we nurturing when we have to spell out for people when and where it is appropriate to have sex!
Red Dawn
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I remember when I was around 9 years old during a summer back in the mid 60's walking through a baseball field at a high school coming across a couple of teenagers doing the No Pnats Romance Dance so I guess we were an immoral society back then.:roll:
time doesn't change the basic immoral nature of human kind, no. That our parents aren?t teaching our children to have disciple over their actions is, in fact, something positive that we don't have that we used to.
but, of course, ignoramuses will confuse self-control with calling sex 'dirty', as such will encourage their children to follow the same immoral foot steps they themselves are trying to justify.
but, of course, ignoramuses will confuse self-control with calling sex 'dirty', as such will encourage their children to follow the same immoral foot steps they themselves are trying to justify.
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