Stuck at IP Configuration for 70-410

Berryracer

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I am taking an online course for 70-410 but it does not seem to say everything from scratch I think it is assuming that I already know most of the basics.

Anyway, I have reached to the initial server configuration where I have completed the NIC Teaming.

Next thing in the tutorial is to configure the IP Address as follows:



but when I set my IP to the above as indicated by the training course, I get a yellow exclamation mark in the network icon in the bottom right so I am sure I am doing something right.

Now the instructor did state he did add the above IP at first but add it where? Must I set that IP first in my router or something for it to work? I dont know why its showing as an exclamation mark

Please help me I'm a n00bie
 

JackMDS

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What the core IP of your Router is?

Most Routers use the 192.168.x.x subnet.

If this the case with your Router, then 172.16.x.x can not work.


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JackMDS is on the right track, but I'd also be interested in rather or not you are using virtualization for your testing. Depending on what type of networking you set up in your virtual environment, that's what you'll need to go with.
 

Berryracer

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What the core IP of your Router is?

Most Routers use the 192.168.x.x subnet.

If this the case with your Router, then 172.16.x.x can not work.


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you're right, my core ip is 192.168.1.1

so I set my server's ip to 192.168.1.10 but still got the exclamation mark in the task bar :(

what else can I do
 

Genx87

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Set the gateway IP to your routers IP. Make sure you have the correct subnet mask.
 

kevnich2

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Your screenshot assumes your router IP is going to be 172.16.0.1 and that you have a DNS server at 172.16.0.10.

Your book should have told you to setup a test environment so that you have a working router at that IP address and a working DNS server at 172.16.0.10 and that your test computer is in the same logical network or vlan.
 

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This is just an observation at this point, but with your given knowledge of networking, I wouldn't have started with 70-410 as an online course. That course does have an assumption that you already know the basics for networking, etc which obviously you don't. I would have started with a course that will cover some of the basics such as an A+ course, then maybe gone to a network+ course, then work your way up.

You need to learn to crawl before you can walk.
 

Ketchup

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This is just an observation at this point, but with your given knowledge of networking, I wouldn't have started with 70-410 as an online course. That course does have an assumption that you already know the basics for networking, etc which obviously you don't. I would have started with a course that will cover some of the basics such as an A+ course, then maybe gone to a network+ course, then work your way up.

You need to learn to crawl before you can walk.

That very well could be, but if you have the time berryracer, you could probably just grab a book covering the basics and spend some time with that. You can probably get what you need to understand what is going on here. There are also some good reads on the web (can't remember what they are atm) that will provide you with some good info.

Your situation is a bit of a double whammy, since it is online AND starts above the level you need. But I think it's still doable.
 

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In the screenshot, are you setting the IP on individual NIC's or the NIC team?
I'm not a server guy, but I'm guessing it needs to be performed on the team.
 

Berryracer

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In the screenshot, are you setting the IP on individual NIC's or the NIC team?
I'm not a server guy, but I'm guessing it needs to be performed on the team.
no im doing it on the team

i havent had trouble setting my ip to manual in Windows 7 to 192.168.1.11 but with Server 2012 it's a bit trickier

ill play around with it a bit then try again

otherwise I will need to take that Network + course :(
 

Berryracer

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Wait a minute, could the fact that I am running Windows Server 2012 using VMWare Player be the fact that it is not accepting even my IP as 192.168.1.10 ?
 

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Virtual computer does not have its own hardware it rides on the Host's Network card.

There are few modes that the Client can be configured to.

It can use the Host as a Router (Shared Networking), or a direct Mode putting the Virtual Computer on the network by itself.

If it suppose to be on the Network by itself, make sure that you use an IP that is of the same subnet, DNS, and Gateway as the Host.

If you are Not familiar with the Network settings of Virtual Computer get yourself some knowledge on its configuration modes.



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Berryracer

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Virtual computer does not have its own hardware it rides on the Host's Network card.

There are few modes that the Client can be configured to.

It can use the Host as a Router (Shared Networking), or a direct Mode putting the Virtual Computer on the network by itself.

If it suppose to be on the Network by itself, make sure that you use an IP that is of the same subnet, DNS, and Gateway as the Host.

If you are Not familiar with the Network settings of Virtual Computer get yourself some knowledge on its configuration modes.



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Riiight! Thanks for the tip man.

I'll try that...

Hope I get this sorted because my study program has come to a halt ever since I got this problem :rolleyes:

I guess video course I am talking is targeted towards professionals or current MCSE 2008 people not n00bs like me :(

I will not give up...I must learn this by hook or crook

thanks for every person who replied in this thread

just a quick question, am I doing it right the way it is below?

 
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Yeah, if your choose "Bridged (connect directly to the Network) the IP of the Virtual has to b assigned a unique IP of the same subnet as the whole Network . DNS and Gateway should be the core IP of the main router.



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Yeah as Jack pointed out, with the setup I think you have, you want a bridged connection. Basically think of your host computer's NIC as a switch uplink. Your virtual computer's virtual NIC is now connected to the virtual switch within your host computer. The IP, subnet mask, gateway and DNS need to be in the same subnet as your host computer - NOT what you show in your book, unless you reconfigure your entire network to match what they have in your course material.

Usually for my course work, I setup an entire virtual infrastracture modeled with what the book tells me to have. For example, mine usually contained a section that says, to complete this you will need the following lab setup: One router configured with these interfaces, a working DNS server at this IP address, a system running active directory, etc etc. Then I setup my lab to be modeled at that so when I go through the virtual labs in the book, everything works as described.

If I were you, I'd grab one of the kindle books for A+ and Network+ and go to town. The course you're taking is more for current MCP/MCSE for Server '08 or A+/Network+ graduates. Not saying it can't be done but you do need to learn the basics of networking before going to the systems level as that's more what I consider fundamental and the system's are above that - they all build upon each other.
 

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Ok, now the IP problem is gone after I have chosen to have my LAN as a Bridged mode and I set my Server's IP to 192.168.1.10

I created a local domain called

berryracer.local and I joined that domain on my Windows 7 computer as well but the issue is I cannot see the Server in the Network window and neither can the server see me or itself even.

Any suggestions on what could be the issue?

On my Windows 7 PC I can only see my own PC in the Networks connection but the server can see nothing even though I have turned on File and Printer Sharing in the Network and Sharing Center in the server side, disabled password protected sharing, and changed 128 bit encryption to 40/56 Bit in the Domain settings

I noticed that on the Server, everytime I turn On Network Sharing in the Network and Sharing Center, when I click Save and go back to it, the radio button goes back to disabled. :(
 
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Berryracer

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I think I found the solution. From the "What is network discovery?" Windows help topic:
"Network discovery requires that the DNS Client, Function Discovery Resource Publication, SSDP Discovery, and UPnP Device Host"
I opened the Services MMC snap-in and saw that the following services were disabled:

  • Function Discovery Resource Publication
  • SSDP Discovery
  • UPnP Device Host
Enabling and starting these services did the trick and now Network Discovery is enabled and I can see the server. It doesn't explain why toggling this in the UI didn't enable these services.

The thing is, now on my Windows 7 workstation I can see my computer and the Server but on the Server I can only see the Server listed and not my Windows 7 workstation, any suggestion guys?

thanks
 
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Berryracer

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ok, I've started my Network+ N10-005 training, god this shit's even harder....

I thought I was a pro in computers until I started getting into the world of networking. This makes installing an OS, applying a few tweaks and so, seem silly compared to what's really under the h00d
 

Ketchup

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ok, I've started my Network+ N10-005 training, god this shit's even harder....

I thought I was a pro in computers until I started getting into the world of networking. This makes installing an OS, applying a few tweaks and so, seem silly compared to what's really under the h00d

You are doing it right. As of now, general IT won't get you very far. A network guy who can handle general IT tasks is where it's at. Of course I don't know exactly how it is where you are, but probably similar.
 

Berryracer

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You are doing it right. As of now, general IT won't get you very far. A network guy who can handle general IT tasks is where it's at. Of course I don't know exactly how it is where you are, but probably similar.
you are right, here in Dubai companies don't care about how good you are at computers or how you can tweak systems for faster performance / tweaks or to keep their software up to date.... they use outdated versions of IE, lack of windows updates, and users cant even update their flash players due to administrative rights...BUT....these companies just want a mupper who can run the server and add new users when needed and fix the printer.... so where I excel, that is tweaking, optimizing, etc....is looked at with 0 value here in the Dubai world. Add to that, that I have no certificate of anything, I learned by building systems since I was 14 years old,,,, i obviously can never get a job in IT with no certification...