stuck at 2.9 on venice 3000 ;)

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: Ronnie
Hit the print screen buttom on your keyboard paste that into ms paint and save as jpeg. Use imageshack.com to host your pic's.

pics.bbzzdd.com

 

[1Dark1Sharigan1]

Originally posted by: GrInD1901
umm..okay ill try to get the pics...how do u take a s/h of ur desktop??
i dnt got a digital camera.... n its not bs.....im surprised myself.....the flickering starts at 2.75 and doesnt stop....its not too stable..though not that hot

by the way guys what kinda cooler should i get???? and u should see my case.....gateway 2000 with 3 case fans.....im gettin antec super lanboy though....
please help me out with this cause i never ocd a a64 before n this is kinda cool....
well i think ill keep it on 2.6 cause i really dnt like the flickery screen....

There's a button on your keyboard that says "Print Scrn". That will take a screenshot of whatever happens to be displaying on your monitor and copy it to the Window's clipboard. You can then paste it and save it using whatever image editing program you have. Use Photobucket.com to host your pics . . .

An XP-90 is inexpensive, easy to install and should suit your needs just fine . . .

EDIT: seems I'm beaten to the punch again . . .

 

[l Xes l]

if it's really 57c load... cut back .2-.3ghz and chill on that volt... or u will be sorry later..

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: krnxpride83
if it's really 57c load... cut back .2-.3ghz and chill on that volt... or u will be sorry later..

57c is withing the safe operating temp range specified by AMD.

Id be much more concerned about his voltage settings.

 

[l Xes l]

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: krnxpride83
if it's really 57c load... cut back .2-.3ghz and chill on that volt... or u will be sorry later..

57c is withing the safe operating temp range specified by AMD.

Id be much more concerned about his voltage settings.

think about long run... and room temp isn't always constant.. wait for the summer days..

 

[w00t]

still havent seen any proof at all.

this is a lie 2900mhz on a stock amd64 cooler..... umm okay

WORLD RECORD: http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=41857

 

[l Xes l]

that's crazy

 

[Absolute0]

2.9 GHz isn't so hard to believe. I know of a few Venices that have done 3 Ghz on air cooling, although we were talking Big Typhoon cooling. They were 0521DPMWs.

I have a 3000+ 0517APJW that does 2.9 Ghz on air
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v729/absolute035/Computer/2903-2-hours.jpg
and 3 Ghz on water
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v729/absolute035/overclocking/3-Ghz.jpg
I also had an 0515APAW that did 2.7 Ghz prime stable on stock volts.

So while he probably isn't stable at 2.9 Ghz on stock cooling... it's quite possible that he at least posted there and messed around. Plus, you never know when these guys crank the AC on in their house and get an ambient of 60F.

 

[1Dark1Sharigan1]

Originally posted by: w00t
still havent seen any proof at all.

this is a lie 2900mhz on a stock amd64 cooler..... umm okay

WORLD RECORD: http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=41857

Good god, 404MHz FSB? That bette be a suicide shot lol . . .

Also, 60F room temp WILL NOT give him those kind of OC on stock cooling, stable or not. The stock AMD cooler is MUCH worse than say Big Typhoon or even XP-90. AS5 wouldn't do much either if it's stock heatsink . . .

 

[Absolute0]

How do you know, have you tried all this? 60F room versus 72F room is 12F cooler which is ~7C cooler, not exactly the same benefit that you would get from a BT, but similar to an upgraded heatsink.

And who are you to know how far a venice will go, stable or not? When you're going for top speeds, temperature doesn't get very hot because you're idling while you're taking a suicide shot. I got a 3.02 Ghz screenshot off my 0517APJW 3000+ on the XP90, so i'm betting that i could have EASILY gotten a 2.9+ Ghz screeny with the stock cooler. When comparing idle temperatures, the difference isn't going to be nearly as large as when we're comparing load temperatures.
Here is my 3000+ suiciding with my water cooling. Doesn't scale very well since i was at 3020 Mhz with XP90 and way less volts.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v729/absolute035/overclocking/3.jpg

Also, if it's a world record, YES it will be a suicide shot. Why take your WR screenshot when you're stable and could still go further? 404 Mhz FSB isn't unheard of for a memory controller or a good motherboard.

 

[Leper Messiah]

Hey OP, change the HTT setting to 600, you'll be far more stable there.

And venices are very cool running procs. I mean, my winchester ran 54C on stock cooling at 1.65v load in the middle of the summer...in the winter, its quite possible to run 1.7+ and be cool, though long run processor durabilty is a question...

 

[GrInD1901]

guys......srry i havent posted in long......ma pc didnt boot at all 2day.....when it did....it said......cannot find file..........system32/drivers/ntfs.sys.......thats ntfs system file.......so i had to get a new hdd and now im all new on 2.4.......its okay cuz on black friday im getting a new coler n ill show u guys the pics....also about the temps....i read that these speedfans are still not totally correct for evga nf-41.....well it seems to be good now....

 

[theMan]

oooh, that sucks. did you ever run any stress tests?

 

[1Dark1Sharigan1]

Originally posted by: Absolute0
How do you know, have you tried all this? 60F room versus 72F room is 12F cooler which is ~7C cooler, not exactly the same benefit that you would get from a BT, but similar to an upgraded heatsink.

And who are you to know how far a venice will go, stable or not? When you're going for top speeds, temperature doesn't get very hot because you're idling while you're taking a suicide shot. I got a 3.02 Ghz screenshot off my 0517APJW 3000+ on the XP90, so i'm betting that i could have EASILY gotten a 2.9+ Ghz screeny with the stock cooler. When comparing idle temperatures, the difference isn't going to be nearly as large as when we're comparing load temperatures.
Here is my 3000+ suiciding with my water cooling. Doesn't scale very well since i was at 3020 Mhz with XP90 and way less volts.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v729/absolute035/overclocking/3.jpg

Also, if it's a world record, YES it will be a suicide shot. Why take your WR screenshot when you're stable and could still go further? 404 Mhz FSB isn't unheard of for a memory controller or a good motherboard.

Hey calm down a little man, no need to get upset . . .

Actually I have tried it. We had a cold front around here several weeks ago and I decided to open the windows. The inside temp got aroud 55-57F and the difference it caused to my CPU temps wasn't all that significant from 30C to about 26C idle and 37C to about 35C load . . .

Ambient temps mainly effect idle temperatures. Load temperatures however depend mainly on the heatsink/fan used.

Look, the OP said he was getting a maximum temp of 57C with his CPU @ 2.96 GHz 1.55v . . . I can only assume then that the CPU would be stable enough to perform benchmarks/burn-in tests and hence not just a "suicide shot." As you said, you could easily post a screenshot at 2.9 GHz on your 0517 Venice. But the OP is saying his CPU can actually bench @ 2.96 GHz 1.55v on stock cooler, a big difference.

Also he still has not posted screenshots, so why should we be inclined to just take his word for it?

As for 404 Mhz thing, did you notice at all that I was being sarcastic when I said "that better be a suicide shot??"

EDIT: okay, if it's a speedfan error . . .

 

[imported_michaelpatrick33]

You are aware that sometimes when you overclock to far, espeically memory, you get, "missing ntfsys.dll file (I can't remember the exact file name) and Windows won't start. All you have to do is backup the memory frequency and Windows will boot. It doesn't mean you need a new hard-drive at all. I had that black screen many times as I attempted to find the sweet spot when overclocking my X2 and Windows works perfectly still after finding my maximium overclock.

 

[1Dark1Sharigan1]

Originally posted by: michaelpatrick33
You are aware that sometimes when you overclock to far, espeically memory, you get, "missing ntfsys.dll file (I can't remember the exact file name) and Windows won't start. All you have to do is backup the memory frequency and Windows will boot. It doesn't mean you need a new hard-drive at all. I had that black screen many times as I attempted to find the sweet spot when overclocking my X2 and Windows works perfectly still after finding my maximium overclock.

Or just clear CMOS . . . but the mem way would be less work . . .

 

[Absolute0]

Originally posted by: 1Dark1Sharigan1

Originally posted by: Absolute0
How do you know, have you tried all this? 60F room versus 72F room is 12F cooler which is ~7C cooler, not exactly the same benefit that you would get from a BT, but similar to an upgraded heatsink.

And who are you to know how far a venice will go, stable or not? When you're going for top speeds, temperature doesn't get very hot because you're idling while you're taking a suicide shot. I got a 3.02 Ghz screenshot off my 0517APJW 3000+ on the XP90, so i'm betting that i could have EASILY gotten a 2.9+ Ghz screeny with the stock cooler. When comparing idle temperatures, the difference isn't going to be nearly as large as when we're comparing load temperatures.
Here is my 3000+ suiciding with my water cooling. Doesn't scale very well since i was at 3020 Mhz with XP90 and way less volts.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v729/absolute035/overclocking/3.jpg

Also, if it's a world record, YES it will be a suicide shot. Why take your WR screenshot when you're stable and could still go further? 404 Mhz FSB isn't unheard of for a memory controller or a good motherboard.

Hey calm down a little man, no need to get upset . . .

Actually I have tried it. We had a cold front around here several weeks ago and I decided to open the windows. The inside temp got aroud 55-57F and the difference it caused to my CPU temps wasn't all that significant from 30C to about 26C idle and 37C to about 35C load . . .

Ambient temps mainly effect idle temperatures. Load temperatures however depend mainly on the heatsink/fan used.

Look, the OP said he was getting a maximum temp of 57C with his CPU @ 2.96 GHz 1.55v . . . I can only assume then that the CPU would be stable enough to perform benchmarks/burn-in tests and hence not just a "suicide shot." As you said, you could easily post a screenshot at 2.9 GHz on your 0517 Venice. But the OP is saying his CPU can actually bench @ 2.96 GHz 1.55v on stock cooler, a big difference.

Also he still has not posted screenshots, so why should we be inclined to just take his word for it?

As for 404 Mhz thing, did you notice at all that I was being sarcastic when I said "that better be a suicide shot??"

EDIT: okay, if it's a speedfan error . . .

Sorry i got worked up, i was mainly capitalizing on the "stable or not" clause in your original post, because i think that in 60F ambient, it would take only a decent overclocking chip to do some SSs in the 2.9x Ghz range. But I agree that running completely stable at those speeds and voltages on stock cooler is highly unlikely. As no pictures have been posted and probably never will be posted, we will probably never know, and i will personally never be sure, but i usually assume that people are telling the truth to the best of their ability, so i'll trust that the OP has an above average chip and is currently facing some technical problems.

 

[GrInD1901]

guys thanks for taking my word and when i said i got a new hard drive i didnt mean i bought a new one. i just formatted and now the farthest i can go is 259 on 1.475. YA KNOW WHAT....thats enough for me for now.......when i get a new coller i promise to try it again and show the pics......i hate being called the liar. well thanks. and for the cooler....should i get the big typhoon?

i love anandtech.....people r helpful n nice

 

[1Dark1Sharigan1]

Originally posted by: GrInD1901
guys thanks for taking my word and when i said i got a new hard drive i didnt mean i bought a new one. i just formatted and now the farthest i can go is 259 on 1.475. YA KNOW WHAT....thats enough for me for now.......when i get a new coller i promise to try it again and show the pics......i hate being called the liar. well thanks. and for the cooler....should i get the big typhoon?

i love anandtech.....people r helpful n nice

Don't take it personally, some of us are just skeptical by nature . . .

In any case the Big Typhoon is a good cooler but it's also BIG and well HEAVY. It weighs the better part of a kilo but tends to beat XP-120, SI-120, and XP-90C by a little bit with Athlon 64s . . . at least while keeping the fan relatively quiet . . . (Big Typhoon still comes after to the Scythe Ninja though)

Also installation is a little tedious and requries you to remove your mobo backplate. I would say just go for an SI-120 or XP-90 . . . both will cool your CPU pretty much as well as a Big Typhoon, won't weight nearly as much, and easier to install . . .

I also noticed you're using an Ultra X-Connect. I myself have used that PSU in the past and I have to tell you that if you more stability you may want to switch to a different PSU. Maybe try an Antec TP II or an OCZ Powerstream . . .

 

[WhoBeDaPlaya]

Just get a Vantec Ion 460W, real beast of a PSU.
IINM, it's still $57.99 at SVC.

 

[GrInD1901]

i would upgrade the psu......but i have this one for only about a month..not even. i got in for 30 bucks on tigerdirect.....well thanks guys ill think about the cooler....also on black friday compusa is having some REALY REALLY good sales. for examp,e 300 gb sata 7200rpm hdd for 30 bucks.......antec super lanboy for 30 bucks......im probably going for the antec super lanboy...by the way if yuo wanna laugh tell me to post pics of my case......i think its the most ghetto-fixed gateway 2000 case on earth.....well guys keep advising me....