Struggling to lose weight. Requesting Help!

[jiggahertz]

Originally posted by: SociallyChallenged

Originally posted by: jiggahertz

Originally posted by: SociallyChallenged

Originally posted by: BarneyFife

Originally posted by: spamsk8r

Originally posted by: BarneyFife
People say you don't need to starve yourself but you have too.

I remember I was fat in high school and in the summer of my 10th grade year I had an epiphany. I was about 190 lbs and dropped 55 lbs by starving myself. It was a little excessive and I shouldn't have dropped that much but I did it without going to the gym every day. That meant to stop eating at 7 pm. Just water. It also meant only eating twice a day. Lunch and dinner. It also meant only eating turkey/tuna/granola bars etc.. There were times I would go on binges (Holidays) but I remained true to the diet.

Your problem is simple. You're eating too much. DON'T EAT EVERY 3-4 HOURS. I know a lot of people that start diets and start eating all fucking day like they are magically going to lose weight by eating 4 lbs of food a day. Eat 2000 calories and if you're hungry just suck it up. You'll get used to it in a week or so. You want to lose weight...

Eat 1-2 granola bars/oatmeal cookies for breakfast in the morning 200 calories
Eat a turkey sandwich/chicken breast, maybe some small snacks, fruit 600 calories
Eat chicken breast with bbq sauce and a couple slices of bread 600 calories

Throw in a few snacks but again stop eating by 7 pm.

If you're too lazy to cook, buy some "smart ones" frozen dinners. Throw them in the oven and they actually taste decent. Add a couple slices of whole wheat bread to fill you.

Important to drink water. Stay away from fruit juices/orange juice/pepsi etc.. Also, its ok to eat out once in a while but get a kids meal. Diet is 99% mental.

Wrong in so many ways. Yes, you can definitely starve yourself and lose weight, but you would lose a *ton* of muscle in the process, which is not good, ever. I eat every 3-4 hours, and consume 2200 calories a day, and I've lost 18 pounds so far. Frozen dinners are not terrible, but not optimal either, and it won't get you in the habit of eating good, nutritious, natural food. If you eat lots of fruits and vegetables (fresh) you won't have hunger issues, since they take up *far* more volume than breads and cereals. Please, don't post if you don't know what you're talking about. This is the Health and Fitness forum, not the I'm an anorexic idiot forum.

When did I say to eat frozen foods every day? Are you that fucking dense that you can't see where I said to eat 2000 calories and stick to turkey/chicken breast/water/whole wheat bread? I'm getting lectured by a fat ass LOL

Yeah, alright, let's freaking go there. You say to eat two meals a day. Wow, that's a great idea to push a person to binge eating. The best way to avoid being hungry like that AND STILL TAKE IN 2K CALORIES is to eat many, small, fibrous foods. You say to starve yourself. In no way are you SUPPOSED TO or do you HAVE TO starve yourself. Your ignorance when it comes to health and the human body is extremely poor. You remember in 10th grade... Right. So let's talk about that. Did you talk to anybody about it? No. Did you enjoy it? No. Did you have an eating disorder at some point? Yes. You are talking about doing EVERYTHING wrong in a health and fitness forum. Seriously, get the hell out of here, troll. Don't talk about health or fitness, because you know nothing of either.

Wow, you guys are really getting bent out of shape about nothing. BarneyFife uses the word "starve" and everyone flies off the handle. When you are on a cut, you are essentially starving your body -- that is depriving it of the amount of calories you normally intake to maintain your current weight. BarneyFife suggests 2000 cals/day, with 3 meals no greater than 600 cals and snacks to fill out the 2000 cals. Spamsk8r thinks he's an "anorexic idiot" and is on a 2200 calorie diet and posts later that the OPs 2100 calories is a good level. This is like a bad SNL skit, get a clue.

No, no. That's not why there was confrontation. The confrontation was in the fact that he was telling the OP to do it entirely wrong. If you read BarneyFife's post, you'll see that he took in only 1400 calories, which is BS. Your metabolism will commit suicide and you won't get anything done. He is also telling the OP to eat only 3 meals and doesn't suggest vegetables as a good filler. He specifically says "DON'T EAT EVERY 3-4 HOURS." Wrong. That's how you get hungry, which leads to binging. You need to eat every 3-4 hours to keep your stomach full and to keep your body as satiated as possible. He is telling the OP to do everything incorrectly. Don't come on here defending poor nutrition and dieting. There is an optimal way to do things, minimizing backsliding and anguish. Barney's is not one of them - we are just here to point that out.

No, he specifically says "eat 2000 calories", then lists 3 of the meals that come to 1400 calories not counting whatever "snacks" he adds in. I can't read BarneyFife's mind, but what is sound like was he was saying don't just think because you are eating every 3-4 hours means you will loose weight. When you have 3 meals/day + snacks thrown in he was probably eating close to that time period anyway. And eating 3-4 hours is not a requirement of a good diet. If you've had success holding off hunger by doing that, great. But it is FAR from an eating disorder if you don't.

 

[Cyraxx]

When losing weight folks, what determines your weight loss is pretty much 85% diet. Exercise is just topping on the cake (in addition to being healthy for your body, of course) and what helps maintain muscle instead of losing it with the fat.

 

[SociallyChallenged]

Originally posted by: Cyraxx
When losing weight folks, what determines your weight loss is pretty much 85% diet. Exercise is just topping on the cake (in addition to being healthy for your body, of course) and what helps maintain muscle instead of losing it with the fat.

Technically, losing weight in general is 100% diet. Losing solely fat is the point where exercise matters. I do believe we said this like a jillion times - no offense

 

[spamsk8r]

Originally posted by: jiggahertz

No, he specifically says "eat 2000 calories", then lists 3 of the meals that come to 1400 calories not counting whatever "snacks" he adds in. I can't read BarneyFife's mind, but what is sound like was he was saying don't just think because you are eating every 3-4 hours means you will loose weight. When you have 3 meals/day + snacks thrown in he was probably eating close to that time period anyway. And eating 3-4 hours is not a requirement of a good diet. If you've had success holding off hunger by doing that, great. But it is FAR from an eating disorder if you don't.

Yes, he did suggest eating 2000 calories, but that was not the point of contention for me. 2000 calories a day is perfectly fine for most men attempting to lose weight (barring some very small men). Also, I wasn't calling him an anorexic idiot, I was stating that starving oneself can lead to eating disorders such as anorexia, and someone who starved themselves in such a manner could rightly be called an anorexic idiot. The main issue was this statement: People say you don't need to starve yourself but you have too. (sic)

I don't starve by any means on a 2000-2200 calorie diet, and have been losing weight successfully for 4 months, so this statement is patently false. That's all.