Street Fighter IV, actual PC release date?

[hooflung]

If you think you are going to be able to put an xbox 360 controller on the pc and enjoy this game then you are going to be met with a complete disapointment that might borderline on road rage.

First of all this game is tough. It is barely playable with the xbox 360 D-Pad. The D-Pad on the 360 is so horrible for this game you will pull your hair out. Jumping up while doing fireballs is so common because of the flakey pad that my entire town sold out of 360 SF4 sticks and pads the day after they got their copy of the game.

3 Gamestops, sold out of every SF4 pad including the PS3 the next day before I got to the store.

I had to resort to getting a Hori Arcade 3 from an Amazon shop out of Cali. My PS3 version is amazing, so is the xbox 360... but like the 360 the PS3 D-Pad is flakey as well. I am an old school SF2 gamer. I know the moves by heart. I cannot pull off moves consitantly on the PS3 pad to the point my hands hurt after just 1 or 2 rounds. Not only am I not the only person online who says this... its in multiple reviews ( and it's not capcom's fault for the crap-d pads ) but ever place I went friday and saturday to pick up an SF4 pad from madcatz there were people there asking the same questions. In gamestop a few people left disapointed like me.

So please, for the love of all that you find holy, get a Hori or <insert your arcade stick brand here> with USB before you play this game. Don't buy a 360 pad for PC as it will be a waste for this game.

 

[chizow]

This is war!!!!
And it?s on tonight,
So get up and fight.....
Get up and fight......
You had all your life,
To run and hide....
Step up, step up....
Let?s do this!!!!

SF4 Commercial with Sick Puppies SF4 (WAR)

That commercial is making me want to get a 360 (again) for this damn game. Was there ever a release date announced? Some of the online vendors state August I believe......

 

[Dumac]

Originally posted by: minmaster
you sure about that? because all games i know that are on both platforms are DO NOT have cross-platform online play.

Off the top of my head (don't really know the validity of these suggestions)

Shadowrun
FFXI

 

[BladeVenom]

Universe at War and Lost Planet: Extreme Condition Colonies Edition also offer cross platform play.

 

[soybeast]

Originally posted by: hooflung
If you think you are going to be able to put an xbox 360 controller on the pc and enjoy this game then you are going to be met with a complete disapointment that might borderline on road rage.

First of all this game is tough. It is barely playable with the xbox 360 D-Pad. The D-Pad on the 360 is so horrible for this game you will pull your hair out. Jumping up while doing fireballs is so common because of the flakey pad that my entire town sold out of 360 SF4 sticks and pads the day after they got their copy of the game.

3 Gamestops, sold out of every SF4 pad including the PS3 the next day before I got to the store.

I had to resort to getting a Hori Arcade 3 from an Amazon shop out of Cali. My PS3 version is amazing, so is the xbox 360... but like the 360 the PS3 D-Pad is flakey as well. I am an old school SF2 gamer. I know the moves by heart. I cannot pull off moves consitantly on the PS3 pad to the point my hands hurt after just 1 or 2 rounds. Not only am I not the only person online who says this... its in multiple reviews ( and it's not capcom's fault for the crap-d pads ) but ever place I went friday and saturday to pick up an SF4 pad from madcatz there were people there asking the same questions. In gamestop a few people left disapointed like me.

So please, for the love of all that you find holy, get a Hori or <insert your arcade stick brand here> with USB before you play this game. Don't buy a 360 pad for PC as it will be a waste for this game.

I don't know if I'm just one of the weird ones, but I can play pretty well on the ps2/ps3 analog stick. I've never really played sf seriously on an arcade stick, but it would seem to me that there shouldn't be much of a difference right? They're both analog sticks, and in fact the ps2/ps3 analog should be better because of the shorter throw distance? Am I missing something here?

 

[Barfo]

So what's the release date for the PC? I can't wait to get my hands on it.

 

[jonks]

Pre-ordered it (June 2 according to Amazon) and have a saitek wireless gamepad with the 6 button layout that I wooted for $5 a year ago Hope it handles ok or I may have to pony up for that madcatz jobbie.

 

[MustangSVT]

Originally posted by: chronox

Originally posted by: MustangSVT
ive got my stick ready to destroy all.!!!

Which stick do you have? I wanted to get the MadCatz TE edition stick am now considering the Hori EX2.

I use PS2& modified xbox joysticks on PC.

One is the (now rare) Namco PS1 stick in grey and yellow. and the other is the one that came with Tekken compilation pack. (its huuuuge!).

I prefer the namco ps1 stick as it has served me VERY well over the years.

I also have a modified arcade stick that uses asian style stick and buttons for xbox (which again can be used on pc) but that uses actual arcade parts HK style and stick is too long and buttons are too hard to press. I prefer japanese style.

I didnt know there were many ppl interested in original 2d fighting games.

We should make a server and play each other over the net.

SSF2tx!!

 

[minmaster]

scroll down on this page where it says "about this game" and it says december 2009 is the release date...wtf?

 

[RiDE]

It makes me sad when I play this game on my friends' PS3 or 360... since I don't have either. June 30 is so far.

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: MustangSVT
I didnt know there were many ppl interested in original 2d fighting games.

I haven't played any since SFII and MKIII over a decade ago. I spent ungodly amounts of time and money on sf2 when my buddy got me into it in high school. After mk3 I just lost interest. Never had any interest in the 3d fighters.

The main reason im psyched for sf4 is that pretty much all reviews say if you used to play it you will be able to jump in and do decently until you come to grips with the new techniques. It'll be funny as shit when I whoop my teen nephew with some decade old combos, haha. I was playing this game when he was in diapers

 

[BenSkywalker]

I've never really played sf seriously on an arcade stick, but it would seem to me that there shouldn't be much of a difference right? They're both analog sticks, and in fact the ps2/ps3 analog should be better because of the shorter throw distance? Am I missing something here?

Yeah, they are digital sticks, you don't want analog for the most part. For a game like SF anything more then 8 way digital stick tends to make it harder to pull off moves smoothly. Really, a 4 way can make it easier IME then even an 8 way, analog sticks are too sensitive/accurate- I don't really want to worry about being 1mm off when I start a sequence and have it fail/lost a match because I was using analog instead of digital. Don't get me wrong, I've been running Razer mice for years now- I like the utmost precission whenever it is useful, but it ends up hurting more then helping in this particular game.

The main reason im psyched for sf4 is that pretty much all reviews say if you used to play it you will be able to jump in and do decently until you come to grips with the new techniques.

This is true up to a point, certain characters play mechanics have changed rather heavily, namely Chun Li and Vega who used to be my top two choices(they are WAY slower then they were, Fei Long and Cammy now are the faster characters, but completely different move set then what I'm used to).

 

[aceO07]

Originally posted by: BenSkywalker
This is true up to a point, certain characters play mechanics have changed rather heavily, namely Chun Li and Vega who used to be my top two choices(they are WAY slower then they were, Fei Long and Cammy now are the faster characters, but completely different move set then what I'm used to).

That's too bad. It's nice that Fei Long and Cammy are faster now, though I like Chun Li and Vega to be fast too.

Is there a way to use the SF4 fightstick with the PC? I assume I'd need to get a ps3 or xbox converter to usb? Wondering if I could pick it up early and just use it for mame for a while. Does it work well with mame?

 

[Jules]

Originally posted by: aceO07

Originally posted by: BenSkywalker
This is true up to a point, certain characters play mechanics have changed rather heavily, namely Chun Li and Vega who used to be my top two choices(they are WAY slower then they were, Fei Long and Cammy now are the faster characters, but completely different move set then what I'm used to).

That's too bad. It's nice that Fei Long and Cammy are faster now, though I like Chun Li and Vega to be fast too.

Is there a way to use the SF4 fightstick with the PC? I assume I'd need to get a ps3 or xbox converter to usb? Wondering if I could pick it up early and just use it for mame for a while. Does it work well with mame?

I think the xbox 360 version of the fightstick should be compatible out of the box.

 

[aceO07]

Seems like Newegg is now also doing a pre-order on the game. Same price as Amazon.

 

[Sureshot324]

Originally posted by: aceO07

Originally posted by: BenSkywalker
This is true up to a point, certain characters play mechanics have changed rather heavily, namely Chun Li and Vega who used to be my top two choices(they are WAY slower then they were, Fei Long and Cammy now are the faster characters, but completely different move set then what I'm used to).

That's too bad. It's nice that Fei Long and Cammy are faster now, though I like Chun Li and Vega to be fast too.

Is there a way to use the SF4 fightstick with the PC? I assume I'd need to get a ps3 or xbox converter to usb? Wondering if I could pick it up early and just use it for mame for a while. Does it work well with mame?

No. Hardly any 3D games work on mame.

 

[aceO07]

Originally posted by: Sureshot324

Originally posted by: aceO07

Originally posted by: BenSkywalker
This is true up to a point, certain characters play mechanics have changed rather heavily, namely Chun Li and Vega who used to be my top two choices(they are WAY slower then they were, Fei Long and Cammy now are the faster characters, but completely different move set then what I'm used to).

That's too bad. It's nice that Fei Long and Cammy are faster now, though I like Chun Li and Vega to be fast too.

Is there a way to use the SF4 fightstick with the PC? I assume I'd need to get a ps3 or xbox converter to usb? Wondering if I could pick it up early and just use it for mame for a while. Does it work well with mame?

No. Hardly any 3D games work on mame.

I wasn't referring to playing SF4 on mame. Actually interested in playing the old SF2 series on it. Just don't know how well the SF4 fightstick would work on mame with it.

 

[MustangSVT]

Originally posted by: aceO07

Originally posted by: Sureshot324

Originally posted by: aceO07

Originally posted by: BenSkywalker
This is true up to a point, certain characters play mechanics have changed rather heavily, namely Chun Li and Vega who used to be my top two choices(they are WAY slower then they were, Fei Long and Cammy now are the faster characters, but completely different move set then what I'm used to).

That's too bad. It's nice that Fei Long and Cammy are faster now, though I like Chun Li and Vega to be fast too.

Is there a way to use the SF4 fightstick with the PC? I assume I'd need to get a ps3 or xbox converter to usb? Wondering if I could pick it up early and just use it for mame for a while. Does it work well with mame?

No. Hardly any 3D games work on mame.

I wasn't referring to playing SF4 on mame. Actually interested in playing the old SF2 series on it. Just don't know how well the SF4 fightstick would work on mame with it.

personally I havent tried it but if its anything like normal xbox 360 pad, it should work fine w/o any tweaking.

And mame runs all cps2 and some cps 3 games perfectly.

I use ps2 to usb adaptor to use ps2 jostick on PC and all games feel pretty damn good.

SF2 series, SF3, SVC, KOF etc etc.

 

[nestlewater]

You're all n00bers to fighting games. BEST weapon is keyboard, it is like having a joystick but you will have perfect inputs because you're hitting each switch, left down right up. vs a joystick where the gate might cause you to drop an input.

I have a Hori HRAP modded with the sanwa arcade buttons. which I will NOT be using for the PC version, because just cuz i spent 120 bux on the thing doesn't make it better than a keyboard.

Keyboard FTW

 

[pennylane]

Originally posted by: nestlewater
You're all n00bers to fighting games. BEST weapon is keyboard, it is like having a joystick but you will have perfect inputs because you're hitting each switch, left down right up. vs a joystick where the gate might cause you to drop an input.

I have a Hori HRAP modded with the sanwa arcade buttons. which I will NOT be using for the PC version, because just cuz i spent 120 bux on the thing doesn't make it better than a keyboard.

Keyboard FTW

I can understand that. I've never seen it done though. What buttons do you use? ie, how do you bind your inputs?

 

[nestlewater]

Originally posted by: pennylane

Originally posted by: nestlewater
You're all n00bers to fighting games. BEST weapon is keyboard, it is like having a joystick but you will have perfect inputs because you're hitting each switch, left down right up. vs a joystick where the gate might cause you to drop an input.

I have a Hori HRAP modded with the sanwa arcade buttons. which I will NOT be using for the PC version, because just cuz i spent 120 bux on the thing doesn't make it better than a keyboard.

Keyboard FTW

I can understand that. I've never seen it done though. What buttons do you use? ie, how do you bind your inputs?

Depending on whether the keyboard you use has issues with Simultaneous key presses. I use wasd as the direction, and the keypad 6-9 for lp mp hp, lk mk hk.
Never drop a combo.

 

[aceO07]

nestlewater, how about diagonal directions? Spinning 360s on the keyboard? How about 2 in 1s?

I usually use my keyboard for SF2 on mame, but it's only really for some characters. Combos take a lot more effort. Forget about doing a crouching sonicboom or a spinning piledriver..

Do you have any feedback on how the arcade stick is with mame? Wonder if it's close to the real arcade experience.

 

[SuPrEIVIE]

heh on the pc its so easy to cheat as well, if you got the gear you can just macro all these ridiculously complicated moves with a press of a button LOL i mean look at the Tiger knee attack by Sagat thats too complicated especially when we are talking about during the heat of a battle. Thats one reason that hurts the old school fighting games cause actually rendering the moves when you want to shouldnt be the hardest part of the game. It should be simplified like the super smash bros games where you dont have to worry about messing up a special attack due to complicated moves.

 

[WraithETC]

Originally posted by: SuPrEIVIE
heh on the pc its so easy to cheat as well, if you got the gear you can just macro all these ridiculously complicated moves with a press of a button LOL i mean look at the Tiger knee attack by Sagat thats too complicated especially when we are talking about during the heat of a battle. Thats one reason that hurts the old school fighting games cause actually rendering the moves when you want to shouldnt be the hardest part of the game. It should be simplified like the super smash bros games where you dont have to worry about messing up a special attack due to complicated moves.

Dang all these 6 year olds I see play must have super dexterity than because shit they can pull off tiger knee and even hadouken!

Imagine that! Maybe someday they'll be able to hold things without dropping them while breathing at the same time since thats just as complicated.

 

[nestlewater]

Originally posted by: aceO07
nestlewater, how about diagonal directions? Spinning 360s on the keyboard? How about 2 in 1s?

I usually use my keyboard for SF2 on mame, but it's only really for some characters. Combos take a lot more effort. Forget about doing a crouching sonicboom or a spinning piledriver..

Do you have any feedback on how the arcade stick is with mame? Wonder if it's close to the real arcade experience.

The diagonals depend on the game. CERTAIN fighting games will read a quick transition like down, right, and insert a diagonal for you if the transition was quick, So in ways it's assuming you wanted quater circle forward.

The only other type, is you must input down, downright, right. This might seem like alot of work but it's a VERY fluid motion. Think how a joystick makes these moves as they only have 4 microswitches just like what you're using. It hits the down key, while that happens it engages the right key, then lets go of the down key. In practice this is actually very easy.

AND on ARCADE Experience." If thats what you WANT, then buy an arcade stick, the BETTER tool will still be a keyboard or any other device that lets you engage the microswitches perfectly and with NO TRAVEL (STICK) which is delay essentially whatsoever.

The delay is the time it takes for the stick to engage the microswitch, only a split second, but fighting games are broken down to 1/30th of a second 2 frames, very often, so it DOES make a bit of a difference. ON AN arcade stick, you have to move the stick before you hit strong punch/kick, for a throw, very slightly, on keyboard no such issue, just hit forward/back with strong punch/kick simultaneously. ONE OF THE BIGGEST Advantages.

We're arguing tools here, not Experience of the player, or traditions.

Edit: Oh, and if this game does come out for the PC with HIGH resolution support 25x16 etc, All this slitting of my wrists and worshiping satan would be worth it. Ha, I also had to look up how to spell satan