Street Fighter 5 exclusive to PS4 and PC

[cmdrdredd]

I haven't been a capcom fan since devil may cry and onimusha. I still like street fighter but capcom themselves are just all around stupid IMO.

 

[mmntech]

When I saw his video, it reminded me a lot of what I read about Sega of America vs. Sega of Japan, and how they are two completely different cultures.

According to that Console Wars book, Tom Kalinske and his team constantly fought with SOJ. Had Yuji Naka and head office gotten their way, Sonic likely would have failed globally. Kalinske was also against releasing the Saturn early in North America, but SOJ did it anyway. Look how that faired out. Funny how Sonic took his nosedive after Kalinske left.

The biggest problem with Japanese business is that it's rigidly hierarchical to the point where leaders are completely closed to listening to advice from subordinates. Even if said subordinate is an expert on the subject. That might work if you're building say washing machines, but it doesn't fly in creative fields where collaboration is critical.

The other problem, as I mentioned earlier, is Japanese game publishers focus too heavily on the Japanese market. Which was fine 20 years ago, when nobody was making consoles or console games in North America. Today, you just can't do that as a major publisher. You have to think globally.

There are a few people in the Japanese industry who get it. Shigeru Miyamoto is a biggie. Though Nintendo's management has certainly been making their own share of boneheaded decisions lately. They went through their own dispute with the let's play community. Sure, they are making money off something they didn't create. It's free advertising though.

Social media is absolutely critical for game marketers today. Yet despite being such a technical industry, it's handled shockingly poorly. You have to handle any potential negative fallout from decisions and try to rectify it in a polite and constructive manner. Especially if you know it's going to anger a lot of your customer base. I know, I've done brand building on social before. Was damn good at it too before the company went belly up due to boneheaded decisions by upper management. So I'm painfully aware of what causes these businesses to implode.

Dropping the A-Bomb on critics like Capcom did is the single worst thing you can do, thanks to a little thing called the Streisand Effect. The more you try to cover something up, the more it gets shared, and the worse you look for doing it.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Phil Spencer via twitter said something along the lines of. "We have our own first party fighting game and that's where our support will be." He also added "We can't buy everything"

Something like that. I couldn't find the exact quote.

 

[smackababy]

A lot of Japanese companies are really stupid when it comes to copyright stuff. Nintendo actually told EVO they weren't allowed to stream SSB when it had won a fan donation drive to get in. Eventually, an appeal to Nintendo had them relent, but it was the principle stupid stuff.

 

[gus6464]

The Xbone fanboyism is rampant in this thread. I don't even own a PS4 but do own an Xbone. Face it kids, no SF5 on Xbone, although Super SF5 might come to Xbone a year later.

PS4 is destroying Xbone in sales in EU and Asia, add to that a monetary incentive from Sony you have to be real stupid to not make it exclusive. Add to that PC release and cross-play with PS4 online and that's the icing on the cake. Microsoft consoles have never been a fighter's console so it's obvious they could care less.

 

[purbeast0]

The Xbone fanboyism is rampant in this thread. I don't even own a PS4 but do own an Xbone. Face it kids, no SF5 on Xbone, although Super SF5 might come to Xbone a year later.

PS4 is destroying Xbone in sales in EU and Asia, add to that a monetary incentive from Sony you have to be real stupid to not make it exclusive. Add to that PC release and cross-play with PS4 online and that's the icing on the cake. Microsoft consoles have never been a fighter's console so it's obvious they could care less.

lolwut?

 

[gus6464]

lolwut?

Means get it over it. SF5 is not coming to Xbone no matter how much you bitch and moan about it. As for the whole EVO thing that is always attached to a specific game. MS paid to have a specific game played on their console. This was a smart move by Sony as now it guarantees them a showing at EVO not only with SF5 but also a showing with the new BlazBlue Xrd SIGN.

It's coming to PC anyway so I could care less as my fightstick works on Xbone and PC, PS3, etc.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Means get it over it. SF5 is not coming to Xbone no matter how much you bitch and moan about it. As for the whole EVO thing that is always attached to a specific game. MS paid to have a specific game played on their console. This was a smart move by Sony as now it guarantees them a showing at EVO not only with SF5 but also a showing with the new BlazBlue Xrd SIGN.

It's coming to PC anyway so I could care less as my fightstick works on Xbone and PC, PS3, etc.

What thread are you even reading?

 

[purbeast0]

Means get it over it. SF5 is not coming to Xbone no matter how much you bitch and moan about it. As for the whole EVO thing that is always attached to a specific game. MS paid to have a specific game played on their console. This was a smart move by Sony as now it guarantees them a showing at EVO not only with SF5 but also a showing with the new BlazBlue Xrd SIGN.

It's coming to PC anyway so I could care less as my fightstick works on Xbone and PC, PS3, etc.

get over what? no one isn't over anything. everyone knows that vanilla sf5 isn't coming to xbox1. just like vanilla sf4 was a console exclusive and never came to pc.

you should try reading before getting butthurt about things.

the majority of us having this discussion own both consoles so it really doesn't affect any of us.

but continue to cry if it makes you feel better.

oh, and how much less could you care? 5%? 50%? 100%?

 

[railven]

How this thread played out:
"SF5 coming to PS4 and PC only"
"No way, not gonna happen, Xbone version gonna happen."
"Confirmed PS4 console version only."
"What? later versions will come, you'll see."
"Capcom is such a shit company."
"Not buying SF5, not with how Capcom is acting."

Yeaaaaaah, I think Gus is right on the money. Look at the post count, only one person is pretty much being neutral of the top 3 posters and majority of his posts aren't bashing Capcom.

 

[purbeast0]

How this thread played out:
"SF5 coming to PS4 and PC only"
"No way, not gonna happen, Xbone version gonna happen."
"Confirmed PS4 console version only."
"What? later versions will come, you'll see."
"Capcom is such a shit company."
"Not buying SF5, not with how Capcom is acting."

Yeaaaaaah, I think Gus is right on the money. Look at the post count, only one person is pretty much being neutral of the top 3 posters and majority of his posts aren't bashing Capcom.

you clearly don't know capcoms history with sf4 (or maybe sf games in general). it was the same shit where sf4 was console exclusive. they said it is never going to come to pc. then super sf4 was created and came to pc, and every version thereafter did.

capcom is a business and wants as much money as they can get (nothing wrong with that). there is absolutely no reason they will not put the later iterations on xbox1, it would be completely stupid for them financially to NOT do so.

and there WILL be later iterations. sf2, sf3, and sf4 have ALL had later iterations. you remember when sf2 was super nintendo exclusive? then a later champion edition came out on genesis.

enjoying capcom games has nothing to do with capcom being a shit company.

im about 99% sure i will be buying sf5 day 1 and will probably even preorder the special edition like i did sf4.

 

[railven]

you clearly don't know capcoms history with sf4 (or maybe sf games in general). it was the same shit where sf4 was console exclusive. they said it is never going to come to pc. then super sf4 was created and came to pc, and every version thereafter did.

capcom is a business and wants as much money as they can get (nothing wrong with that). there is absolutely no reason they will not put the later iterations on xbox1, it would be completely stupid for them financially to NOT do so.

and there WILL be later iterations. sf2, sf3, and sf4 have ALL had later iterations. you remember when sf2 was super nintendo exclusive? then a later champion edition came out on genesis.

You clearly don't know me.

enjoying capcom games has nothing to do with capcom being a shit company.

You're right, it doesn't, but I wasn't making that comparison. I just read this thread and gave my summary of the thread from my observation.

 

[TheSlamma]

Crapcom used to be so good in the NES days.. but wow talk about a company that cannot program or do UX to save their lives. Especially the user interface, Word Perfect 5.1 was more intuitive even without the keyboard stencil

 

[purbeast0]

here is an extended trailer with charlie being revealed at the end.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ay-IUE6WlAo

here's the gameplay exhibition from today at capcom cup.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIdnJQZ_lkg

after seeing that gameplay, it gets a big fat "meh" from me. i expected it to be faster than sf4, but it appears to be the same speed, if not slower. i know it's really early, but that is all we have to go on right now.

 

[smackababy]

Eh, they only showed Ryu and Chun, both not really fast characters. Neither player really looks like they knew any combos either.

I can't say I was impressed with how it looks, but it isn't finished and we are already pretty close to how realistic we want a 2D fighter to look.

I am interested in how strict the inputs are. I actually didn't like easy inputs on SF4.

I do hope Peter has input on it though. He understands balance and fighting games a lot better than most of Capcom, I'm sure.

 

[DilipVasan]

I hope they launch Xbox one version too

 

[purbeast0]

oh and the game is 20% complete according to capcom. so probably really about 5% complete. not a chance we see this in 2015.

 

[tential]

get over what? no one isn't over anything. everyone knows that vanilla sf5 isn't coming to xbox1. just like vanilla sf4 was a console exclusive and never came to pc.

you should try reading before getting butthurt about things.

the majority of us having this discussion own both consoles so it really doesn't affect any of us.

but continue to cry if it makes you feel better.

oh, and how much less could you care? 5%? 50%? 100%?

It's exclusive... for a limited time only!

 

[Sonikku]

Street Fighter 5 might be lost, but Super Street Fighter 5 Turbo Championship edition on the other hand...

 

[purbeast0]

yesterday they revealed nash with a bison teaser at the end of the trailer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JT-IvFkUhA

not a big fan of the changes they made to the lighting as a whole. i liked the more serious tone of the more "realistic" lighting before. now it just looks more cartoony with the characters being much brighter compared to the backgrounds.

game still looks slow as hell though...

 

[sweenish]

Given how similar the architectures are, I would guess that Sony had to pay close to expected Xbox One sales to ensure exclusivity.

Capcom made their money. But they haven't been a good dev house for years.

 

[mizzou]

I hope they launch Xbox one version too

I fully suspect that since the majority of third party publishers will furnish the product on all capable systems...this is only a timed exclusive

Otherwise, get it for your PC .


I completely lost interest in the franchise after Street Fighter 2 anyway. It's getting way too complicated for me to learn combos and everything.

 

[IHateMyJob2004]

I have a hard time believing it will be PS4 only. Capcom would be incredibly stupid to cut out the Xbox One entirely. It might have some console specific DLC or unlockable character though.

If Sony pays you $X to avoid system Y and you end up making more money so be it. If anything, it is a hedge against it flopping once you go exclusive to one system.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Well they also recently announced that at EVO , Ultra Street Fighter 4 will be played on PS4 consoles even though the game has yet to be released. They also said that loaner sticks will be available to players who do not own a stick for the PS4. So this lends more credibility to Sony dishing out some cash to get exclusive deals for Street Fighter.

 

[whateverid]

What about PS3 T_T