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Strange SETI problem

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poopaskoopa

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I've decided to run SETI on my mother's new PC(XP2000 CPU, KT333 with 512mb RAM!:Q), so I got the CLI, Seti Driver, and Firedaemon to run it as a service. I made sure that the client was running on low priority. When the machine boots up, the service starts up. The problem is that the machine is clearly sluggish, and if I stop the service, the problem goes away and the PC becomes quite responsive again. So I removed the service and uninstalled Firedaemon, and set SETI Driver to start from a HKLM\Software\Windows\Current Version\Run key, but the problem persists. The really strange part is that the machine is sluggish when SETI starts up with the machine, but if I stop SETI and restart it, the machine does NOT get sluggish. I did this on 2 machines, both are XP2000/KT333 machines, but only one is affected. The one in question uses a Shuttle board, and the other one(the one without the problem) is on an Asus board. Any ideas? Oh, both machines are running Win2K. Thanks. 🙂
 
I'd check the Startup in the System Configuration Utility and see what items are not necessary. There may be something running on the Shuttle system that has led to the problem.
 
What other software are you running? AVG antivirus under Win 2K perhaps? I have that same problem and as far as I know there is no workaround. If you look at the CPU utilization, you will see that a program called Winlogon is taking up all the CPU time. For some reason it doesn't close with both AVG and SETI running at startup under Win 2K. I haven't ever found a workaround, so I just put a shortcut to SETI on the desktop and start it that way.



Hope that helps.



Swan
 
Originally posted by: Swanny
What other software are you running? AVG antivirus under Win 2K perhaps? I have that same problem and as far as I know there is no workaround. If you look at the CPU utilization, you will see that a program called Winlogon is taking up all the CPU time. For some reason it doesn't close with both AVG and SETI running at startup under Win 2K. I haven't ever found a workaround, so I just put a shortcut to SETI on the desktop and start it that way.



Hope that helps.



Swan
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You're right that I have AVG on. I didn't think about that because I have AVG on my 2 PCs at home, and I don't experience this problem. When I look at the processes, CLI is taking up all the CPU time, even though the priority is set to low.
 
This has been a problem in the past, I have had it severely and I am trying to remember what I did about it.
Here are a couple of threads discussing it (or something like it):

http://forums.anandtech.com/arcmessageview.cfm?catid=39&threadid=926092

http://forums.anandtech.com/arcmessageview.cfm?catid=39&threadid=832202

One thing I found that was a severe problem was some bad interaction between an nvidia driver set and the rest of my system, after changing drivers those troubles went away. I'm not sure if this was related to the startup issue.

I currently run AVG, Win XP pro and Seti Driver, Cli, Seti Spy, Seti Watch & Seti Q with no slowdown issues.
I also have a Win 2K system on which I am running AVG, Seti Driver, Cli, Seti Spy starting Seti Spy with FireDaemon.
I have Seti Spy set to start Seti Driver which starts the Cli.

I remember this issue was driving me friggin' nuts for a while, I would have to kill seti and restart it every time the machine restarted just to be able to use the system.

Now it's all working great, I just wish I could remember what was done to resolve it. I will search some more archived messages and post them if I find it.

Don't give up, I know this can be fixed. 😉
 
I have a similar situation with my Asus A7V MB, 1Ghz TBird, GEForce 256 on Win2K. I've got SETI installed as a service (SETI CLI only no SETIDRIVER). When I reboot, the PC is at first sluggish. After about 3 to 5 minutes, everything settles down and I have no more problems.

I had the same problem when it was a Duron 650@850 and running SETIDRIVER as a service. Only it took longer to settle down, sometimes I had to log off, then log on again for it to settle down.

After it settles down, I don't notice SETI running at all. Even when playing games.

Oh, I'm running AVG and ZA as well.

Only time it's a pain is when I'm in a hurry to do something, otherwise I just wait. 🙂 And try to minimize my reboots. 🙂
 
heheheh... sounds kinda zen there Ray....

The computer is busy, the good user is patient.

There's lots of info about interactions between Office 2k & seti start up slowness and interferance but this isn't really the issue.
Still, make sure you don't have "Offline folders" running in Outlook 2K.

 
Hmm ,dunno what the problem is there😕

Swanny
I just have a shortcut to CLi in the startup folder in Win2k ,works fine for me🙂 ,though I don't have AVG.

poopaskoopa
Totally seperate issue ,but did you know the A7V333 (thats the 1 your mothers rig has got right?)has the vdimm voltage seto to 2.8xv by default!?:Q
If hers still is you might want to lower it 😉 ,ask if you want more info.

Ray
Bet you didn't know that you could run an XP Tbred processor in your A7V!😀
 
I don't know much about the timings involved with the way win2k starts things up but I had a similar problem and solved it by installing AVG first then firing up the seti install (after fresh win2k install and service packs). I don't know if there is a way to "delay" seti's startup or not but putting a delay would certainly help solve these issues so the rest of the things that startup can do so without seti hogging the cpu.

Just observation.

CkG
 
I'm wondering if it might have been installing SP3 on W2K that solved the issue for me - something to try...

The Win OS deal is such a duck soup, I was so surprised that installing a newer detonator driver on my Win XP machine solved a problem that was literally driving me insane. An you never can tell if what you are doing makes things wors or better until later. Geez, give me a revolver with one shot in six and I'd feel a lot better 😉




Of course I'd be aiming at the computer 😀
 
Thanks for the response y'all 😀.
I did install all the patches and SP3 before I did anything else with the sluggish machine(the shuttle). Furthermore, the PC has a S3 Savage 4 card, so unfortunately the Detonator fix does not apply to me. 🙁 Since I live a few hours away from my parents, and I didn't want my mother to suffer a slow PC, SETI no longer starts upon boot-up. 🙁 But until their IP changes, I'll have VNC access, and it's running at the moment 😉
 
lol Wiz😉

Poop
Does she use her PC at regular times? If so you could have SETI started by 'Task Schedular',better than nothing
 
Install as a service, set service to NOT start at boot, then set Task Schedular to start service every half hour 😛

Should hold you over until you find the problem.. 🙂
 
My guess is that the client is set on a higher priority than it's suppose to be. I had this happen to me once during a service install, I had to remove the service and re-install with some changes.

check in your task manager, right click on seti.exe or whatever it happens to be called and check the priority. if it's set to anything medium or above, you've found the problem.

my best guess.
 
I'm not at all enthused with Shuttle boards! I have always had trouble configuring them.
Lets try to stick with the solid ones. Asus, Gigabyte, Abit, Intel 🙂P)
 
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