Strange relationship between boolean logic (binary) and energy...

[Soros]

Actually if Zero is an object, it is a shape

ALLcreate shape(0-object) 0 Then zero contains numbers, since it is a shape, represented by data. Or would you care to dispute that? if zero is a number, then it is an object, and objects have boundaries, and boundaries have... what? existance.

 

[Soros]

Originally posted by: firewolfsm
Ugh. REATARDS.

Yes zero exists.

Yes, every number can be expressed as a damn function, so? We're not graphing.

And 10 is short for 1+1+1 etc.

We know all this.

You're not proving anything.

You're just being flat out wrong from time to time.

You've misunderstood my post, in boolean logic there is only one function
+(true exist
-(true exist)

Because the all-exist is an ALL exist, all of the time it is a self-recursive function, if it wasn't
we couldn't do things like

1 = 1 (all 1's = all 1's)

All- obect = object
all 1 = 1
all 2 = 2, etc.

or binary 1=1

Since that would look like

ALL binary(1)'s are equal to all binary(1)'s all the time. truth.

Null is A psuedo value that means a column contains nothing. This is distinct from an empty string, zero, or any other possible data value.

 

[Nathelion]

Right now I'm drawing an unshapely blob on a piece of paper. From this moment on I define that unshapely blob to represent 0. From this moment on I also define a blank paper to mean 1.
It seems to me that your system would have a bit of trouble with this? What is the "boundary" of nothing, which is now representing 1?

Anyway, what is your level of education? I can't really decide whether to take you seriously without knowing that. Some of what you say is true, even insightful; much of the rest is total mumbo-jumbo or the kind of metaphysics that would be dreamed up by a hyperactive high-schooler. Also, is english your first language?

 

[alpha88]

Please see my first post, Section B.

 

[Qacer]

Originally posted by: Nathelion
Right now I'm drawing an unshapely blob on a piece of paper. From this moment on I define that unshapely blob to represent 0. From this moment on I also define a blank paper to mean 1.
It seems to me that your system would have a bit of trouble with this? What is the "boundary" of nothing, which is now representing 1?

Anyway, what is your level of education? I can't really decide whether to take you seriously without knowing that. Some of what you say is true, even insightful; much of the rest is total mumbo-jumbo or the kind of metaphysics that would be dreamed up by a hyperactive high-schooler. Also, is english your first language?

But you forgot that the unshapely blob is an irregular shape with boundaries that can be represented by numbers. Therefore, you really can't represent nothingness. LOL.

Seriously, I think if the OP explained and properly defined his syntax, then I would find it less difficult to read. I suspect that he is assuming that everyone knows his terms.

 

[Born2bwire]

Originally posted by: Gannon

Originally posted by: alpha88
Pi is a number. It doesn't change. It doesn't grow. It's not moving.

Just because we don't know all of the digits (nor can we), doesn't mean that it isn't a number.

Actually, yes it is, the "number" is not, because pi is not ONE number, it is MANY numbers.
(many objects) a new number is a new object, new objects don't get created if the function that creates them are stationary, do they?

Pi is a SELF-RECURSIVE number, it is both a number and a function.


I'll give you another function, very easy...

2/3 = 0.666 (repeated) on to infinity.

Fine just change bases. I'm going to count in base 3, then 1/3 = .3333... = .1 base 3. Now it's a single number. Pi? Choose base Pi, then Pi = 1.

 

[Soros]

Originally posted by: Born2bwire

Originally posted by: Gannon

Originally posted by: alpha88
Pi is a number. It doesn't change. It doesn't grow. It's not moving.

Just because we don't know all of the digits (nor can we), doesn't mean that it isn't a number.

(soros = This is gannon @ work)

Actually, yes it is, the "number" is not, because pi is not ONE number, it is MANY numbers.
(many objects) a new number is a new object, new objects don't get created if the function that creates them are stationary, do they?

Pi is a SELF-RECURSIVE number, it is both a number and a function.


I'll give you another function, very easy...

2/3 = 0.666 (repeated) on to infinity.

Fine just change bases. I'm going to count in base 3, then 1/3 = .3333... = .1 base 3. Now it's a single number. Pi? Choose base Pi, then Pi = 1.

Yeah but the BASE is the number+function as well... for instance..

1/2 is a 2 base number

so 1/3 = 0.333 issimply

1/3 (/ 1/3

the number equales itself 1/3 = 1/3 is what you just wrote.

Or the number is equal to the number.

You didn't "change" anything, you just made the number+function reflect itself

Imagine you had a spinning saw and two mirrors , that's what you have just done by changing the base.

As you can see it is a complex topic and I have not had the time to define the terms, but I will get back to the thread when I have time, I really need to post a visualization of what is occuring, instead of just writing words.

"If I can't visualize it, I can't understand it" -- Albert Einstein.

 

[firewolfsm]

0 can't be defined by a shape because it is the absence of one. It's not THAT hard to imagine nothing.

And boolean logic is a simplified system made for computers, it was never meant to apply to real life, because it can't.

Quantum mechanics could never be expressed in boolean or binary logic. So this logic can't apply to energy as we currently define it.

 

[Soros]

Originally posted by: firewolfsm
0 can't be defined by a shape because it is the absence of one. It's not THAT hard to imagine nothing.

And boolean logic is a simplified system made for computers, it was never meant to apply to real life, because it can't.

Quantum mechanics could never be expressed in boolean or binary logic. So this logic can't apply to energy as we currently define it.

Actually you're wrong once again.

When you write a zero you are saying

One(Empty number) Zero is a number, then it is a concept, if it is a concept then it is a number.

Think of a square FULLY BLACK, now a zero in would be a square with an empty white area representing "no (one-object)boxes"

When you say zero, zero itself is an object, or else you couldn't think of it as a number.

The boundary itself is actually the plane in which zero exists, it exists on a piece of paper, or on this page, etc. That image of zero exists somewhere, otherwise zero couldn't exist.

The number Zero is not a "non existant" it is an an "empty exist- object"

So we'll call it an ALL-EMPTY-OBJECT.

 

[firewolfsm]

any comment on the other points I brought up?

and I'm not sure about 0, but what I said still makes sense to me, as zero isn't positive or negative.

Actually, how would you represent negative numbers bu your diagram?

 

[Soros]

Originally posted by: firewolfsm
any comment on the other points I brought up?

and I'm not sure about 0, but what I said still makes sense to me, as zero isn't positive or negative.

Actually, how would you represent negative numbers bu your diagram?

(Gannon @ work)

I will have to animate it in full 3D to show the relationships, when I get the time, I'm going to have to pull out 3DS max or maya and have a friend write a script for me and then give me the render, I will post it on youtube once I got it all worked out. For now I've got stuff I got to get done, but I will get back to this thread...

Believe me sent me on a loop to figure this stuff out, and so far I haven't seen any gaps in the logic.

It's the strangeness of the boolean and the concept of numbers, and their relation to shapes and colors that I'm trying to elucidate.

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[Gannon]

Originally posted by: Nathelion
Anyway, what is your level of education? I can't really decide whether to take you seriously without knowing that. Some of what you say is true, even insightful; much of the rest is total mumbo-jumbo or the kind of metaphysics that would be dreamed up by a hyperactive high-schooler. Also, is english your first language?

First you have to understand I have 'memory problems', there is a problem with my memory system which "cross links" data in odd ways, as if I had frayed wires... I figured this out when I took the WAIS-3 (weschler adult intelligence test)

I see patterns and relationships I myself don?t fully understand until I take the time to put the pieces together, and I only see them as visual metaphors (animations and pictures that just come into my mind automatically). And I just get this strong overwhelming feeling I just know that they have some kind of similar pattern (partial pattern) that is similar to something else. Sometimes I get stuck in ?pattern loops? that seems like crazy metaphysics but it?s not, it?s my lack of physics education that makes it sound strange, like I am some crazy highschooler? I have a University education, so no I am not stupid...

To describe the problem for you... I just have memory problems where things will get cross-linked or their positions switched or incorrect. For instance, sometimes when I go to say or express myself, I will say something that sounds crazy like say I want to respond to a store clerks question, when she asks ?What are you looking for?? I might say something like ?I feel strange?, when what I meant was ?I don?t know yet!? my mind will pull the wrong data and send it to my motor cortex and it?s something I?ve learned over the years of having to deal with people, once in a while I do that, it's not all the time.. but often enough for me to notice it. It?s like two numbers positions getting switched or mixed up when pulled from a database. Or data getting corrupted...

Imagine a frayed DSL wire, that's what my brain is like, it has "frayed connections" in places, as I like to call it. I hope you understand why it seems like english is not my first language. It is, it's just that I will get stuck in "visual space" where I am trying to grasp what my mind is telling me and if I don't do a good job it will come out - mumbo jumbo... haha... Hope that clears things up!