Storage/back up question

kleinkinstein

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Can the "canned" overpriced eHdd. Just pick yourself up a high performance 3TB Barracuda for $140 and a Rosewell enclosure with usb 3.0 and esata. You'll be good to go for years and years of portable storage and backups.
 

blastingcap

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OP's linked HDD is much smaller and if it can run off even USB 2 power let along USB 3, so much the better. No bulky adapter. That kind of stuff is important for mobile users who want something portable.

Furthermore Seagate's 3TB internal has only a 1 year warranty, 2400 hour duty per year rating, and if you wanted one with an enclosure you could buy Seagates 3TB drive that comes with an enclosure and USB 3 for LESS than the bare drive. And though the drive inside may be a lower-binned model it's the same model. (Newegg had the Seagate 3TB USB 3 for $127 with +1 year warranty but I've seen enough of Seagate to decline that deal. I got a pair of Toshiba Canvio Desk 3TBs for the same price and they come with built-in 3 year warranty from the get-go, plus they have Hitachi bloodlines, which makes me trust them more than Seagate.)

Although you are right about the OP's drive being ovepriced (at least on a per-GB basis), I've seen some of your "advice" klein, that does not stand up to scrutiny. That doesn't help people asking questions.
 
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kleinkinstein

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So then you have no personal experience with Seagate. Good thing, because they don't fail. From experience, I've had one baddies from over 150 buys here at the DC. Nice self stroke of yourself, but do it in private next time. It's no joy for us trying to help.
 

sigurros81

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I really was just wondering why some external HDs have an AC adapter while some don't. I definitely need some backup storage that I could move between my office and my home, plug and play, that could quickly be accessed by both Macs and PC (my work computer is a Mac).
 

Phynaz

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I really was just wondering why some external HDs have an AC adapter while some don't.

Externals that are using desktop drives will require the AC adapter due to their higher power requirements. Externals using laptop drives can run off the few watts provided by USB.
 

blastingcap

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So then you have no personal experience with Seagate. Good thing, because they don't fail. From experience, I've had one baddies from over 150 buys here at the DC. Nice self stroke of yourself, but do it in private next time. It's no joy for us trying to help.

Nice attempt at deflecting, but I've had:

Seagate 7200.9, 10, 11, and 12 Barracuda drives, all 7200rpm IIRC.

The 11 failed after light use in under a year, and I sold the rest off as quickly as possible (the 9 and 10 coming from my gf's lightly-used desktop and surviving for ~2 years). Seagate used to be better but their quality has fallen off; same with everybody else but Seagate seems to have fallen hardest. They also offer the shortest warranties in the industry, which is not confidence inspiring. Nor is how they treated customers over the 7200.11 fiasco.

And Backblaze found that Hitachi 5k3000s were more reliable for them than Seagates and WDs.

In any case there are factual issues with your rec, including form factor and pricing, not just brand and warranty duration. For instance, I suspected the reason OP asked about that drive model was because it was a HDD specifically marketed as being portable. You could have made the same inference, or at least answered the OP's direction more directly, yet you ignored that and went right into recommending a drive of dubious warranty length at extra cost (internal + enclosure rather than Seagate's all-in-one for cheaper), and you did so without considering OP's portability needs.

I'm sorry if you take offense but I've noticed a trend of your giving bad/incomplete advice, not just in this post but others. Please treat it as constructive criticism (my suggestion that you do more research before "advising" others).
 
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sigurros81

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Externals that are using desktop drives will require the AC adapter due to their higher power requirements. Externals using laptop drives can run off the few watts provided by USB.

What would you recommend? I just want to back up my data (mostly my design projects, photography, and music). My home computer actually has USB 3.0.
 

exdeath

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GoFlex Pro 7200 are good, mostly a) because Seagate doesn't force you to use their bloatware. It's just regular software that you can delete, not baked into the firmware or on a undeletable partition or any of that nonsense. and b) the various cables work as standard USB adapters, they aren't propriety.

Those political reasons alone are why I like the GoFlex drives. In addition I prefer externals that don't require external power and if I HAVE to use a dino drive it needs to be the fastest one available in it's class (pull 120 MB/sec off my GoFlex Pro over USB 3 IIRC).
 

tweakboy

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Hi guys, I had a 1TB external HD(western digital) that died a few days ago. I'm looking to buy a replacement to back up my data. My question is, does it matter if my external back up have an AC adapter? What are the benefits of an AC adapter anyways?

I was going to buy a couple of these
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...=ATVPDKIKX0DER


Use the power cable it came with.

As for replacement

Grab a 1TB Samsung drive. green friendly if you want.
 

Dessert Tears

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My home computer actually has USB 3.0.
A USB 3.0 drive will be much faster than a 2.0 one. I was shopping for an external drive a few months ago, and there wasn't a huge price difference, if I remember correctly.

Since you will be moving the drive between sites (frequently?), a laptop drive will be more portable. I got a Western Digital MyPassport (2.5") for my sister because she didn't have a desk and was draping cables all over the couch. I have a few 3.5" externals including a Rosewill RX-358 U3C SLV USB3.0 enclosure, but they stay on or under my desk.

Make sure that you read reviews. WD drives come with permanent software: it doesn't have to be installed to use the drive, but it can't be deleted from the drive.
 

thestrangebrew1

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Not sure if this needs to be it's own topic but I'm in a similar situation where I'm not sure if a simple portable drive will work or if I should get one that's always on with an adapter. I've got my server (in my sig) and a Seagate eHDD 2tb that I use to back it up (primarily home videos & pics) but other than that I have no other back up. I was thinking of getting another hd to back up the Seagate in case my server AND the Seagate go out. I'd probably only use it to back up monthly. Which would be better?
 

Dessert Tears

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Not sure if this needs to be it's own topic but I'm in a similar situation where I'm not sure if a simple portable drive will work or if I should get one that's always on with an adapter. I've got my server (in my sig) and a Seagate eHDD 2tb that I use to back it up (primarily home videos & pics) but other than that I have no other back up. I was thinking of getting another hd to back up the Seagate in case my server AND the Seagate go out. I'd probably only use it to back up monthly. Which would be better?
Unless you're transporting it offsite (and once a month is not too often), a 3.5" should be fine. What do you mean by "always on"? A 3.5" external with separate power can be connected and disconnected. They're sometimes picky about the order (power then USB).

Make sure that you read reviews.
For example, the Seagate Expansion 500GB USB 3.0 Portable Hard Drive has complaints about needing a high power USB 2.0 port to run properly.
 

Phynaz

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What would you recommend? I just want to back up my data (mostly my design projects, photography, and music). My home computer actually has USB 3.0.

Whatever you find cheapest.

Although I will admit that mucking around with AC adapter is a pain.