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Stop the cycle of violence: free anti-war stickers

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SaidMohammed, I see you're from NYC - too bad you werent in the WTC on Sept 11th, perhaps you would have a different take on the issue then (if you lived)
 
Dhruv, so you agree with this "say no to war" bullsh*t?? Should we just bend over and let these terrorists hit us again? I assure you. If given the opportunity, they will strike again and 5,000 lives will be nothing to them.
 
SaidMohammed:

Removing the heads of states of countries who harbor terrorist breaks the cycle. Not allowing someone to kill 5000-7000 of your people and running around with anti-war stickers......

Innocent people will surely die, BUT it is their leaders choice not to work with the U.S. to end terrorism. So take this anti-war sticker and shove it up their a*s.....
 


<< It is my intent to keep this post on topic. >>

This post was never on-topic, your original post wasnt a deal never mind a hot deal - printing out a sign and making a sticker out of it? Gee that really is hot - not



<< For the critics: if you are ignorant enough as to advocate war, I encourage you to PM me with your views. >>

If you are ignorant enough to advocate not taking action I encourage you to get a clue



<< I will be more than glad to expound upon the fact that employing military force out of anger, for purposes of retaliation or to satisfy domestic outrage is unlawful >>

Really - what law is that?

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<< Again, PM me so we can keep this post on topic. This is a hot deals board, not a political discussion board; people do not come here to be proselytized. >>

xactly, so whats with your original post which was NOT a hot-deal but instead a very thinly veiled political message???
 
Does turning afghanistan into a glass parking lot count as war if there really isn't anything they can do to stop it?
Either way, i'm all for stopping war, to me that means disabling your enemy to the point where he can no longer fight back.

Neat stickers though, do they have the variation without the red circle and cross out thing?
 
TO KILL OR NOT TO KILL:

Let's think about this for a second. The Vice President and the President later informed us that after the attacks they had made it clear that they would shoot down any CIVILIAN aircraft that posed a threat. I don't know a single American who said this was wrong. Even the Americans onboard the Penn. plane sacrificed their lives to save fellow Americans. By agreeing to shoot down our own Civilians we accepted that collateral damage at the cost of saving countless more American lives.

We are in the same situation in saving more lives of not just Americans but citizens on countries all over the world. I don't think that any of us wish for Afghan civilians to die. Though, we can't allow evil to shield itself behind potential collateral damage. The above paragraph is to illustrate that we practive what we preach. We were willing to take collateral damage of our own civilians to save American lives. There could have been a plane that got shot down without hostages if it mistakely was off course.

Those Afghan children are the future of that country. I want to point out that I am not for killing children. Though I am for war when it stops tryants and saves lives. Back to those children being the future of that country, sadly many of them are raised to hate all who are not one of their fold. I've seen documentaries where these children say horrible wicked evil things of murder and hate. They sadly are conditioned like this because they get much reward for this behaviour. So when we see these children and adults celebrating every evil murder of innocent people (be it citizens of Israel, U.S. or other country) you have to ask yourself do these people pose a threat. I say yes, because most of the these suicide murders are nothing more that your average citizen who takes that hate and evil to another level. As you may know everyone one of these suicide terrorists was once one of those hate filled evil speaking children. (Yes I know that not all of the current population reacted the same but the masses did)

Ask yourself this question:
Knowing now what you do of history would you have approved of the killing of Hilter when he was a child (the time of innocence) or even in babyhood?

Well those of some thoughts to add.....
 
"Knowing now what you do of history would you have approved of the killing of Hilter when he was a child (the time of innocence) or even in babyhood?"

That's a stupid question. Honestly, it really is. You're creating a hypothetical situation which NONE of us would have been placed in - any of us. Therefore, it doesn't prove anything.

As far as the "war" goes, I have no problem with wiping out terrorists. However, civilian casualties are a COMPLETELY different story.
 
Yeah, violence begets violence.
Stop the cycle by exterminating all terrorists!

Had those 'violent' american GIs not joined the WWII, my homeland would be still under the 'pacifist' japanese empire :disgust:

Vigilanteism is against the law, but it is unlawful for the government not to ensure that justice is served.

 
Hey Novon, "turning the other cheek" will only buy us another Boeing 757 up our ass. Maybe several Boeings.

---
Novon's sig:

"There is no revenge so complete as forgiveness."

"In taking revenge, a man is but even with his enemy; but in passing it over, he is superior."
 
Ok here goes my $ .02 because I am wound up just like everyone else.

1. The terrorist attack on WTC/Pent. CANNOT go unpunished, with that in mind WE must determine exactly who is responsible for these actions.
2. I personally feel that anti-war stickers are not such a good idea at least now, but I am in favor of the flag idea others have suggested.
3. Having served in the military I DO understand what family and friends of the active duty military are feeling and I do pray for you and yours !
4. I DO NOT believe in GUILT BY ASSOCIATION, while this is a touchy subject escpecially since the terrorist did enter this country and sort of blend in, I do not believe there should be hate crimes against Muslims or Arabs etc... in this country or against the innocent people in whatever country we go to war with.
5. The true heart of evil is the terrorist and those that harbor them, these are the people that should be eliminated with extreme preduice and hate. If I see one more "person" dancing around on CNN celebrating what happened and burning a US flag I am going to puke. These are the BAST*RDS that HAVE to PAY period.
6. This is real people not just an chance for brave talk "hell ya lets nuke the piss outta them boys",imagine YOU are the person on the front line and your view may change somewhat!
7. Everyone hold on for a bumpy ride !

<stepping down from soapbox now> 🙂

Thank you !




 
go SaidMohammed!

Liberal or conservative, who cares. Ill be getting peace sticker soon. ITs people like iliopsoas that make me sick, brain dead idiots that go and crash thir truck in a musk (spelling) or shoot some mideastern looking kid. There aint no war, its all media bull$hit. It was a terorist attack, and noone really knows who did that. Ya know what, why dont we nuke the living stuff outta all the other countris, this way we'll know theres gonna be no more terrorists. Sometimes i wonder where all the bright americans went

Just got an idea - why dont you all war-crazy kid go and join the army. Put yo money where yo mouth is. Ive from centeral europe originally and i've seen kosovoa and yugoslavia. Its not pretty and most of the people there didnt have anythign to do with the conflict. Im pretty sure that if you start whacking people in mid east, they'll start whacking people here. They wont go out and fight the army, thats suicide. Better just start bombing more us cities till we all give up
 
iliopsoas,

I know ther are alot of terrorist in Albuquerque who call themselves "militia men."

I think we should follow your logc and bomb the whole state of New Mexico. Lets start with your house.




 
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For the critics: if you are ignorant enough as to advocate war, I encourage you to PM me with your views.

buddy.....it is all in the open.....you gave sh*t and got it back in return......no need to PM guys like you.


I will be more than glad to expound upon the fact that employing military force out of anger, for purposes of retaliation or to satisfy domestic outrage is unlawful and does nothing to end terrorism.

Anger is right when justified as in this case.
Retaiation is not war - just a response to war !!!!!
As for satisfying domestic outrage - buddy you forget that USA didn't even bother with the existance of Afghanistan b'for that fuker wen there.


Massive bombing continues the cycle of violence that invariably creates sympathizers who become the new terrorist.


so what !!!! that doesn't mean that you let a rapist go in the fear that his child will perhaps rape your daughter in revenge someday !!!!!
this is crazy logic you are putting forward.
It si a well known saying in my country that steel is cut by steel only !!!!


War will make us more vulnerable.


No it doesn't - look how we Indians are kicking the sh*t out of these fukers everyday ........ sadly they still keep coming. When will they ever learn.


In the wake of the embassy bombing in East Africa the U.S. used military tactics striking Afghanistan and a pharmaceutical plant in the Sudan killing innocent people. This did not stop or even slow terrorism. Arguably, those actions may have sown the seeds of September 11.

Now you have gone completely loco - with that logic every german would have been a terrorist after the second world war.


The program you support will be carried out by the same kind of people who bombed a pharmaceutical factory in the Sudan, who fired cruise missiles into the terrorist camp that wasn't there in Afghanistan,


It was there buddy , right there - read news reports more carefully. Only that bast*rd was not.


who saw American troops humiliated in Lebanon and Somalia,

In Somalia they were on a humanitarian mission when they were butchered !!!!! How low can humans get sometimes !!!!! They died in the most glorious way possible - in service of humanity.


who went to war with Iraq to keep oil plentiful but then forcibly prohibited the buying of most Iraqi oil afterward,

You mean U support Saddam too !!!!!! man !!!! you are one sick s.o.b.

who were going to stop Panama from being a drug conduit and instead left Panama completely defenseless against the drug trade.

Again, PM me so we can keep this post on topic. This is a hot deals board, not a political discussion board; people do not come here to be proselytized.


PM me if you need any more dose of this !!!!!!!!!

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no war, No way!!!!!

i'm with violence all the way this time against those terrorist, bomb them!!!!!!!!!
bome them again!!!!!!!! and agagin!!!!!!!!!!



 
uh huh,
some of ya f*ckers deserve to die....

We go there and bomb their stuff, they go here and bomb our stuff. The more we bomb them, the more theyll hate us. The more they hate us, the more dead people being carried out of blown bulidning you'll see on the tv. You guys just dont get it. SAme thing happened after 1st world war when germany got all these sanctions. They got pissed eventuall and you know what happened afterwards.

There hasnt abeen a war on north america for like 200 years, you forgot all about the destroyed buildings, bodies lying in the streets and being surrounded by violence 247. Like i said im from centeral europe and i wouldnt war here or there.
 
Now, I've tried to stay out of this, I really have. I am definitely a logical thinker and don't let rage overtake my thought-process, but...

I'd like to ask all of you that are saying going to war or retaliating is "ignorant", what then do you suppose we do about it? Just go about business as usual and just say "we'll let it slide......AGAIN. And again...and again...etc. i agree bombing the crap out of innocent people who had absolutely nothing to do with it is not the answer, but don't we have to stand up for ourselves. We can't keep taking it, so what do you anti-war people want to do...please respond...I'd like to hear it
 
volfan is right, those of you so opposed to the US attacking countries that harbor terrorists: please, fill us in on your 'enlightened' solution.
I for one am willing to listen to what you have to say.
 
FrysInsider and Halik: You're a bunch of dumbasses. New Mexico was not and is not considered part of the Confederate South. F*cking morons, you should learn your history a little better.

Halik: oh, you're from central Europe. And you've seen a few little wars. Big f*cking deal. I lived through Vietnam.

And for you little pansies who are against war, I too am willing to listen to your rational solution of this terrorist problem if you can provide a logical argument.

Terrorists don't act rationally or ethically. If you take the high ground, they'll just continue to rape this country. You let a murderer walk and he'll continue to commit crimes.
 
Hey MoHammo...

Where the hell were you before your bro's took out our World Trade Center, and all of those innocent men, women, and children...?

If you want to do something to stop the cycle... why don't you go to your people, and explain to them that their book of god, tells them to "cut the heads off of non believers" I believe that one comes up in chapter 42 or 43..... and that they need to change THEIR belief.

Make no mistake .... war is a comin. In a very big way.

And for those of you who think that it will promote more terrorism.... you are right. Just as not believing in the terroists organizations cause will promote terrorism. Just as having a different religion, will promote terrorism. Just as being an envied nation will promote terrorism. Just as having a different skin color, will promote terrorism. Just as wanting to effect change, will promote terrorism.
Get it?

That is why it is important to take over that part of the world, and make it a civilized place. Just as has been done since the beginning of time. We have no room or tolerance for those kinds of ignorant lost soles. The world will not tolerate acts of terrorism.... and bearing "anti-war" stickers instead of being supportive to the young men and women who will be forced to go out there, and do the REAL dirty work of defending our country and the rest of the free world, is a disgrace to America.

Please don't preach to me about how YOU are an American...... you don't want to hear what I think of that.

And make no mistake about it...... anti-war stickers, and THAT rediculous attempt at trying to stop the cycle of violence in the world.. will NOT stop terrorism. Those little bastards will try and kill any non believer(s), till they are dead themselves.

Don't just lay there like a wounded sheep, and hope that holding up a white flag will save your sorry sole. These terrorist, don't care.
Taking out the wounded, innocent, unsuspecting, is what they do best.

Now..... throw away all those stickers.... go out and talk to the young men and women waiting to go serve our country, and do what you can to calm their fears, and answer their concerns, and support them in what they are about to do, so YOU can sleep in your nice cozy warm bed tonight. That is what is needed..... not undermining their faith, courage, and strength... so you feel better about being.... what some would perhaps call, a coward.

If you want to rid the world of violence.... then DO IT. America does not promote violence. Terrorist, by definition do. Go out and rid the world of THEM... and rid the world of some of its violence.

By the way..... god created (if you are a believer) a world even without humans......that is a VERY violent place. You can not change that. The world, our universe, is, and always will be a violent place. Get used to that.

Mr. Mo... don't let your own fear cloud your ability to truly help others... even if you are not a strong enough man to stand up for freedom, and do what it takes to make the world a safer place.






 
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