Stop Heath Shuler?

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http://www.stopshuler.com/

It seems Heath Shuler, former college quarterback star and NFL quarterback bust is running for Congress in his home state of North Carolina.
A bunch of Washington Redskins fans, the team he played for and was a big bust, have started a website to encourage voters to defeat Shuler.
Seems the Redskins fans were happy to see him leave Washington and hope he doesn't return as a Congressman.

What the *uck does his quaterback success have to do with his qualifications as a Congressman?
Here is Heaths website:
http://www.heathshuler.com/index.asp

When we vote for candidates based on their box office or football success we get what we deserve.
 

ayabe

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The answer is simple, football is more important to most Americans than just about anything. It goes without saying that:

Football > politics

also

Survivor/CSI Miami/Flavor of Love > being informed
 

Slick5150

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Last time I checked the constitution allowed former college quarterbacks to run for elected office as well.

 

BoberFett

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A football player certainly can't do any worse than current crop of career politicians who hold most offices.
 

yllus

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Ability to maintain clarity of mind under intense pressure. The ability to take in two dozen constantly changing variables in an instant and make a decision based upon them. No tainting so far of mind and soul by partaking in the political game. So far.

You could do worse.

Edit: For horrible grammar.
 

sandorski

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If more ordinary citizens formed governments everyone would be better off. Ordinary citizens really know what's going on with the average citizen, something that's missing from most politicians.

I chuckle at the thought for the campaign against him though. :D
 

slsmnaz

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Shuler was a great college QB for the Big Orange but got screwed over by the idiots in Wash. He's a good guy but he still confuses me by being a pro-gun, pro-life Democrat.
 

daveshel

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You start up a slippery slope once you elect an actor president. Notoriety soons becomes a substitute for a history of public service.
 

Fern

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I live in Western NC.

Judging by the political ads, this is shaping up to be one dirty, mud-slinging campaign. (the incumbant is Charles Taylor)

Shuler really lives in Tenn (where he is famous for his glory days in collge football). His business and all his ties are over there. Looks like he was recruited by Dems and he quickly bought a house over here.

I guess the Dem Party felt Taylor was weak, so they targeted him. Most of Shuler's campaign contributions are from out-of-state. I don't why the Dem Party didn't choose one of the many experienced state Dem politions. There are many here (even the Governor is a Dem).

As far as I can tell, Shuler has no experience. But I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing for polititions.

I guess he was recruited for the "head count" in trying to take back the Congress, and they can't use him in his home state of Tenn. But given his pro-gun, pro-life stance I don't think he'll ever get a meaningful role in the party if elected.

Fern
 

BoberFett

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Originally posted by: daveshel
You start up a slippery slope once you elect an actor president. Notoriety soons becomes a substitute for a history of public service.
Who's serving the public? Not any of the politicians in Washington right now. Serving themselves, yes. Serving their big campaign contributors, yes. Serving the public? Hardly. No wonder Washington is such a mess. Fools like you vote for people because they have a history of being voted for.
 

BaliBabyDoc

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Taylor didn't have any experience befor he got elected. And in the current climate having 'experience' is probably a negative.

Frosh pols rarely get meaningful roles in either party. There's still a place for conservative Democrats . . . particularly for us former Republicans growing weary of Independent (ie other).

Charles Taylor is weak. The CAFTA flip-flop . . . hmm maybe it was closer to a faint . . . hurt his credibility.

Shuler (like some other Democrats) has maintained a lead throughout the spring and summer with his primary strength being the fact that he's NOT Charles Taylor or associated with Bush43.
 
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Originally posted by: slsmnaz
Shuler was a great college QB for the Big Orange but got screwed over by the idiots in Wash. He's a good guy but he still confuses me by being a pro-gun, pro-life Democrat.

That's what I was thinking too. I watched a special on him a while back. Actually I'm surprised to see him as a D. I had no idea.

If he had an R in front of his name I suspect that some here would be jumping on the bandwagon to derail yet another RRR fundie. As it is, he seems like a first rate guy. I'd probably vote for him.
 

slsmnaz

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Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: slsmnaz
Shuler was a great college QB for the Big Orange but got screwed over by the idiots in Wash. He's a good guy but he still confuses me by being a pro-gun, pro-life Democrat.

That's what I was thinking too. I watched a special on him a while back. Actually I'm surprised to see him as a D. I had no idea.

If he had an R in front of his name I suspect that some here would be jumping on the bandwagon to derail yet another RRR fundie. As it is, he seems like a first rate guy. I'd probably vote for him.

I think it has to do with him being from the South. This is the new definition of a Southern Democrat. I've always liked him as a person and he will be more genuine than most poiticians.
 

BaliBabyDoc

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Originally posted by: slsmnaz
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: slsmnaz
Shuler was a great college QB for the Big Orange but got screwed over by the idiots in Wash. He's a good guy but he still confuses me by being a pro-gun, pro-life Democrat.

That's what I was thinking too. I watched a special on him a while back. Actually I'm surprised to see him as a D. I had no idea.

If he had an R in front of his name I suspect that some here would be jumping on the bandwagon to derail yet another RRR fundie. As it is, he seems like a first rate guy. I'd probably vote for him.

I think it has to do with him being from the South. This is the new definition of a Southern Democrat. I've always liked him as a person and he will be more genuine than most poiticians.

No it's not. These southern Democrats have existed for years . . . Sam Nunn, Max Cleland, etc. Granted, Max was given the boot b/c he wouldn't lick Bush's.
 
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Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Originally posted by: slsmnaz
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: slsmnaz
Shuler was a great college QB for the Big Orange but got screwed over by the idiots in Wash. He's a good guy but he still confuses me by being a pro-gun, pro-life Democrat.

That's what I was thinking too. I watched a special on him a while back. Actually I'm surprised to see him as a D. I had no idea.

If he had an R in front of his name I suspect that some here would be jumping on the bandwagon to derail yet another RRR fundie. As it is, he seems like a first rate guy. I'd probably vote for him.

I think it has to do with him being from the South. This is the new definition of a Southern Democrat. I've always liked him as a person and he will be more genuine than most poiticians.

No it's not. These southern Democrats have existed for years . . . Sam Nunn, Max Cleland, etc. Granted, Max was given the boot b/c he wouldn't lick Bush's.
Zell Miller... Wonder how long before Heath gets "Zell'd" by the Dems.
 

Zebo

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He accomplished more in his life than Bush the first 40 years...essentially a drunk trust fund baby experimenting in business vs. an all american who understands concepts like team work, sacrifice and hardwork. Not to mention he's very bright.
 

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Originally posted by: yllus
Ability to maintain clarity of mind under intense pressure. The ability to take in two dozen constantly changing variables in an instant and make a decision based upon them. No tainting so far of mind and soul by partaking in the political game. So far.

You could do worse.

Edit: For horrible grammar.

actually, he was lazy, and couldn't maintain clarity of mind under even mild pressure... He was a horrible quarterback.
(redskins fan)
 

yllus

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Weird, you would figure someone who got as far as the NFL would be better than that. Ah well.