Stop forum racism, discrimination, whatever you want to call it

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: FrancesBeansRevenge

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: Czar

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: Fencer128
Hi,

I think that of late some of the posts round here have been racist towards some countries/members of other countries (France and Germany spring to mind). I would like to know if people agree that arguements should be kept civil and that this kind of "bashing" should stop. It doesn't prove anybody's point.

I would also be interested to hear the opinions (I have had to edit here to say "opinions" not "insults") of any one (French or German in particular) about how they feel towards these forums, and if that has changed of late.

Thanks,

Andy

It's been pointed out a million times already that your use of "racism" is incorrect, but I wholeheartedly agree on your call to "civility". Unfortunetly, some people don't have the self-control to do this and due to the structure of ATOT it is next to impossible to get a "civil" discussion on sensitive issues here.

If you really want "civil" discussion on such topics, the Soap Box at Ars Technica comes pretty close. There the mods step in and try to keep topics ontrack and they will lock/ban those who don't contribute to the discussion at hand. Unfortunetly(why I don't post there anymore 🙁 ), you have to have a Subscription.

wish the AT mods would try that for a month or so, I bet you would see ALOT of difference and alot of members banned 😛

Speech is not nearly as free on Ars Technica soap box. The mods here are much more restained.
This is just my observation anyway.

Speech perhaps, but Discussion is emphasized. Free speech has it's limitations, especially the "speech" that many resort to. Stroking of one's ego or the attempted destruction of another's is not what the Author's of the Bill of Rights had in mind when they gauranteed Freedom of Speech, they were thinking about "discussion" of ideas in order to benefit society as a whole.

IMHO, the explicit right of free speech only works if it protects even the most offensive and vile among us AS WELL AS everyone else.

I agree, those who post inane crap have the right to do so. What I'm saying is that posting inane crap has no value or redeeming quality. Those who post inane crap, then wrap themselves in the mantra of "Freedom of Speech" are insulting and belittling the value that the Authors of the Bill of Rights had in mind. This is where Self Control comes into play, if you value your rights, treat them with respect, not as an excuse.

 

[classy]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: classy

Originally posted by: FrancesBeansRevenge

Originally posted by: classy

Originally posted by: FrancesBeansRevenge

Originally posted by: classy
I just think there is not enough diversity here to have in depth conversations when it comes to race and stuff like that. I think we need AA here. 🙂

Do you ever make a post, or even have a thought, that doesn't have anything to do with race? Just curious.

Race is a big issue here. And I talk about a lot fo stuff. Most of the stuff here about race is often negative. I have yet to see a thread that didn't have dozens of knuckleheads, like you, slinging the same ole typical stereotypes. Then knucklehaeds like you get upset when I say its different than the garbage that is usually spewed here. I do and will always talk about other stuff, but I'll be damned if I'm just going to sit here and read all the freaking cross burning and not say nothing.

Who said I was upset? I simply am floored by your obsession with race.
It's likely YOU, and not those around you, who makes your whole life about race.

If you are lumping me in the 'freaking cross burning knuckleheads' category is that not the 'same ole typical stereotype'?
Are stereotypes okay as long as they aren't directed towards the 'group' you 'belong' to?

You know you always got a lot to say to me. But its amazing I never see your punk a$$ ever say anything to anyone who posts negative racial stuff. But the minute I say something in response to the garbage, you come along and label me whatever. Go crawl under a rock dirtbag. How's that obsession for you?

Maybe you personally insulted him when you posted that diatribe about homosexuals a while back.

lol. I forgot about that. 😱 Some of these guys just kill me. Oh classy your such a racist. But its funny I am always responding to threads started by others. This clown has always got some lil comment or two, but I never see him ever say a damn thing to the jerks who start race bashing threads. Although this is not such a thread. But hey I don't want to get "Tinky Winkie" upset. 🙂

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: classy
I swear I love you guys 😀. Okay now lets be honest for a minute here. This board is dominated by whites and republicans overwhelmingly. I didn't call anyone racist or anything. But because of these two factors it would extremely hard to have a discussion about race, creed, or nationality because the dominate view here would be skewed. Case in point. If someone lived in a cave all their life and only logged in here to OT forums here at Anandtech they would come away with a very negative slanted view on blacks and rap music. Almost every conversation about blacks and rap music is usually negative. I could same the same about being democrat. Many if not all these coversations more often than not only present one side the arguement seen through predominately the same kinds of eyes. Its like a person going to an Italian resteraunt to learn how to cook soul food. He may learn about cooking soul food there, but it will definately have a slant to it. Thats all I'm saying. Some of yall need to chill. 🙂

I didn't realize there were many threads about black people on here, nor do I see too many threads about rap. The one thread about rap that I remember is a few days ago.

In that thread I said:

Be who cut rap are stupid. rap only makes up about 20-30% of my music listening BUT I ENJOY and respect the rap I have. Anyone who cuts an artist or a person because they sing rap or listen to rap can eat my goober.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: LordMaul
You know, I tried very, very hard to give a flipping sh!t about anything in this thread, but..well...I'll be damned if I still don't.

stop posting

 

[classy]

Originally posted by: Millennium
classy this board is more than likely almost majority asian. I don't know what rock you are hiding under, but as usual you don't have a clue what you are talking about.

This board seems moderate if not a little left of center to me. I am a moderate so it fits in rather well for me. The one thing that does not fit in with me, is you playing the race card in every post and threatening those who disagree with you.

Asian? Are you kidding me. The OT portion of this board easily breaks 80% white without breaking a sweat. The rest of your post is the same ole classy drivel. The day when the cross burning stops is the day I don't say anything else. So if you want to cry about something start crying about the ones who start those kinds of threads and not those like me who respond. Deal?

 

[StageLeft]

Everytime I've bashed the living daylights out of rap (and for the record I do like a smidgen of it) I've never bashed the black artists. Well unless it's 50 cent but if he was white he'd still be a piece of crap. It has nothing to do with his skin color.

If somebody dislikes rap and rap is predominantly made by blacks it doesn't mean that person dislikes blacks. I pretty much can't stand country music, most of which is made by whites, but I don't hate whites.

 

[classy]

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: classy
I swear I love you guys 😀. Okay now lets be honest for a minute here. This board is dominated by whites and republicans overwhelmingly. I didn't call anyone racist or anything. But because of these two factors it would extremely hard to have a discussion about race, creed, or nationality because the dominate view here would be skewed. Case in point. If someone lived in a cave all their life and only logged in here to OT forums here at Anandtech they would come away with a very negative slanted view on blacks and rap music. Almost every conversation about blacks and rap music is usually negative. I could same the same about being democrat. Many if not all these coversations more often than not only present one side the arguement seen through predominately the same kinds of eyes. Its like a person going to an Italian resteraunt to learn how to cook soul food. He may learn about cooking soul food there, but it will definately have a slant to it. Thats all I'm saying. Some of yall need to chill. 🙂

I didn't realize there were many threads about black people on here, nor do I see too many threads about rap. The one thread about rap that I remember is a few days ago.

In that thread I said:

Be who cut rap are stupid. rap only makes up about 20-30% of my music listening BUT I ENJOY and respect the rap I have. Anyone who cuts an artist or a person because they sing rap or listen to rap can eat my goober.

Well maybe if you remove that damn sheet off your head you might find many of threads I was talking about.
This thread is getting very ugly and personal so I am going to lock it.

 

[classy]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Everytime I've bashed the living daylights out of rap (and for the record I do like a smidgen of it) I've never bashed the black artists. Well unless it's 50 cent but if he was white he'd still be a piece of crap. It has nothing to do with his skin color.

If somebody dislikes rap and rap is predominantly made by blacks it doesn't mean that person dislikes blacks. I pretty much can't stand country music, most of which is made by whites, but I don't hate whites.

Yea thats you. But most of the anti rap threads usually lead to the same ole stereotypes. Hey look its a joke for any of you guys to say there aren't negative racial threads posted here for there have been many.