"Stomach Pacemaker" -- Zap Away Those Extra Pounds

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http://www.transneuronix.com/

Zap Away Those Extra Pounds
A new implant reduces hunger and poses less risk than other weight-loss surgeries


By Carole Fleck

April 2005

Ira Dolin?s health was at stake. His doctor told him he needed to shed 100 pounds from his beefy 6-foot frame if he wanted to keep up with his twin baby girls.

"I don?t want to be coaching their soccer team with a cane when they?re older," says Dolin, 43. "I want to be around for them."

Last July the Illinois resident agreed to participate in one of eight clinical trials around the country studying a promising new treatment for obesity?a pacemaker for the stomach that reduces hunger pangs. It is one of the latest efforts aimed at reversing the rising number of obese American adults?estimated at more than 60 million.

Similar to a heart pacemaker, the experimental, battery-operated device?about the size of a matchbox?is implanted under the skin of the abdomen in a one-hour outpatient procedure. It emits mild electrical stimulation that creates feelings of fullness, so the patient eats less. Researchers hope to determine if the pacemaker?known officially as an implantable gastric stimulator?is a safer alternative to more radical weight-loss surgeries that shrink the stomach or alter the digestive tract.

Steven Adler, executive vice president of Transneuronix Inc., the manufacturer of the pacemaker, in Mount Arlington, N.J., says it could be two years before the Food and Drug Administration approves the device.

Stomach pacemakers have been implanted in 190 trial participants in the United States, and activated in half of them. Members of both groups were given a diet and exercise plan. By year?s end doctors and participants alike will learn who had the working pacemakers and compare how many pounds were shed.

In earlier tests in Europe nearly 500 people with the implants typically lost 25 to 40 percent of their excess weight, says Jay Prystowsky, M.D., gastrointestinal surgeon at Northwestern Memorial Hospital in Chicago, one of the trial sites. The stomach pacemaker has been approved in several European countries and Canada.

"You don?t have to lose a lot of weight to see improvement in [obesity-related] illnesses like diabetes or high blood pressure," he says. People who lose 30 to 40 percent of their excess weight "will definitely be healthier."

Weight loss can be even more dramatic from the two most commonly performed gastric surgeries that alter the stomach to restrict food intake. But the surgeries carry risks.

In bypass surgery, for example, up to 20 percent of patients require follow-up operations to correct complications. Nearly 30 percent develop nutritional deficiencies because the body can absorb only small amounts of calories and nutrients from food. Many feel nauseated or vomit if they eat too fast or too much, or don?t chew enough.

"There are very few side effects [with the pacemaker], and it?s much better tolerated," says Louis Aronne, M.D., clinical professor of medicine at Weill Cornell Medical College in New York, another trial site. He expects the procedure to cost about $15,000.

Dolin, who is in the Northwestern study, says he shed about 40 pounds in seven months, although he doesn?t know for certain if his pacemaker was activated. What he does know, he says, is that he feels fuller faster and isn?t as hungry before or between meals.

"I?ve thought about gastric bypass, but the risk of going through a surgery like that?where if you overeat, you get really sick?I didn?t want that," Dolin says. "This was a safer alternative and the surgery was pretty mild. Three days later I was dancing at my brother?s wedding."

 

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There's a great substitute for this, and there are absolutely no side-effects... it's called will-power
 

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Originally posted by: BCYL
There's a great substitute for this, and there are absolutely no side-effects... it's called will-power

Obviously not working for the majority of people with weight gain issues.

Fighting your body's primal needs is quite often a losing battle. Especially for those genetically predisposed to weight gain.

Hell, just look at ANY Samoan.
 

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: BCYL
There's a great substitute for this, and there are absolutely no side-effects... it's called will-power

Obviously not working for the majority of people with weight gain issues.

Fighting your body's primal needs is quite often a losing battle. Especially for those genetically predisposed to weight gain.

Hell, just look at ANY Samoan.
Yes, most people can't help themselves. For them this could be a good alternative to gastric bypass, if it really works all that well.

 

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Amused
You'd think this would draw more discussion. Hmmmm...
i think the subject was too big to comprehend, too gastricanomical. :D

GROAN!!!
stomach pains?

You broke my funny bone.
damn...and so many times i think.... his username is Amused, and he's not amused. :p

 

Amused

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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Amused
You'd think this would draw more discussion. Hmmmm...
i think the subject was too big to comprehend, too gastricanomical. :D

GROAN!!!
stomach pains?

You broke my funny bone.
damn...and so many times i think.... his username is Amused, and he's not amused. :p

Oh, I'm amused. Trust me.
 

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: BCYL
There's a great substitute for this, and there are absolutely no side-effects... it's called will-power

Obviously not working for the majority of people with weight gain issues.

Fighting your body's primal needs is quite often a losing battle. Especially for those genetically predisposed to weight gain.

Hell, just look at ANY Samoan.

There are actually a lot of very buff, EXTREMELY musclular Samoans with little body fat. There are also small, slim ones. I normally hate to generalize about race and physical characteristics, but by far the most impressive physcial specimens (overall size and muscle mass) I have seen are Samoans.
 

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Originally posted by: Landroval
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: BCYL
There's a great substitute for this, and there are absolutely no side-effects... it's called will-power

Obviously not working for the majority of people with weight gain issues.

Fighting your body's primal needs is quite often a losing battle. Especially for those genetically predisposed to weight gain.

Hell, just look at ANY Samoan.

There are actually a lot of very buff, EXTREMELY musclular Samoans with little body fat. There are also small, slim ones. I normally hate to generalize about race and physical characteristics, but by far the most impressive physcial specimens (overall size and muscle mass) I have seen are Samoans.

The vast majority of Samoans are obese.

No one denies that Samoans have a genetic tendency for obesity.

http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/abstract/53/6/1586S

80% in westernized Samoan females. 46% in those still in Samoa.

Can we move on?
 

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Landroval
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: BCYL
There's a great substitute for this, and there are absolutely no side-effects... it's called will-power

Obviously not working for the majority of people with weight gain issues.

Fighting your body's primal needs is quite often a losing battle. Especially for those genetically predisposed to weight gain.

Hell, just look at ANY Samoan.

There are actually a lot of very buff, EXTREMELY musclular Samoans with little body fat. There are also small, slim ones. I normally hate to generalize about race and physical characteristics, but by far the most impressive physcial specimens (overall size and muscle mass) I have seen are Samoans.

The vast majority of Samoans are obese.

No one denies that Samoans have a genetic tendency for obesity.

http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/abstract/53/6/1586S

80% in westernized Samoan females. 46% in those still in Samoa.

Can we move on?

No, we can't. The vast majority of white Americans are also obese.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: Landroval
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Landroval
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: BCYL
There's a great substitute for this, and there are absolutely no side-effects... it's called will-power

Obviously not working for the majority of people with weight gain issues.

Fighting your body's primal needs is quite often a losing battle. Especially for those genetically predisposed to weight gain.

Hell, just look at ANY Samoan.

There are actually a lot of very buff, EXTREMELY musclular Samoans with little body fat. There are also small, slim ones. I normally hate to generalize about race and physical characteristics, but by far the most impressive physcial specimens (overall size and muscle mass) I have seen are Samoans.

The vast majority of Samoans are obese.

No one denies that Samoans have a genetic tendency for obesity.

http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/abstract/53/6/1586S

80% in westernized Samoan females. 46% in those still in Samoa.

Can we move on?

No, we can't. The vast majority of white Americans are also obese.

Um no. Obesity is still a minority. I believe the current % in the US is somehwere around 30%.
 

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
How long have Samoans been like that?


Like Hawaiians, it is believed to be caused by modernization and changing diet, as well as cultural factors. One could argue the same for fat white people in the U.S.
 

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
How long have Samoans been like that?

As long as history records. They have always had a high obesity rate on thier native island. Possibly by selective breeding (obese was seen as a positive).

At any rate, they are a very simple proof that obesity is caused, in large part, by genetics.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: Landroval
Originally posted by: Skoorb
How long have Samoans been like that?


Like Hawaiians, it is believed to be caused by modernization and changing diet, as well as cultural factors. One could argue the same for fat white people in the U.S.

Again, Samoans were found to be a very chubby/obese people by the first white explorers on their native island.

And genetics explains why some people can eat the exact same diet, and one end up obese while the other is thin as a rail.
 

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And genetics explains why some people can eat the exact same diet, and one end up obese while the other is thin as a rail.
Yes, but of course in the right hands genetics are not a dicator, but merely an advisor. Put that rail on a 7k forced feeding diet and he'll gain weight, just as nobody from a POW camp ever came out resembling a blimp.
 

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Landroval
Originally posted by: Skoorb
How long have Samoans been like that?


Like Hawaiians, it is believed to be caused by modernization and changing diet, as well as cultural factors. One could argue the same for fat white people in the U.S.

Again, Samoans were found to be a very chubby/obese people by the first white explorers on their native island.

If by chubby you mean a lot larger than average white people, maybe. Just like now in Hawaii, when people return to their native diets (as they have done in medical studies here) instead of eating plate lunches with 2000+ calories for a single mean), they are not overweight.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
And genetics explains why some people can eat the exact same diet, and one end up obese while the other is thin as a rail.
Yes, but of course in the right hands genetics are not a dicator, but merely an advisor. Put that rail on a 7k forced feeding diet and he'll gain weight, just as nobody from a POW camp ever came out resembling a blimp.

Yes, but that rail can NEVER reach morbid obesity.

Not like the man who remains chubby on a 1500 calorie diet can when he eats a normal diet.
 

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Originally posted by: Landroval
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Landroval
Originally posted by: Skoorb
How long have Samoans been like that?


Like Hawaiians, it is believed to be caused by modernization and changing diet, as well as cultural factors. One could argue the same for fat white people in the U.S.

Again, Samoans were found to be a very chubby/obese people by the first white explorers on their native island.

If by chubby you mean a lot larger than average white people, maybe. Just like now in Hawaii, when people return to their native diets (as they have done in medical studies here) instead of eating plate lunches with 2000+ calories for a single mean), they are not overweight.

Samoans were on average, fat BEFORE they were exposed to westerners or a modern diet.

Why is there such a denial of the OBVIOUS differences in genetics and how it plays in obesity?
 

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Skoorb
And genetics explains why some people can eat the exact same diet, and one end up obese while the other is thin as a rail.
Yes, but of course in the right hands genetics are not a dicator, but merely an advisor. Put that rail on a 7k forced feeding diet and he'll gain weight, just as nobody from a POW camp ever came out resembling a blimp.

Yes, but that rail can NEVER reach morbid obesity.

Not like the man who remains chubby on a 1500 calorie diet can when he eats a normal diet.
True. In terms of body changing, will power aside, I think naturally chubby people have more potential. A guy who's bone thin and always has been will never hit the 900 lb club, but a guy who's always been fat could get into the single digits of bodyfat, if he really made it his life's ambition to do it.