Still need a GPU, with an Intel i7 4770 for VIDEO EDITING?

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beginner99

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I've edited some video with sony vegas pro version 12 and rendering is faster on my GPU compared to my overclocked processor by quite a bit that is one area its noticeable.

I was talking about Intel QuickSync which supposedly is also supported by Sony Vegas and is way faster than any other solution.
 

crazzy.heartz

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Thanks,
1440, or higher LED Display?
I saw a a 2560x1440 IPS LED on Monoprice for $400.00 and up! Although this looks tempting, It's way out of my price range. So my choice would be either a REG. LED 1980x1080, or a IPS 1980x1200....I'll but the 2560x1440, after I win the lottery...(fingers crossed)

I meant getting a new LED backlit monitor with 2560 x 1440 or 2560 x 1600 resolution. Apologies for the confusion.

You'd grow out of 1080p pretty fast.. If you have to save up a bit, do wait; but get a quality/higher resolution monitor. (another reason not to get a 650/670 caliber dedicated GPU without core gaming requirement..)

As menitoned by dave_the_nerd, you won't even notice any difference (if any). Intel quick sync is blistering fast..

Furthermore, if you are always sitting in front of your monitor, a TN panel would suffice. However, if you plan to watch watch movies at an odd angle (4-5 feet away) or with family, get the IPS as color shilt is quite prominent on TN panels. Monoprice would offer the best of both worlds..

Technically, 3.9GHz is single core boost only. The bins drop the more cores are active unless you have Multi Core Enhancement enabled in your BIOS which forces the maximum at all loads. That being said, I've never seen my 4770 hit over 3.8GHz, and gaming wise it loads to around 3.7GHz.

In my MB's BIOS, under Turbo settings, Default values are:

Core 1 - 3.9
Core 2 - 3.8
Core 3 - 3.8
Core 4 - 3.8

As I've enabled HT in Bios and also disabled core parking in Win7; in BIOS, under CPU information, it lists 2 cores at 3.9 Ghz & 6 cores at 3.8 Ghz.

I usually have CPUz open when installing games/softwares and it's usually hovering at 3.7/3.8 Ghz.. Would also touch 3.9 sporadically..

Is there an app that can log individual core speeds in the background when im playing games ? something similar to GPUz.. CPUz does't log..
 

mindless1

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I thought this was a video editing rig on a budget. Yes a high res monitor is nice, but sticking with a 1280x1024 to save up suggests yet another alternative, going ahead and getting a 1080p (or 1920x1200) monitor now, then later getting a 2nd monitor that's higher resolution and using them both. That would allow a side by side view, input/output full HD resolution video comparison which is useful.

Definitely get IPS or MVA not TN for video editing. You need the higher contrast and the higher color accuracy is nice too, if calibrated or at least references to other display devices.

I suppose the bottom line is that it is very easy to spend someone else's money. :)
 
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cytg111

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I already have this 3rd party Coolermaster EVO Tower 212, which a lot of peeps told me that I could have used the supplied stock CPU cooler, but even with this CM 212, your telling me I would still need a better Cooler?

If anything, I think if I go with a GPU at all, it might be between the GTX-650, or the GTX-770 but no SLI, or double GPUS.

Sorry missed the CoolerMaster in your OP.
 

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WELL..I WENT AHEAD AND DID IT!

I was at Fry's last night, to get a few LED 120mm case Fans. Just happened to meander over to the Graphics Isle, and saw the EVGA GTX-750 1 GB/GDDR5, for $135.00 with a $10.00 rebate.

All of these past thread posts going back and forth asking nice, seasoned folks like you, whether or not I would benefit from a dedicated GPU, or be simply satisfied using the 4770 CPU's HD 4600 Graphics, I finally went for the card. since I was getting advice from about half of you to get the card, and the half telling me just use the IGPU.

Some decisions have to be made on instinct, and having the GeForce 8600GT for the past seven years, I think overall, I would be better off having this card, than not having it. Besides, maybe someday I may want to a little small time gaming.

(?) When I had set up my 8600GT, in the BIOS I had to direct which graphic controller to use, and I chose the PCI-e. This time with the i7 4770, and the Evga GTX750, will it ask me again, will it auto select, or will they automatically be used together?

Thank you for the kinds words and for all the helpful advice. You all are awesome!! My next purchase?....Either a IPS LED HD 1980x1050, or 1980x1200, and maybe a BD Burner.
 
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rivbyte

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Here I go beating a dead horse, but .....

Whew!
For now I have the 1280 x 1024 Monitor, I will upgrade hopefully soon, to maybe a IPS LED 22"-24", up to 1200, or more expensively up to 1400 RES. Reading more articles about the CPU's 4600 HD Graphics outperforming GPU's overall, and processing 1080p video. I'm still hearing I do not need a GPU, and the onboard 4600 HD will be a good fit, for my light video-editing and Photoshop work.

GPU~
"If you ever go 1080p or beyond; get a 770 with 4GB."

That's why I'm still somewhat confused, I sent Seasonic an email asking them what they thought, since they made the darn thing, and they sent me a *reference link:
"Yep, you need at least get a 575W, however, our 550W will have about 600W max output."

*Reference link:http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page362.htm

Sounds like I 'd be living on the edge, if I don't get at least a 600w, or 650w PSU. I know you all will say just use the 550, but what would happened if it was still not enough, (not a good scenario) or I upgrade to a bigger GPU (for what, I have no idea) in the future. Then I would be stuck with this 550W. So better now, BEFORE I open the box and use it, I should still think about if I still NEED a BIGGER WATTAGE PSU.
 

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Since you are still asking questions, I'll chip in.

First you never want to use a power supply at greater than 80% of it's rated load if you can help it. The harder a PSU works the more it over heats the less power it provides.

Next you always want to work with higher quality footage than you want to play it back at. So if you are editing everything for 720p down the road those videos are going to look really bad, kinda like vcr tapes and so forth minus the damage. So I would get a setup for 1920x1080p or higher. If you work on larger footage and test the playback at 1080p (1920z1080), you should be good for a while. Everything recorded these days is being done at 4K if they can but the final footage people are buying is usually only 1080p.

Next if you have a videocard in the system it will take a load off the CPU to do things the CPU would otherwise have to do. So having a cheap videocard in the system will speed things up even if it is not doing any of the rendering.

Pinnacle Studio 15 does not support CUDA but version 16 does.

http://corel.force.com/index/articl...Avid-Studio-and-Pinnacle-Studio-16-comparison

This is good reading on how to balance a system. Note the cuda support is missing in version 15 so take that into account.

http://ppbm7.com/index.php/tweakers-page/83-balanced-systems/94-balanced-systems
 

mindless1

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Sounds like I 'd be living on the edge, if I don't get at least a 600w, or 650w PSU. I know you all will say just use the 550, but what would happened if it was still not enough, (not a good scenario) or I upgrade to a bigger GPU (for what, I have no idea) in the future. Then I would be stuck with this 550W. So better now, BEFORE I open the box and use it, I should still think about if I still NEED a BIGGER WATTAGE PSU.

550W is plenty for your listed system build including the GTX 750 video card. It's also enough for a significant video card upgrade down the road, just not a combination of a significant upgrade AND a second card in SLI mode. Since the latter would cost a few hundred dollars plus a good PSU upgrade, I'd just wait until that day comes if ever. It's rarely cost effective to try to future proof a system THAT much.
 
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Blue_Max

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Yeah, the Geforce 750's super-low power requirement is a very good thing here. You made an excellent choice!
 

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For video editing especially Adobe programs are perfect optimized for GTX 580. I saw pages of tests about this (I don't remember exactly the link, but if you "dig" a bit u will find) where an 580 absolutely smash even a Titan in Adobe applications. So, for better results try to find a 580 (even an 1,5 GB one) . Personal, I replaced my 780 AMP! with a 580 SLI and this setup encoding/decoding almost twice faster than the 780. You may have a bit of troubles with the 550 W PSU even with one 580, but it worth to change the PSU.