vcarpio, I am glad everything is finally working for you. 
jumpingjoeusa, what was the problem with your board? Was anything working at all? Did you set the jumpers and plug everything properly? Most people who got a bad board were able to RMA it back to overstock for a refund, so I don't see why you couldn't do it. I am myself very skeptical of refurbished stuff, but I figured, even if I ended up paying for 2 of these boards just to get one of them running, it'd still be worth my money. These are quality boards, not the cheap stuff that some smaller companies like abit put out. You'll never see capacitors this huge on any cheap motherboards. Boards do go bad sometimes, but my rule of thumb is, if you can "burn" your system for 72 hours without a single stability glitch, then the board should last a VERY long time if properly handled.
Ironically, I rarely buy computer stuff from overstock.com; I always buy from them when I am looking for a b'day present (picture frames, gadgets, ...) or if I need some cheap kitchenware (their store has a lot of nice non-computer stuff). I'd say overstock.com is a nice place to shop in, from my personal experience.
jumpingjoeusa, what was the problem with your board? Was anything working at all? Did you set the jumpers and plug everything properly? Most people who got a bad board were able to RMA it back to overstock for a refund, so I don't see why you couldn't do it. I am myself very skeptical of refurbished stuff, but I figured, even if I ended up paying for 2 of these boards just to get one of them running, it'd still be worth my money. These are quality boards, not the cheap stuff that some smaller companies like abit put out. You'll never see capacitors this huge on any cheap motherboards. Boards do go bad sometimes, but my rule of thumb is, if you can "burn" your system for 72 hours without a single stability glitch, then the board should last a VERY long time if properly handled.
Ironically, I rarely buy computer stuff from overstock.com; I always buy from them when I am looking for a b'day present (picture frames, gadgets, ...) or if I need some cheap kitchenware (their store has a lot of nice non-computer stuff). I'd say overstock.com is a nice place to shop in, from my personal experience.
Thought I had a bargain - bought two MP440bbx from overstock and used a $20 coupon. Wow that's less than $30 a piece! Unfortunately I spend a good part of 4 hours trying to get them to boot. Both are as dead as an Al Gore campaign promise. Damn - this would be a perfect match for my new c2 633's that need a mobo. Always weigh the cost of time vs. money is my lesson of the day. :disgust:
5dillon, I can understand and I agree with you. If I have to spend more than 1 hour to install a motherboard and get it running, to me, the board has got some problems (whether by design, or because of compatibility, or device conflicts). I am sorry to hear that both of your boards were lemons. I guess overstock needs to have a stricter quality check when they re-issue returned motherboards (I think that's what they probably do; I do believe that they problably just put some of these mobos back in stock right away - I know some people that never give the real reason when they return their merchandise - they just say "I didn't like the product" without telling that the product is defective; and so there's a chance it gets repackaged and goes straight back on the shelves).
DieselMan,
How did you find a pin layout picture posted by TK-421?
His link is dead.
Could you, please, post the picture somewhere or email me at BSergeev@excite.com ?
Thanx!
How did you find a pin layout picture posted by TK-421?
His link is dead.
Could you, please, post the picture somewhere or email me at BSergeev@excite.com ?
Thanx!
Siberian Dude, I'll see if I saved the picture on my computer at home. I'll email you tomorrow night if I do (I'll be away for 24 hours).
I got one of the mp440bx but waited to put it togeather the board was DOA
called overstoker for a rma# told them it was DOA they wainted to know what power supply I was useing told them a 250 wat and I even whent so far as to take my athalon system apart to test out the power supply put the 440 board in my athalon box and my athalon in the 440 box the athalon powered up the 440 was still DOA told overstocker and he said it would take a day or two for a rma so the next day I get a e-mail wan'ting to know my setup how hard is it to get a rma out of thease people.
called overstoker for a rma# told them it was DOA they wainted to know what power supply I was useing told them a 250 wat and I even whent so far as to take my athalon system apart to test out the power supply put the 440 board in my athalon box and my athalon in the 440 box the athalon powered up the 440 was still DOA told overstocker and he said it would take a day or two for a rma so the next day I get a e-mail wan'ting to know my setup how hard is it to get a rma out of thease people.
I saved the pin layout from TK-421's link. I put it at:
http://members.tripod.com/~bcarpio/intelmb_-_mp440bx_pin_layout.jpg
I hope I don't get sued for plagiarism...
My experience setting up the MP440BX was I had difficulty figuring out how to boot from the HD. I was setting up 2 x 1 gig HDs, 1 850MB HD, and a CD-ROM drive, in addition to the FD. The MP440BX was smarter than me sometimes in deciding which one to boot from. Without the manual, I had to figure out how to set the boot drive. Turns out you can specify whether to boot from one of the categories "HD", "removable", "bootable card" (SCSI, presumably), etc. Then within each category, you can further pick which HD, or which removable, or which bootable card you want to first boot from. Furthermore, you can specify the order within the categories which device to boot from next should the first one fail to boot. Pretty confusing because the MP440BX sometimes automatically sets the boot order, I dunno, maybe when I attach or detach drives. But all that hair-tearing's over now and I'm pretty happy with the board. Especially with my 366@550 Cely-on-an-ASUS-slocket setup.
I agree Dieselman, the first things I noticed when the board arrived was its sturdiness and its huge capacitors. Maybe I should spell that H-U-G-E for emphasis.
http://members.tripod.com/~bcarpio/intelmb_-_mp440bx_pin_layout.jpg
I hope I don't get sued for plagiarism...
My experience setting up the MP440BX was I had difficulty figuring out how to boot from the HD. I was setting up 2 x 1 gig HDs, 1 850MB HD, and a CD-ROM drive, in addition to the FD. The MP440BX was smarter than me sometimes in deciding which one to boot from. Without the manual, I had to figure out how to set the boot drive. Turns out you can specify whether to boot from one of the categories "HD", "removable", "bootable card" (SCSI, presumably), etc. Then within each category, you can further pick which HD, or which removable, or which bootable card you want to first boot from. Furthermore, you can specify the order within the categories which device to boot from next should the first one fail to boot. Pretty confusing because the MP440BX sometimes automatically sets the boot order, I dunno, maybe when I attach or detach drives. But all that hair-tearing's over now and I'm pretty happy with the board. Especially with my 366@550 Cely-on-an-ASUS-slocket setup.
I agree Dieselman, the first things I noticed when the board arrived was its sturdiness and its huge capacitors. Maybe I should spell that H-U-G-E for emphasis.
Thanks vcarpio for supplying the picture
It seems hard to believe this is a 4-layer board with all its sturdiness
It seems hard to believe this is a 4-layer board with all its sturdiness
Got this board and plug in a cel 366 with a msi 6905 version 1.0(the old type with no dual, no voltage). NO GO !!!!! NO POST !!!! Exchange the above slocket with a no brand slocket with voltage adjustment and the mobo run perfectly. Both slockets and cpu work fine on other system. The 366 is running now at 550 mhz at 2.0v, stable.
Thanks zener for the info. Although I do believe that some of these boards were indeed DOA, zener has just proved us that in some cases, the problem resides somewhere else (such as the slocket not being compatible with the mobo). Moreover, since this board does not ship with the manual or instructions, it can be very difficult for newbie to set all the jumpers and cables properly. I have bought quiet a few NEW mainboards that have refused to boot, sometimes because I made a mistake in the setup, sometimes because my hardware was not compatible (RAM, or Power Supply), and finally because the NEW board was DOA (cough-cough, abit, cough-cough). Try not to jump to conclusions to early, just because you know that the board is refurbed (and actually, these were mostly working pull-outs motherboards from gateway systems - no kidding!). Again I am not saying that all these boards are supposed to work; I am sure some of these will be DOA, but don't trash the board just because you weren't able to boot it up the first time around!
DieselMan I know you think some of thease boards are good that people did not setup right thanks to TK-421 I was able to not only get the pin setting but the full tech sheet wich I went through befor setting up my board I made shear that my memory was to spec my power supply was to spec
but who cares if your hard drive is conflics if you can't even get you power supply to turn on with this board in my case I do have a DOA board
and as far as to boot if you dont get it to power up how can you change bios with out getting it to power up just because I my be a junior member
I have been setting units back from dos now Im just a gammer playing around
cant wait for Duke4 to come out
but who cares if your hard drive is conflics if you can't even get you power supply to turn on with this board in my case I do have a DOA board
and as far as to boot if you dont get it to power up how can you change bios with out getting it to power up just because I my be a junior member
I have been setting units back from dos now Im just a gammer playing around
cant wait for Duke4 to come out
Hey could someone email me a copy of the pin outs? members.tripod.com isn't coming up (they down for the count?)....
Intel MP440BX pin out diagram
Thanks to Borris I got a copy of the pin outs. I put it up on my web here so it is accessable to anyone else who can't get to the other sites...
Looking forward to getting my boards soon.
Thanks to Borris I got a copy of the pin outs. I put it up on my web here so it is accessable to anyone else who can't get to the other sites...
Looking forward to getting my boards soon.
can someone give me an input on why the motherboard i have, the primary and secondary IDE connectors never works together. i have the HD on the primary and it found the Operating system and boot into windows fine, however, when i tried to plug the cdrom into the secondary IDE, it would not work, message says no hard disk found. any clues?
I think it is because of all the settings in the BIOS that let you choose which device is the boot device. Somewhere earlier in this thread someone talks about it. I haven't got my boards yet so I can't tell you where to go in the BIOS.
tinhrdep,
Look at my post at the first page of this thread.
It seems that many people have the same problem. I resolved it "by connecting CD drive to the primary IDE channel and HD--to the secondary."
Give it a try.
Look at my post at the first page of this thread.
It seems that many people have the same problem. I resolved it "by connecting CD drive to the primary IDE channel and HD--to the secondary."
Give it a try.
Yes, I followed Siberian Dude's advice (thanks bud!), and it solved the problem for me Try it too!
Try it too!i tried connecting the HD to secondary IDE and CDROM to PRimary IDE and the motherboard would not pick up the HD.
Yahoo! Thanks! I've had mine for about a month with a celeron 433 in it. It works fine, first time I started it, with a gateway moo-cow box bios screen though I couldn't figure out the led switches and it's jury rigged now.. I have no idea which pins I put my power switch jumper on, 3 of the pairs actually worked to start the power . The one I've got it on now will start the puter, but I can'
t turn it off or reset it. heh... I'm gonna go correct my settings - thanks for the info.
I couldn't figure out the led switches and it's jury rigged now.. I have no idea which pins I put my power switch jumper on, 3 of the pairs actually worked to start the power . The one I've got it on now will start the puter, but I can't turn it off or reset it. heh... I'm gonna go correct my settings - thanks for the info.
Elimanetor, I am sorry to hear this You know, sometimes it's just luck, and we all just take our chances. Personally, I see lots of bad boards around me (not my MP440BX, but other boards from different manufacturers; the highest amount of RMA'd boards always comes from PCWare/PCchips - no argument on this ). Just in case, did you clear the CMOS? Can you even power on the Hard Drive(s), or is everything dead when you try to power on (does the power supply even go on?). Also, are you using a slocket? Is your RAM compatible? Since you are experienced, I'd already assume your board is dead Maybe better luck next time ?
You know, sometimes it's just luck, and we all just take our chances. Personally, I see lots of bad boards around me (not my MP440BX, but other boards from different manufacturers; the highest amount of RMA'd boards always comes from PCWare/PCchips - no argument on this ). Just in case, did you clear the CMOS? Can you even power on the Hard Drive(s), or is everything dead when you try to power on (does the power supply even go on?). Also, are you using a slocket? Is your RAM compatible? Since you are experienced, I'd already assume your board is dead Maybe better luck next time ?TRENDING THREADS
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