Sticking Pittsburgh With the G-20

PJABBER

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We had the Town Hall confrontations and then we had the 9/12 March On Washington where some inestimable crowd of opponents to the current One Party government gathered to display their outrage and throw a few Frisbees around.

The humongous crowd of marchers on Washington this month was estimated to number in the tens to hundreds of thousands to over a million.

There was not one arrest in the course of the entire day. The area of the march was left clean and virtually trashless. There were no windows broken, no cars overturned and no babies scared.

Washington, DC residents and dozens of police officers breathed a sigh of relief and everyone went back to enjoying the sunshine and the museums after the march.

We now fast forward to Thursday and Friday of this week, September 24 -25.

Dateline: Pittsburgh, PA.

The G-20 has been invited by President Obama to enjoy some Steelers hospitality.

The G-20 grew out of the financial disasters or bubbles during the Clinton administration and first met in Berlin in 1999.

The G-20 is composed of the G-7 nations along with 12 other countries, as well as the European Union to represent its member nations not already included. In addition, the World Bank, the International Monetary Fund (IMF) and the European Central Bank are represented.

Together, the G-20 members represent 66 percent of the world's population, 80 percent of world trade and 85 percent of global gross national product.

Will our guests be treated to dignified free speech commentary or will the anarchists and the leftish protesters that have promised to greet the finance ministers and central bankers be in attendance?

Place your bets, folks. The wheel is turning again.

Sticking Pittsburgh With the G-20

Bill Steigerwald
Pittsburgh, PA
Sept 21, 2009

Bill Steigerwald, born and raised in Pittsburgh, is a former L.A. Times copy editor and free-lancer who also worked as a docudrama researcher for CBS-TV in Hollywood before becoming a reporter for The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and a columnist for The Pittsburgh Tribune-Review. He recently retired from daily newspaper journalism.

A father of five and a long-time libertarian, Bill Steigerwald once identified himself at the end of a column as "a lapsed Catholic who believes peaceful individuals, markets and society should be as free as possible and governments should be so small, poor and weak that no one interested in money or power would want to enter politics. Bill Steigerwald is against the War on Drugs, the War on Poverty and the War on Iraq. And he tries to stay out of bars and government buildings as much as he can."


Dear President Obama.

We Pittsburghers sincerely hope you enjoy your visit to our beautiful city later this week, when you'll be chairing the exciting G-20 Summit that you so thoughtfully chose our city to host without finding out whether we could handle it or afford it.

But please, Mr. President, don't think that the chaotic and barricaded and over-policed city you will see is anything like the real Pittsburgh we know and love.

The summit of finance ministers and central bankers from the world's top 20 economies will be held Thursday and Friday in downtown Pittsburgh's "Golden Triangle," the wedge of skyscrapers and priceless old office buildings that sits between the Allegheny and Monongahela rivers as they meet to form the Ohio River.

Usually, Mr. President, downtown Pittsburgh's streets and sidewalks are quiet and peaceful, as in almost dead and without life.

It's certainly not a regular tourist destination for protesters and anarchists from around the world like the ones who, thanks to you, are expected here in the tens of thousands to express their unhappiness with the global economy by disrupting our city and breaking as many windows as they can.

Usually our downtown is not sealed off from traffic and pedestrians like the Green Zone in Baghdad or guarded by 3,000 police in riot gear, as it will be Wednesday evening through Friday. And usually we don't have to show our ID at barricades when we go downtown to work.

We're grateful that federal taxpayers will pick up most of the $20 million-plus tab for extra security personnel. But we hope you didn't pick us to host the G-20 because you think we could afford it or because you really believe, as you recently said, that Pittsburgh is "a bold example of how to create new jobs and industries while transitioning to a 21st century economy."

That sounds sweet to local boosters' ears, Mr. President. But it's not really what Pittsburgh is. In the real world, Mr. President, this city is what urbanologists and economists technically refer to as "a basket case."

Its unemployment rate and housing foreclosures are lower than the national average, it's true. And its famously low-low housing prices are stable to slightly rising. But it's all relative.

Much of the rest of the country is in a deep recession after having a crazy housing-driven boom. Pittsburgh's "eds & meds" economy isn't booming or busting: it's stuck in the same stagnant-to-slowly-growing mini-recession we've been in since we pioneered deindustrialization in the 1970s.

The city you chose to host the G-20, Mr. President, is in fact bankrupt and in state receivership because of decades of chronic mismanagement, stupidity and generous pension deals that previous generations of political hacks promised their employees but couldn't pay for.

For at least the last 30 years, Pittsburgh's power brokers have wasted billions of federal and state tax money on a series of destructive urban renewal schemes, redevelopment boondoggles and wasteful mass-transit projects.

Almost everything new and shiny that you and Michelle will see in downtown Pittsburgh or on its riverbanks was built with government money or millions in taxpayer subsidies - whether it was PNC Financial Service's almost completed downtown skyscraper or the new homes of the Pirates, Steelers and (soon) the Penguins.

That kind of government intervention may not bother you and your crew of czars. But if you and Michelle get a chance to stroll around downtown this week, look for the big hole in the street in front of Fifth Avenue Place. You can hardly miss it.

That hole - part of a construction site that has ripped up parts of downtown for several years -- symbolizes everything that's wrong with Pittsburgh.

It is the downtown end of the infamous North Shore Connector, a 1.2-mile transit tunnel that was built under the Allegheny River to where the pro baseball and football palaces are. We un-affectionately call it our "Tunnel to Nowhere."

Our wise Democrat and Republican politicians, 1960's-era planners and mass-transit apologists thought the tunnel would be a swell way to waste at least $600 million in "free" federal and state money to carry fewer than 10,000 humans a day back and forth across (under) the river.

There is much more evidence of City Hall's clumsy handiwork around downtown, Mr. President, but it's time to end this note with a simple request. Next time you're looking to "honor" a city with a G-20 summit, pick Chicago.
 

PJABBER

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Originally posted by: miketheidiot
peaceful potests are crap protests.


also the guy in your article sounds pretty bitter.

Actually he is a pretty good observer of life in Pittsburgh. The town has had a lot of problems for quite a while and the fault, at least in apportioning political blame, has not been limited to only one of the political parties.

I have an invitation to go there for some peripheral meetings to the official G-20 sessions, so I have been keeping track of how the event is going to go. Other commitments are likely keeping me in DC, but many people there are worried about who will show up. They don't want to have the protests go the way of Seattle.

And peaceful protests are often the best at communicating any message other than uncontrolled rage.
 

rchiu

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What's all the bitterness and complain gonna do for Pittsburgh? Nada.

At lease for a couple of days people around the world is gonna know Pittsburgh exists, and maybe, through some positive attitude and PR effrot from the locals, people might actually keep Pittsburgh in mind when they travel or invest in the US.
 

Bitek

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I'm guessing less Hitler, Oilgarhy, euthanasia and Communism references than the Teabaggers (unless they show up.)
 

miketheidiot

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Originally posted by: Bitek
I'm guessing less Hitler, Oilgarhy, euthanasia and Communism references than the Teabaggers (unless they show up.)

honestly i would be surprised if they didn't
 

CrackRabbit

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Oh look another troll thread.

Are you daft? Of course the Anarchists will be there destroying things and causing chaos, it's what they do.
However, lumping them together with the "hippies" (sorry that's the best way I can think of to describe them) that want to have drum circles against some "evil corporatist" agenda is stupid.
And both groups are just as retarded as the "tea party" type protests. They are welcome to speak their minds, and protest peacfully. But is anyone really listening?
 

sandorski

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Sandorski gives Protesters Porn Slogans

Peace Protesters: Stop Fucking the World
Anarchists: Stop Fucking us
Tea Partiers: Don't stop Fucking us
 

Thump553

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I don't know the exact procedure for the G-20, but if it is like any other convention the city actively solicited and bid on hosting it. I doubt greatly that this is something the President forced upon them.
 

SirStev0

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Yeah, I am sure the city of Pittsburgh absolutely hates the idea of all the money that will be brought in because of the summit. /eyeroll
 

sao123

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Originally posted by: SirStev0
Yeah, I am sure the city of Pittsburgh absolutely hates the idea of all the money that will be brought in because of the summit. /eyeroll

right.... the entire city will be reaping money hand over foot... since 90% of it has been CLOSED into quarantine. No vehicles are allowed within a radius of several miles of the convention center. All public transportation is basically stopped, train service is only for passengers with a layover, no boarding/deboarding is allowed. Many employees and most customers cant even get to the businesses... SO all the business owners said eff this and have closed their doors for this period.

So while they talk economic recovery, this city itself has a 3 day of deadness.

There will be no economic benefit to the city from holding G20.
 

PJABBER

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There goes any chance to head over to Primanti Bros. in the Strip District.
 

fskimospy

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Why do people keep saying that the crowds in DC were estimated at over a million when that number has been proven to be falsely attributed, and the source quoted for it said the crowd was more like 65-75k, less than 1/10th of that?
 

heyheybooboo

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Originally posted by: sao123
Originally posted by: SirStev0
Yeah, I am sure the city of Pittsburgh absolutely hates the idea of all the money that will be brought in because of the summit. /eyeroll

right.... the entire city will be reaping money hand over foot... since 90% of it has been CLOSED into quarantine. No vehicles are allowed within a radius of several miles of the convention center. All public transportation is basically stopped, train service is only for passengers with a layover, no boarding/deboarding is allowed. Many employees and most customers cant even get to the businesses... SO all the business owners said eff this and have closed their doors for this period.

So while they talk economic recovery, this city itself has a 3 day of deadness.

There will be no economic benefit to the city from holding G20.

Economic development officials anticipate a positive $35 million dollar impact.

It also offers them a chance to show itself off on the global stage. Pittsburgh has rebuilt itself from the 'Steel Curtain' days of the 1970s. They have made a substantial economic and environmental transition. Kinda proof of how good governance and foresight works.

That's why the OP is a joke and merely represents the opinion of the lunatic fringe.



Originally posted by: eskimospy
Why do people keep saying that the crowds in DC were estimated at over a million when that number has been proven to be falsely attributed, and the source quoted for it said the crowd was more like 65-75k, less than 1/10th of that?


You ... must ... drink ... more ... of ... the ... Kooooool ... Aiddddd ...



 

sao123

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Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
Originally posted by: sao123
Originally posted by: SirStev0
Yeah, I am sure the city of Pittsburgh absolutely hates the idea of all the money that will be brought in because of the summit. /eyeroll

right.... the entire city will be reaping money hand over foot... since 90% of it has been CLOSED into quarantine. No vehicles are allowed within a radius of several miles of the convention center. All public transportation is basically stopped, train service is only for passengers with a layover, no boarding/deboarding is allowed. Many employees and most customers cant even get to the businesses... SO all the business owners said eff this and have closed their doors for this period.

So while they talk economic recovery, this city itself has a 3 day of deadness.

There will be no economic benefit to the city from holding G20.

Economic development officials anticipate a positive $35 million dollar impact.

It also offers them a chance to show itself off on the global stage. Pittsburgh has rebuilt itself from the 'Steel Curtain' days of the 1970s. They have made a substantial economic and environmental transition. Kinda proof of how good governance and foresight works.

That's why the OP is a joke and merely represents the opinion of the lunatic fringe.



Originally posted by: eskimospy
Why do people keep saying that the crowds in DC were estimated at over a million when that number has been proven to be falsely attributed, and the source quoted for it said the crowd was more like 65-75k, less than 1/10th of that?


You ... must ... drink ... more ... of ... the ... Kooooool ... Aiddddd ...

most of that 35M impact is being spent at Joe Hardys resort down in the sticks about an hour outside of pittsburgh... Nemacolon. So thats a very skewed number.
 

PJABBER

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I notice a couple of new threads started about the festivities in Pittsburgh. It hasn't been that bad really. I mean, what are a few vandalized storefronts in Bloomfield, Pittsburgh?s Little Italy, compared to being able to express all those angry feelings of anarchy and progressiveness?

One million conservatives march on Washington and don't even leave trash. 2,000 (?) leftish wingnuts show up and the damage and disruption is priceless.

More on this in the other threads I'm sure. I need to run out and get another espresso before my local trattoria boards up!
 

kranky

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Bill Steigerwald makes valid points about the government of the City of Pittsburgh, but luckily the city itself is only a small fragment of the overall metropolitan area. For some reason the residents of the city will elect any Democrat who is on the ballot so the real election is done in the "smoky back rooms" where the party leaders decide who will be running. Nothing against the Democrats, but this system is why they are corrupt. Deals are made behind closed doors to determine who will run, and Election Day becomes merely a rubber-stamp.

Aside from the helicopters overhead at work all day yesterday and today (I'm about 3 miles from downtown) it's been quite dull. I think the media is actually disappointed in how little trouble there has been. When a small group of about 50 people broke some windows last night, they rushed a radio reporter on the air while she was gasping for breath (running to catch up to the hooligans to see exactly what was going on) and tried to make it sound as though a full-scale riot was taking place.

"I'm.... <gasp, gasp> about a block away from where the violence is taking place...<gasp, gasp> I can see... <gasp, gasp> a group of about 50...<gasp, gasp>... clouds of smoke... "

They made that poor lady stay on the air for about 5 minutes and she had nothing to add to the first sentence. They were just hoping things would escalate and they didn't.

The media is reporting that protest leaders who had summoned 5,000 of their cohorts to start some trouble are struggling to get a hundred or so. An attempted march into the restricted area yesterday was easily turned away and the protesters just walked away. Their big reaction was to push a metal dumpster down a hill at the police.