STFU Bush!

Foxery

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DEVELOPING STORY <image of Mr. Monkey>
Bush: U.S. is safer because of Iraq war
President Bush cited the overthrow of Saddam Hussein's regime as one of the "moments of triumph" in the Iraq war during a speech marking the five-year anniversary of the war. "Because we acted the world is better and the United States of America is safer."

The man doesn't care. He never has. Don't try to bring your crazy Earth logic into how he runs things!
 

GTaudiophile

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Originally posted by: RightIsWrong
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
The market will go down on his every word of denial...

Just can't stand to look at CNN's home page at the moment.

After hearing Obama speak yesterday and having to hear this village idiot speak today, is it any wonder why were are where we are and the only way to get out of it?

Not with the current crop of politicians I am afraid.

Instead of "How much money can the government give you (that it doesn't have)?"

The tone needs to be...

"Just how disciplined are you going to be with your money, because guess what, the government is shutting down for a while to clean some m-fing house!"

 

brandonb

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Bush and Co need to be hung from the nearest tree. They are the traitors to the American people.

(my arrest will be imminent due to patriot act/dhs/anti extremist act)
 

GTaudiophile

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Originally posted by: brandonb
Bush and Co need to be hung from the nearest tree. They are the traitors to the American people.

(my arrest will be imminent due to patriot act/dhs/anti extremist act)

If he were a man, he would have resigned a few years ago.
 

Dari

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Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Originally posted by: RightIsWrong
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
The market will go down on his every word of denial...

Just can't stand to look at CNN's home page at the moment.

After hearing Obama speak yesterday and having to hear this village idiot speak today, is it any wonder why were are where we are and the only way to get out of it?

Not with the current crop of politicians I am afraid.

Instead of "How much money can the government give you (that it doesn't have)?"

The tone needs to be...

"Just how disciplined are you going to be with your money, because guess what, the government is shutting down for a while to clean some m-fing house!"

Have you taken a look at Democratic v. Republican Presidents since Carter? Democrats have been far more frugal and responsible when it came to the economy. Republicans just spend everything away.
 

shira

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Bush said victory in Iraq demonstrates American resolve and will prevent attacks on targets in the United States.

"Defeating this enemy in Iraq will make it less likely we will face this enemy here at home," he said.

Once again, Bush is implying - just as his Administration did in the months leading up to the war - that the international terrorists that destroyed the WTC are the same people we're fighting in Iraq. And Bush has said that we first attacked Iraq - and were right to do so - in order to "fight them there so we won't have to fight them here."

In other words, Bush continues the big lie: that 9/11 and Iraq were and are connected.

Bush is a vicious, moronic, liar.
 

daveshel

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Propaganda 101:

1. The bigger the lie, the more believable it is
2. The more times you tell it, the more people will believe it

Thanks, Goebbels.
 

blackangst1

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Originally posted by: Foxery
Saved, for when the page changes:

DEVELOPING STORY <image of Mr. Monkey>
Bush: U.S. is safer because of Iraq war
President Bush cited the overthrow of Saddam Hussein's regime as one of the "moments of triumph" in the Iraq war during a speech marking the five-year anniversary of the war. "Because we acted the world is better and the United States of America is safer."

The man doesn't care. He never has. Don't try to bring your crazy Earth logic into how he runs things!

Prove its false.
 

Farang

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Problem with turning everything you say into a sales pitch is, people start to look at you as just a salesman.

</Moonbeam>
 

CycloWizard

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Originally posted by: shira
Once again, Bush is implying - just as his Administration did in the months leading up to the war - that the international terrorists that destroyed the WTC are the same people we're fighting in Iraq. And Bush has said that we first attacked Iraq - and were right to do so - in order to "fight them there so we won't have to fight them here."

In other words, Bush continues the big lie: that 9/11 and Iraq were and are connected.

Bush is a vicious, moronic, liar.
The implication is that extremists will go to Iraq to blow themselves up instead of coming here. You're simply jumping on a non sequitur because it makes Bush look even worse which, according to just about everyone, is completely unnecessary.
 

blackangst1

Lifer
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Im curious about something. Has there been any direct attacks on the USA including embassies, bases, war ships, etc SINCE 9/11? Of course we all know prior to that:

January 1975: USA, NYC, Bar Bomb 4 killed It is one of a series of 49 bombings between 1974 and 1977 attributed to the Puerto Rican National Liberation Army.

December 1975: USA, NYC, La Guardia Airport Bomb planted in luggage department 11 dead, 75 injured

May 1981 : USA, NYC, JFK Airport, toilet of Pan Am terminal Bomb 1 dead Puerto Rican Resistance Army.

August 1982: Honolulu, Hawaii. Pan Am airplane. Bomb 1 killed, several injured Palestinian terrorist Mohammad Rashid

April 1983: Beirut, U.S. Embassy Suicide car bomb 63 killed Radical Shiite Muslim group takes credit

October 1983: Beirut, U.S. Marine barracks Bomb 241 killed Lebanese Party of God faction

December 1983: Kuwait City, U.S. Embassy Suicide truck bomb Six killed; dozens injured 17 pro-Iranian terrorists convicted

September 1984: Beirut, U.S. embassy Suicide car bomb 16 killed Islamic Jihad claims responsibility

April 1985: Spain, Restaurant near U.S. Air Base Bomb 17 Killed

June 1985: TWA flight 847 Hijacking to Beirut One killed Lebanese Party of God faction

June 1985: El Salvador Machine gun 13 killed

August 1985, Germany, American base in Frankfurt car bomb Two killed, 20 injured

October 1985: Egyptian coast, Italian cruise ship Achille Lauro Hostage situation One killed Palestine Liberation Front

November 1985: Egypt Air flight 648 Hijacking to Malta 60 killed Abu Nidal's Arab Revolutionary Command

December 1985: Rome and Vienna Airport attacks at U.S. and Israeli airport check-in desks 16 killed

February 1986: Lisbon, U.S. embassy Car bomb No injuries Leftist guerrillas take credit

April 1986: West Berlin night club Bomb Three killed, 150 injured A Libyan diplomat, two Palestinians and two Germans

April 1986: Rome to Athens TWA flight Bomb Four killed Mohammed Rashid, Palestinian terrorist, members of Iraqi backed May 15 organization

June 1987: Rome, U.S. Embassy Rocket fired on embassy Minor injuries Japan-based Red Army terrorists

February 1988: Southern Lebanon Kidnapping One U.S. Marine executed Lebanese Party of God

March 1988: Bogota, Colombia Rocket- propelled grenade Minor damage Guerrilla group

December 1988: Lockerbie, Scotland, Pan Am flight 103 Bomb 270 killed Libyan intelligence agents

Feb 26 1993: USA, NYC, World Trade Center A bomb planted in an underground car parked at the World Trade Center 6 killed, 1000 injured Four Muslim fundamentalists are convicted of conspiracy and other charges related to the bombing, thought to have been ordered by Saudi terror master Osama bin Laden. In 1998, the so-called mastermind, Ramzi Ahmed Yousef, is convicted and sentenced to life plus 240 years in prison.

July 1993: Lima, Peru Bomb explodes in bus outside embassy One killed Shining Path guerrillas suspected

March 1995: Karachi, Pakistan, U.S. Consulate Murder Two American diplomats killed Possible retaliation for World Trade Center bombing conviction

April 19 1995: USA, Oklahoma City Car bomb left outside a federal building 168 killed, 600 injured Timothy McVeigh, 33, a member of an anarchist group hostile to the federal government, is convicted of the attack in 1997 and is executed in June 2001.

September 1995: Moscow, U.S. Embassy Rocket-propelled grenade Minor damage No suspects

Oct 1995: USA, train travelling between Miami and Los Angeles and derailed in Arizona Derailed by sabotage. Two of the bolts on one of the joints of the track were removed.
1 killed, 80 injured Previously unknown group calling themselves "The Sons of the Gestapo".

November 1995: Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, U.S. military headquarters Bomb Seven killed Four anti-royal Saudi Arabian dissidents, possible connections to Party of God an Iran; beheaded in Saudi Arabia

February 1996: Athens, U.S. Embassy Anti-tank missile attack No injuries National Struggle terrorist group

June 1996: Dhahran, Saudi Arabia, Khobar Towers Truck bomb 19 U.S. airmen killed Unknown

July 1996: USA, Centenary Park in Atlanta, Georgia. Olympic Games. Bomb 2 killed, 110 injured

November 1997: Karachi, Pakistan Murder of American oil-company employees Five killed Possible revenge for U.S. conviction of Pakistani for murders of two CIA agents

May 1998: Unabomber sentenced to life Parcel bombings 3 killed, 28 injured Theodore Kaczynski, alias the "Unabomber", is sentenced to life imprisonment for an 18-year campaign of parcel bombings as part of an "anti-modernist" crusade

June 1998: Lebanon, U.S. Embassy Rocket-propelled grenades No injuries

August 1998: Nairobi, Kenya, and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, U.S. embassies Simultaneous bombings 263 killed, 5000 injured Possibly Osama bin Laden, Saudi financier

October 2000: The Destroyer USS Cole in the Yemeni port of Aden Bomb blast 17 killed

September 11, 2001:
USA, NYC, World Trade Center, Pentagon, Pensylvania Airplane crashes Over 6000 killed, thousands injured Possibly Osama Bin Laden with the help of the Taliban and international cells and states.
 

Farang

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Originally posted by: blackangst1
Im curious about something. Has there been any direct attacks on the USA including embassies, bases, war ships, etc SINCE 9/11? Of course we all know prior to that:

. . .


September 11, 2001:
USA, NYC, World Trade Center, Pentagon, Pensylvania Airplane crashes Over 6000 killed, thousands injured Possibly Osama Bin Laden with the help of the Taliban and international cells and states.

Approximately 3,000 people were killed on September 11th, 2001. Another 3,992 American soldiers have been killed in Iraq since then. Perhaps you were trying to include them in your figure of 6,000.
 

blackangst1

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Farang
Originally posted by: blackangst1
Im curious about something. Has there been any direct attacks on the USA including embassies, bases, war ships, etc SINCE 9/11? Of course we all know prior to that:

. . .


September 11, 2001:
USA, NYC, World Trade Center, Pentagon, Pensylvania Airplane crashes Over 6000 killed, thousands injured Possibly Osama Bin Laden with the help of the Taliban and international cells and states.

Approximately 3,000 people were killed on September 11th, 2001. Another 3,992 American soldiers have been killed in Iraq since then. Perhaps you were trying to include them in your figure of 6,000.

Actually its killed + injured. Written misleadingly. I still wonder though. '83-'88 were banner years for the terrorists though!
 

Farang

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Originally posted by: blackangst1
Originally posted by: Farang
Originally posted by: blackangst1
Im curious about something. Has there been any direct attacks on the USA including embassies, bases, war ships, etc SINCE 9/11? Of course we all know prior to that:

. . .


September 11, 2001:
USA, NYC, World Trade Center, Pentagon, Pensylvania Airplane crashes Over 6000 killed, thousands injured Possibly Osama Bin Laden with the help of the Taliban and international cells and states.

Approximately 3,000 people were killed on September 11th, 2001. Another 3,992 American soldiers have been killed in Iraq since then. Perhaps you were trying to include them in your figure of 6,000.

Actually its killed + injured. Written misleadingly. I still wonder though. '83-'88 were banner years for the terrorists though!

I included an answer in my response, 3,992. So essentially, after September 11th, we handed the terrorists another 9/11 that also cost us a trillion dollars more than the original. How thoughtful of us.
 

Brigandier

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About 42000 people died in car accidents in 2001, just to throw some shiz in perspective.
 

NoStateofMind

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Originally posted by: Farang


I included an answer in my response, 3,992. So essentially, after September 11th, we handed the terrorists another 9/11 that also cost us a trillion dollars more than the original. How thoughtful of us.

Don't forget the 19,000 injured as well.
 

NoStateofMind

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Originally posted by: Brigandier
About 42000 people died in car accidents in 2001, just to throw some shiz in perspective.

One is much more preventable. Can you guess which one?

EDIT: You were correlating the terrorist attack of 9-11 only?
 

Brigandier

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Originally posted by: PC Surgeon

One is much more preventable. Can you guess which one?

EDIT: You were correlating the terrorist attack of 9-11 only?

Death totally isn't preventable.

To your edit: wha?

 

NoStateofMind

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Originally posted by: Brigandier
Originally posted by: PC Surgeon
Originally posted by: Brigandier
About 42000 people died in car accidents in 2001, just to throw some shiz in perspective.

One is much more preventable. Can you guess which one?

EDIT: You were correlating the terrorist attack of 9-11 only?

Death totally isn't preventable.

To your edit: wha?

War in Iraq is preventable.
 

jpeyton

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Originally posted by: blackangst1
Of course we all know prior to that:[/b]
How many of those attacks were connected with Iraq?
 

blackangst1

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: blackangst1
Of course we all know prior to that:[/b]
How many of those attacks were connected with Iraq?

It's irrelevant to my question. Since 9/11 how many have there been? 3? 1? 0? Why cant you just answer? Its not a trick question....

Here let me answer for you since you seem to not comprehend - Z E R O.

Compare that with any 7 year perion since 1975. Im not saying its BECAUSE of Iraq, Im simply stating the President's statement that we are safer seems to be true. Yeah I know you hate that, but it is what it is.

Now carry on with your GWB bashing. Didnt mean to interrupt with facts or anything.
 

Farang

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Originally posted by: blackangst1
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: blackangst1
Of course we all know prior to that:[/b]
How many of those attacks were connected with Iraq?

It's irrelevant to my question. Since 9/11 how many have there been? 3? 1? 0? Why cant you just answer? Its not a trick question....

You have been answered. The 23,000 American soldiers killed or injured since 9/11 in Iraq. Shall I repeat this a fourth time?