Steve Wozniak, co-founder of Apple, is planning to become an Aussie because...

BoberFett

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The reason the Australian government wants national broadband is not for the good of the citizens, it's so they can monitor everyone. Just look at what they've tried to do with private internet, they want to track everybody all the time.
 

pelov

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The reason the Australian government wants national broadband is not for the good of the citizens, it's so they can monitor everyone. Just look at what they've tried to do with private internet, they want to track everybody all the time.

How is this any different than what's been going on here? At least they're guaranteed some snappy google searches and their pr0n loads much faster.
 

bunnyfubbles

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that's a terrible reason. In realation to the rest of the world, Australia is basically "in the middle of nowhere"

sure, he might get great bandwidth speeds, but he'll still have horrible pings ;)
 

pelov

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the difference is that the US doesn't censor or shut off users from websites, unlike Australia.

They just use their weight to conduct a raid arresting a man in a foreign country, then refuse to show the evidence to a judge and a subsequent inquiry is launched into illegal spying

I don't know what fantasy America you guys are living in, but I'm wondering if you've got room for a spare bed?
 

CPA

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They just use their weight to conduct a raid arresting a man in a foreign country, then refuse to show the evidence to a judge and a subsequent inquiry is launched into illegal spying

I don't know what fantasy America you guys are living in, but I'm wondering if you've got room for a spare bed?

That has nothing to do with internet access. Isn't that what this thread is about?
 

mmntech

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The reason the Australian government wants national broadband is not for the good of the citizens, it's so they can monitor everyone. Just look at what they've tried to do with private internet, they want to track everybody all the time.

Australia definitely has some troubling issues when it comes to online privacy. They did seriously consider making a Chinese style "great firewall" at one point, under the guise of protecting kids from pedos. Then that document got leaked that showed they were blocking legit porn sites, online gambling, and the websites of random people.
 

Rumpltzer

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Hold on, what?

I heard he was moving 'cause he got fed up being too close to the dirty Canadians...
 

SSSnail

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The reason the Australian government wants national broadband is not for the good of the citizens, it's so they can monitor everyone. Just look at what they've tried to do with private internet, they want to track everybody all the time.

That's because they're all criminals, criminals I tell ya.
 

lothar

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Jan 5, 2000
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Stupid.
If he's only going there for broadband then he should go to either South Korea, Japan, Hong Kong, Netherlands, Sweden, or even move to Kansas City, MO where Google is rolling out their fiber connection.
Those countries have much faster broadband service than Australia will ever have.
 

RocksteadyDotNet

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Australia definitely has some troubling issues when it comes to online privacy. They did seriously consider making a Chinese style "great firewall" at one point, under the guise of protecting kids from pedos. Then that document got leaked that showed they were blocking legit porn sites, online gambling, and the websites of random people.

No, we never seriously considered doing that.

Jesus, why are Americans so fucking dumb?
 

StrangerGuy

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lolwut. 'Cause I'm pretty sure whenever I see an Aussie complain about something shitty Internets is more or less on top of the list.
 

KeithP

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Steve is going to be disappointed when they don't let him step foot on Australian soil for fear of sinking the place.

-KeithP
 

RossMAN

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http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/new-law-to-control-cyber-data-20120822-24mur.html

NEW laws will allow authorities to collect and monitor Australians' internet records, including their web-browsing history, social media activity and emails.

But the laws, which will specifically target suspected cyber criminals, do not go as far as separate proposed laws designed to retain every Australian internet user's internet history for two years in the name of national security.

Under the laws passed yesterday, Australian state and federal police will have the power to compel telcos and internet service providers to retain the internet records of people suspected of cyber-based crimes, including fraud and child pornography. Only those records made after the request will be retained, but law enforcement agencies will be prevented from seeing the information until they have secured a warrant.

It is believed that while some telcos and internet service providers keep data for up to a week, others routinely delete users' data daily, frustrating the ability of authorities to gather evidence against suspects.

Attorney-General Nicola Roxon said the laws would help police track cyber criminals globally and give authorities the power to find people engaged in forgery, fraud, child pornography and infringement of copyright and intellectual property. They also will allow Australia to join the Council of Europe Convention on Cybercrime, which has 34 members.

''Cyber crime is a growing threat that touches all aspects of modern life,'' Ms Roxon said. ''It poses complex policy and law enforcement challenges, partly due to the transnational nature of the internet.''

But Greens communications spokesman Scott Ludlam said the laws went further than the European convention, and that the government had failed to explain why the far-reaching powers were necessary.

The European convention states that the treaty is not focused on data retention but on targeting law enforcement.

Australia's new laws mean information can be kept at least until police get a warrant.

Senator Ludlam was particularly concerned the laws would allow data that implicates Australians in crimes that carry penalties of three years or more - including the death penalty - to be collected and analysed.

''The European Treaty doesn't require ongoing collection and retention of communications, but the Australian bill does,'' he said in a statement. ''It also leaves the door open for Australia to assist in prosecutions, which could lead to the death penalty overseas.''

The deadline for submissions to a parliamentary inquiry into the separate proposed national security laws closed on Monday and a parliamentary committee will report on the issue at a date to be decided.

Those proposals would allow the telephone and internet data of every Australian to be retained for up to two years and intelligence agencies would be given increased access to social media sites such as Facebook and Twitter.
 

0roo0roo

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the difference is that the US doesn't censor or shut off users from websites, unlike Australia.

hard to tell what direction they lean. effective bans on violent video games until recently, quota for women in boardrooms or whatever, and internet censorship...

haven't heard great things about internet speeds and prices in australia anyways.
"Pricing
In October 2008, the Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) compared countries where more than 50% of offers have bit/data caps. Australia was one of four countries of the 13 with caps where 100% of plan options had download caps and it ranked fourth in average download limit size (27MB). It ranked number one by a wide margin in the average price per additional MB after reaching the cap, at 0.103 USD. The second highest was Ireland at 0.018 USD per MB.[42] In a sample comparison of 27 countries, all in Europe and North America along with Japan, Korea, Australia, and New Zealand, between 2005 and 2008 inclusive, the fastest DSL service was Japan and Korea at 102,400 kbit/s. Australia was ranked fourth from the bottom at 1,536 kbit/s, above Greece, Spain and Mexico who were each 1,024 kbit/s. Cable internet in Australia ranked third in greatest increase in speed, from 2,880 kbit/s in 2005 to 20,000 kbit/s in 2008, compared to the other 27 countries. While all but two countries lowered their prices by an estimated average of 10% per year, Australia raised its prices by an average of 14% per year.[43]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_in_Australia#Pricing