A horse *is* a dangerous animal, that must be treated with respect. Any animal that can kill a guy in one quick motion is dangerous.
A guinea pig- not dangerous
a horse- dangerous
There is a difference between a highly experienced animal handler/wrangler having close encounters with dangerous animals and someone who hasn't a clue what they are doing. Only the latter is an idiot. If Steve didn't know what he was doing, he would have been killed or seriously maimed years ago by any of the highly dangerous animals he encountered, instead of a fairly benign critter due to a freak once-in-a-million injury.
Plenty of people get jabbed by stingray barbs, but deaths or serious injuries are extremely rare (virtually unheared of). Horses are vastly more dangerous in terms of the number of serious injuries or deaths related to them annually, but I doubt anyone would think it idiotic to ride or deliberately come in close proximity to a horse.
However, I admit Steve at times came across as reckless or irresponsible. Not that he was actually being reckless or irresponsible, but he made it very easy for uninformed others to conclude that he was.
Plenty of people get jabbed by stingray barbs, but deaths or serious injuries are extremely rare (virtually unheared of). Horses are vastly more dangerous in terms of the number of serious injuries or deaths related to them annually, but I doubt anyone would think it idiotic to ride or deliberately come in close proximity to a horse.
However, I admit Steve at times came across as reckless or irresponsible. Not that he was actually being reckless or irresponsible, but he made it very easy for uninformed others to conclude that he was.
Don Vito Corleone
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This thread is a great illustration of what I think might be the worst thing about this board: A very high percentage of this board consists of teenagers with relatively sheltered lives (which, in and of itself, is not a particularly bad thing), and these people are amazingly arrogant and sanctimonious about other people's actions. I was the same way when I was, say, 14 - 17, but that doesn't make it any less annoying to those of us with some life experience.
As to the topic at hand, RIP, Steve. You were imperfect, as are we all, but you lived with balls and gusto, and died as you lived. I hope wherever you are there are still snakes and crocs to wrangle!
As to the topic at hand, RIP, Steve. You were imperfect, as are we all, but you lived with balls and gusto, and died as you lived. I hope wherever you are there are still snakes and crocs to wrangle!
Lotheron
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Nothing shocking here, was bound to happen. Spare me the drama, the man was risking his life for a tv show. That is what is so retarded. And to those emotional people who don't want to trivialize death, it happens to thousands of people every day. Why should irwin's death be anymore special or more important than any other. Oh, that's right, because he did a tv show. He knew the risks and he had taken them, and now he died. Nothing shocking at all.
Don Vito Corleone
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Diving with a stingray is not "risking his life" - he was at far greater risk during the drive to his dive site. This was a purely fluky death.
Yeah, humans are the only ones to claim the right to defend themselves, allright :roll:
Sting Rays are not even deadly in general...just in certain circumstances...and they are by no means aggressive...
I have seen several divers seeing a Blue Spotted Stingray and thinking they should hug it...perhaps too many of this Manta-cuddling shows on TV... :roll: However...I pulled some leg to keep 'em off...
'cos you touch it, it will probably sting you. No big deal into the arm/leg of an healthy individual, but directly into a vital organ very serious...Just because an animal is dangerous doesn't mean you have to put it down. There are tons of dangerous animals out there, that doesn't mean that there's a worldwide manhunt to kill them.
Why are some people on this board so stupid that they come to non-logical conclusions on just about everything?
I think it has to do with what DonVito said.
Please show me one place in this thread where I said that the stingray was wrong, that it needs to be killed, or that it doesn't have any right to defend itself. Show me, you idiot.
All I said is that it's dangerous. A rattlesnake is also dangerous. That doesn't mean that I think they should be removed or that I want to kill it. Instead, since I'm smart and not one of these underaged internet punks, I'd simply stay away from it and not tempt it.
Exactly, this was not different from a 'daredevil' stunt pilot being killed, not because he pushed the limits of his aircraft or made a miscalculation during a stunt, but due to a mechanical failure completely unrelated to the stresses of stunt flying and can happen to any aircraft at any time.
Poulsonator
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Amen! Nobody here "knew" this guy, yet every response is like they lost a good friend. This guy got exactly what was coming to him.
1) Please take more care of your wording
2) Reread your post in context with the one you quoted. If no relation is intended, as a stand alone post you are marginally right, as a stingray is not deadly in general but in rare circumstances with a less than 0.1% chance...
TheSlamma
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Why do you 2 have the authority to care how other people feel? you both could die today and I wouldn't give a fvck.
Ever think people might miss seeing his fun TV shows? and maybe just enjoyed years of seeing him do what he did?
He did what he did because he had a family to provide for and also many other families (animals he helped and donated to). He could never have done what he did being at some desk job.
DivideBYZero
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Poulsonator
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I don't care how anybody else feels, that's their right...so why do you care how I feel?
But like you said, he was just a TV personality that NO ONE here knew outside of said TV show(s). There are much, much worse things happening in the world that people here don't give two sh!ts about, yet Steve "Crickey" Irwin gets 14+ pages?
Since I didn't know the man, I can only assume he died doing what he loved, which is something we can all dream about. However, he left his wife and two youngs kids without a father doing the thing he loved...pissing off animals. It was only a matter of time, and he got what was coming.
But like you said, he was just a TV personality that NO ONE here knew outside of said TV show(s). There are much, much worse things happening in the world that people here don't give two sh!ts about, yet Steve "Crickey" Irwin gets 14+ pages?
Since I didn't know the man, I can only assume he died doing what he loved, which is something we can all dream about. However, he left his wife and two youngs kids without a father doing the thing he loved...pissing off animals. It was only a matter of time, and he got what was coming.
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