Steve Fossett missing

[boomerang]

Took off 9:00AM Monday, not heard from since.

http://afp.google.com/article/...ZynKmFO3BssvRraEr_dPrQ

 

[theeedude]

Latest addition to my "When first class isn't good enough" list. Next to John Denver, Payne Stewart and JFK Jr, among others.

 

[imported_Shivetya]

Originally posted by: senseamp
Latest addition to my "When first class isn't good enough" list. Next to John Denver, Payne Stewart and JFK Jr, among others.

your an asshole, you know that?

Fosset is someone worth admiring for what he is willing to do and try.


then again you can't stop from attacking people who are better than you, meaning about anyone who did something successfully and well.

 

[Lemon law]

I hope he is found safe and sound but it does not look really bright given the probable scenarios.

 

[theeedude]

Originally posted by: Shivetya

Originally posted by: senseamp
Latest addition to my "When first class isn't good enough" list. Next to John Denver, Payne Stewart and JFK Jr, among others.

your an asshole, you know that?

Fosset is someone worth admiring for what he is willing to do and try.


then again you can't stop from attacking people who are better than you, meaning about anyone who did something successfully and well.

Right. You play w/ fire, you get burned. It's sad, but he knew the risks.

 

[JEDIYoda]

You will always people like Sensacamp who needs attention so much that he purposesly says things to push other peoples buttons!!!

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: Lemon law
I hope he is found safe and sound but it does not look really bright given the probable scenarios.

There are old pilots and there are bold pilots, but there are few old, bold pilots.

 

[Gneisenau]

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Lemon law
I hope he is found safe and sound but it does not look really bright given the probable scenarios.

There are old pilots and there are bold pilots, but there are few old, bold pilots.

Chuck Yeager. He may have calmed down in h is old age, but breaking the sound barrier was pretty bold.

 

[Lemon law]

For all we know he may have died in the cockpit of a heart attack. And if the plane is on autopilot it would fly on until it ran out of fuel. No sense speculating past the facts
about any reckless behavior.

 

[ayabe]

Originally posted by: Gneisenau

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Lemon law
I hope he is found safe and sound but it does not look really bright given the probable scenarios.

There are old pilots and there are bold pilots, but there are few old, bold pilots.

Chuck Yeager. He may have calmed down in h is old age, but breaking the sound barrier was pretty bold.

Chuck Yeager is Chuck Norris, seriously he IS the man. Any of us would kill to have lead the life he has.

"Yeager possessed outstanding eyesight (rated as 20/10, once enabling him to shoot a deer at 600 yards[5]), flying skills, and combat leadership; he distinguished himself by becoming the first pilot in his group to make "ace in a day": he shot down five enemy aircraft in one mission, finishing the war with 11.5 official victories, including one of the first air-to-air victories over a jet fighter (a German Me-262). Two of his "ace in a day" kills were scored without firing a single shot; he flew into firing position against an Me-109 and the pilot of the aircraft panicked, breaking to starboard and colliding with his wingman; Yeager later reported both pilots bailed out. An additional victory that was not officially counted for him came during the period before his combat status was reinstated: during a training flight in his P-51 over the North Sea, he happened on a German Ju-88 attacking a downed B-17 Flying Fortress crew. Yeager's quick thinking and reflexes saved the B-17 crew, but because he was not yet cleared for flying combat again, his gun camera film and credit for the kill were given to his wingman, Eddie Simpson. (Yeager later mistakenly recalled that the credit had given Simpson his fifth kill)."

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That being said, I hope Fossett is found alive and ok.

 

[1EZduzit]

A spokeswoman for the Civil Air Patrol, an auxiliary of the U.S. Air Force Tuesday said 13 aircraft are searching the rugged terrain of western Nevada, where Fossett took off in a single engine plane early Monday.

She said Fossett was flying south to look for dry lake beds for work he had planned for the future, and was expected to return by noon.

US Adventurer Steve Fossett Missing

MINDEN, Nev. (AP) ? Millionaire adventurer Steve Fossett, who has cheated death time and again in his successful pursuit of aviation records, was missing Tuesday after taking off in a single-engine plane the day before to scout locations for a land-speed record, officials said.
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Branson said in a statement that Fossett's flight Monday was preparation for a shot at yet another mark: He was searching for dry lake beds that might be suitable for an attempt to break the land speed record in a car.

Fossett was flying solo and was carrying four full tanks of gas on board, Branson said.

"Steve is a tough old boot. I suspect he is waiting by his plane right now for someone to pick him up," he said. "The ranch he took off from covers a huge area, and Steve has had far tougher challenges to overcome in the past. Based on his track record, I feel confident we'll get some good news soon."

Fossett has an application pending before the U.S. Bureau of Land Management for a permit to attempt the land-speed record on federal land in north-central Nevada's Eureka County, more than 150 miles away, BLM officials said Tuesday.
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Ryan described Fossett's plane as a Bellanca Citabria Super Decathalon, blue and white with orange stripes and blue sunburst designs on the wings. The two-seat tandem "tail dragger" is capable of aerobatic maneuvers, Ryan said.

Adventurer Steve Fossett's Plane Missing

Well, he was in a good solid airplane that should have been capable of sitting down just about anyplace so chances are fair they might find him alive yet. :thumbsup:

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: Gneisenau

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Lemon law
I hope he is found safe and sound but it does not look really bright given the probable scenarios.

There are old pilots and there are bold pilots, but there are few old, bold pilots.

Chuck Yeager. He may have calmed down in h is old age, but breaking the sound barrier was pretty bold.

Yeager was only 23 or 24 when he broke the sound barrier, definitley bold, but not old.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuck_Yeager

In 1962, after completion of a year's studies at the Air War College, he was the first commandant of the USAF Aerospace Research Pilot School, which produced astronauts for NASA and the USAF, after its redesignation from the USAF Flight Test Pilot School. It was a flying accident during a test flight in one of the school's NF-104s that put an end to his record attempts. Between December 1963 and January 1964,[14] Yeager completed five flights in the NASA M2-F1 lifting body.

http://www.check-six.com/Crash...NF-104A_crash_site.htm

?On December 10, 1963, while testing an NF-104A rocket-augmented aerospace trainer, he narrowly escaped death when his aircraft went out of control at 108,700 feet (nearly 21 miles up) and crashed. He parachuted to safety at 8,500 feet after vainly battling to gain control of the powerless, rapidly falling craft. In this incident he became the first pilot to make an emergency ejection in the full pressure suit needed for high altitude flights.? (from the biography of Gen. Yeager)

So he would have been 40 when he decided to quit breaking records. Still not all that old.

 

[theeedude]

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
You will always people like Sensacamp who needs attention so much that he purposesly says things to push other peoples buttons!!!

There you go with the personal attacks. This thread is about Steve Fossett, not me. :roll:

 

[Lemon law]

Not sure exactly when the search started but its now full dark in Nevada now so any visual search will probably be futile until tomorrow morning. But its also possible he will walk out to a road and be found at any time. Almost any hope of finding him uninjured just about has to hinge on radio failure on the aircraft.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: Lemon law
Not sure exactly when the search started but its now full dark in Nevada now so any visual search will probably be futile until tomorrow morning. But its also possible he will walk out to a road and be found at any time. Almost any hope of finding him uninjured just about has to hinge on radio failure on the aircraft.

He could have had some kind of electrical problem that killed the engine and disabled the radios. The plane should have a ELT (Emergency Locator Transmitter) which would activate (supposedly) in the event of a crash, but that doesn't mean it did.

information on the differences between 121.5 MHz Beacons and 406 MHz beacons

One would think that since the plane belongs to the Hilton organization they would have the good 406 MHz ELT in it??

 

[1EZduzit]

Ryan said Tuesday authorities were analyzing information from radar intelligence to track Fossett.

Helicopters and planes from Naval Air Station Fallon, the Nevada Air National Guard and the California Highway Patrol are helping in the search.

There has been no sound detected from the plane's emergency locator radio beacon, which goes off if there is a hard impact.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/09/05/fossett.missing/

Still no Steve.

Fossett's plane, a Bellanca Citabria Super Decathlon, carries a locator that sends a satellite signal after a rough landing. However, a signal has yet to be received, which is positive news according to Miller.


"Those things fail very, very rarely, so again what we're just hoping is that he's sitting safe and sound."

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/Arti...0070905?hub=TopStories

As i suspected, he had the "good" emergency beacon. The fact that there is no signal is not good news.

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: senseamp
Latest addition to my "When first class isn't good enough" list. Next to John Denver, Payne Stewart and JFK Jr, among others.

So much for the concept of "compassionate liberal"...

just sick.

 

[theeedude]

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: senseamp
Latest addition to my "When first class isn't good enough" list. Next to John Denver, Payne Stewart and JFK Jr, among others.

So much for the concept of "compassionate liberal"...

just sick.

Right, putting someone on the "when first class isn't good enough" list doesn't mean I don't feel compassion for them. I felt bad for JFK Jr, but that doesn't change the fact that if he flew commercial, he probably wouldn't have killed himself and his family. At least Fossett didn't take anyone else with him.

 

[Lemon law]

Senseamp, we are talking about Steve Fossett here, the quintessential definition of American rugged individualism. To even hint he might be mortal or could possible be taken out by any less than atomic powered artillery is a complete insult to compassionate conservatives and violates the very principles of political correctness. Now if we were talking about some foreigner, especially of the Muslim variety, they would be cheering you on. And such a foreign pilot is found alive, they in their very compassion would rush to help bury any survivors.

 

[jjzelinski]

Unfortunately he neglected to file a flight plan. Hope he lives to regret it, they're there for a reason.

 

[StageLeft]

He's probably done in, which is a shame, but likely the way he always wanted to go. Certainly a more notable life than most will have.

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: jjzelinski
Unfortunately he neglected to file a flight plan. Hope he lives to regret it, they're there for a reason.

He can't file a flight plan that says "I'm going to randomly fly over 3,000 square miles looking for dry lake beds" really now can he?

PS: I like how the thread devolved into a partisan pissing match in like 8 posts

 

[Fern]

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: senseamp
Latest addition to my "When first class isn't good enough" list. Next to John Denver, Payne Stewart and JFK Jr, among others.

So much for the concept of "compassionate liberal"...

just sick.

Right, putting someone on the "when first class isn't good enough" list doesn't mean I don't feel compassion for them. I felt bad for JFK Jr, but that doesn't change the fact that if he flew commercial, he probably wouldn't have killed himself and his family. At least Fossett didn't take anyone else with him.

How the hell could he fly commercial?

You do know he was scouting for a location to attempt a land speed record or something? Since when can you do that on a commercial flight?
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I wouldn't give up hope on him yet, he's been known to hike out 30 miles or so from crash sites etc.

Fern

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Lemon law
Senseamp, we are talking about Steve Fossett here, the quintessential definition of American rugged individualism. To even hint he might be mortal or could possible be taken out by any less than atomic powered artillery is a complete insult to compassionate conservatives and violates the very principles of political correctness. Now if we were talking about some foreigner, especially of the Muslim variety, they would be cheering you on. And such a foreign pilot is found alive, they in their very compassion would rush to help bury any survivors.

Could the 2 of you please stop trolling? Neither of you are even remotely close to reality. kthxbye

 

[Lemon law]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Lemon law
Senseamp, we are talking about Steve Fossett here, the quintessential definition of American rugged individualism. To even hint he might be mortal or could possible be taken out by any less than atomic powered artillery is a complete insult to compassionate conservatives and violates the very principles of political correctness. Now if we were talking about some foreigner, especially of the Muslim variety, they would be cheering you on. And such a foreign pilot is found alive, they in their very compassion would rush to help bury any survivors.

Could the 2 of you please stop trolling? Neither of you are even remotely close to reality. kthxbye

In case you did not notice Vic, I was defending senseamp who got jumped on and unfairly savaged for even daring to suggest that flying in small planes can be a hazardous. And given the very people doing the savaging, I suggested a reason given their past posts on other threads. I do note I made some very reality based posts on this thread and so did quite a few others. Read at least the entire thread before jumping to unwarranted conclusions.