Stem cells used for 'natural' boob jobs

[Queasy]

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WOMEN may be able to undergo a "natural" form of breast enlargement using their own stem cells and fat.
The technique, pioneered in Japan, results in breasts that look and feel smoother than conventional cosmetic surgery using implants.

Stem cells, which have the potential to change into any cells in the body, are found in embryos, but the most plentiful supply in adults is from body fat. When body fat is transferred to the breasts, the stem cells enable the fat to grow its own blood supply, thus becoming an integral part of the breast rather than a foreign object.

Dozens of women in Japan have received the enlargements during trials. This month, German authorities gave approval to the process. Under EU rules, this means that the procedure is now legal throughout Europe, including Britain.

But Australian women may have to wait for the procedure to become widely available because of litigation concerns.

Michael Zacharia, president of the Australasian College of Cosmetic Surgery, said the technique could make the detection of subsequent breast cancer more difficult.

While the procedure "gives a very nice natural result", he said it could be hard to determine whether changes occurring in a breast were as a result of cancer or the fat transfer.

"Medical insurance companies just refuse to cover it," he said.

In a separate development, scientists have unearthed a genetic mutation that gives one in four women a small shield against breast cancer.

This is the first concrete discovery of a common gene linked to the disease, and is the biggest breast cancer find since two rare and high-risk genes were identified a decade ago.

Australian researchers contributed to the international study which found a genetic variation that gives some women a 10 per cent reduced risk of breast cancer.

Everyone has the gene, called Caspase 8, but 25 per cent of women of European descent have a mutated variation which gives them a little protection. And 2 per cent have two variations, giving them twice the defence.

Leader of the Australian research arm, Georgia Chenevix-Trench from the Queensland Institute of Medical Research, said confirmation of a low-risk gene for breast cancer was significant.

It has no immediate implications for women already diagnosed with breast cancer, but Dr Chenevix-Trench said researchers expected to unearth similar genes which women could eventually be screened for.

"After that we can start to think about testing protocols to see whether it's worth identifying women who have multiple variants," Dr Chenevix-Trench said.

The results are published in the journal Nature Genetics.

 

[j00fek]

:thumbsup:

 

[biggestmuff]

If someone has gene therapy via stem cells, does that modify that individual's genetic makeup? For example, would the Japanese women who had the large breast therapy performed pass the large breast gene on to their offsprings?

 

[brandonb]

Originally posted by: biggestmuff
If someone has gene therapy via stem cells, does that modify that individual's genetic makeup? For example, would the Japanese women who had the large breast therapy performed pass the large breast gene on to their offsprings?

I'm assuming the DNA wouldn't be affected. I don't believe that changes from the day of conception. There's other sequences that do change over time (to make us age, etc) but I doubt breast size is part of it.

Regardless, I hope it's not, we play enough "God" as is.

 

[biggestmuff]

Originally posted by: brandonb

Originally posted by: biggestmuff
If someone has gene therapy via stem cells, does that modify that individual's genetic makeup? For example, would the Japanese women who had the large breast therapy performed pass the large breast gene on to their offsprings?

I'm assuming the DNA wouldn't be affected. I don't believe that changes from the day of conception. There's other sequences that do change over time (to make us age, etc) but I doubt breast size is part of it.

Regardless, I hope it's not, we play enough "God" as is.

Okay, then. So this is just another form of falsely advertising one's genetic makeup.

 

[NanoStuff]

Originally posted by: biggestmuff
If someone has gene therapy via stem cells, does that modify that individual's genetic makeup? For example, would the Japanese women who had the large breast therapy performed pass the large breast gene on to their offsprings?

Stem cells are not gene therapy, two very different things. Stem cells can be derived from somatic nuclear transfer, which will modify a stem cell line to your genes, with the exception of mtDNA, but this is difficult and expensive at the moment so in most cases the best known match for your immune system is used. So in that case, yes you have DNA that is not your own. I suppose you can consider yourself a chimera at that point. An no, it's not passed to the offspring.

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: NanoStuff

Originally posted by: biggestmuff
If someone has gene therapy via stem cells, does that modify that individual's genetic makeup? For example, would the Japanese women who had the large breast therapy performed pass the large breast gene on to their offsprings?

Stem cells are not gene therapy, two very different things. Stem cells can be derived from somatic nuclear transfer, which will modify a stem cell line to your genes, with the exception of mtDNA, but this is difficult and expensive at the moment so in most cases the best known match for your immune system is used. So in that case, yes you have DNA that is not your own. I suppose you can consider yourself a chimera at that point. An no, it's not passed to the offspring.

The stem cells involved in the procedure in the OP are non-embryonic. They are derived from fat in the body instead...so, in this case, it sounds like there shouldn't be any concerns about DNA that is not your own.

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

This is why the Japanese are smarter than us. We look at it as a way to cure diseases. They look at it as a way to make the world better and make Japanese women even sexier with large natural breasts.

 

[astrosfan90]

As no one has said it yet...this thread is useless without pics.

 

[interchange]

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: NanoStuff

Originally posted by: biggestmuff
If someone has gene therapy via stem cells, does that modify that individual's genetic makeup? For example, would the Japanese women who had the large breast therapy performed pass the large breast gene on to their offsprings?

Stem cells are not gene therapy, two very different things. Stem cells can be derived from somatic nuclear transfer, which will modify a stem cell line to your genes, with the exception of mtDNA, but this is difficult and expensive at the moment so in most cases the best known match for your immune system is used. So in that case, yes you have DNA that is not your own. I suppose you can consider yourself a chimera at that point. An no, it's not passed to the offspring.

The stem cells involved in the procedure in the OP are non-embryonic. They are derived from fat in the body instead...so, in this case, it sounds like there shouldn't be any concerns about DNA that is not your own.

Plus, a woman is born with all of the eggs she will produce in a lifetime, unlike men who continually produce sperm.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: interchange
Plus, a woman is born with all of the eggs she will produce in a lifetime

didn't i see something recently where that isn't the case?

 

[randay]

Who the fvck cares about boobs anymore! I want a bigger johnson!

 

[Schadenfroh]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: interchange
Plus, a woman is born with all of the eggs she will produce in a lifetime

didn't i see something recently where that isn't the case?

What interchange stated is what I was taught in my freshman zoology classes, sophomore anatomy & physiology classes, and my junior genetics class.

Found a link:
http://biology.clc.uc.edu/Courses/bio104/meiosis.htm

A baby girl is born with all the precursor egg cells she will ever have in a sort-of "suspended animation" until puberty

 

[FoBoT]

this is recockulous

 

[Gulzakar]

Stem Cells saving lives is a great thing...brings hope to my heart...

Stem Cells bringing bigger, more natural t!tties... brings tears to my eyes.

 

[Ktulu]

Originally posted by: randay
Who the fvck cares about boobs anymore! I want a bigger johnson!

Everybody point and laugh at Randay, he just admitted he has a small johnson. :laugh:

 

[FoBoT]

this is the real thread

searching for "stem" gets you this real thread and that other fake one that is a repost

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: interchange
Plus, a woman is born with all of the eggs she will produce in a lifetime

didn't i see something recently where that isn't the case?

What interchange stated is what I was taught in my freshman zoology classes, sophomore anatomy & physiology classes, and my junior genetics class.

Found a link:
http://biology.clc.uc.edu/Courses/bio104/meiosis.htm

A baby girl is born with all the precursor egg cells she will ever have in a sort-of "suspended animation" until puberty

right, i remember being taught that as well. but i also remember some news article just a short while ago saying that was wrong, that researchers had discovered that females produce eggs later.

 

[SSP]

Originally posted by: randay
Who the fvck cares about boobs anymore! I want a bigger johnson!

Sign up for hotmail. You will find an answer there.

 

[slikmunks]

ugh, shouldn't stem cell research be geared towards something that could save actual lives instead of aesthetics?

 

[Schadenfroh]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: interchange
Plus, a woman is born with all of the eggs she will produce in a lifetime

didn't i see something recently where that isn't the case?

What interchange stated is what I was taught in my freshman zoology classes, sophomore anatomy & physiology classes, and my junior genetics class.

Found a link:
http://biology.clc.uc.edu/Courses/bio104/meiosis.htm

A baby girl is born with all the precursor egg cells she will ever have in a sort-of "suspended animation" until puberty

right, i remember being taught that as well. but i also remember some news article just a short while ago saying that was wrong, that researchers had discovered that females produce eggs later.

If you find a link to said article, please send me a PM about it.

<--- Biology major, interested

 

[zylander]

Originally posted by: slikmunks
ugh, shouldn't stem cell research be geared towards something that could save actual lives instead of aesthetics?

whats wrong with using it for both?

 

[MrsBugi]

The Japanese clinic offering the stem cell implant surgery has a website here with before/after pictures, etc.

The fee for the procedure is 3 million yen, which equals roughly $25,000 USD if I'm not mistaken.

That's about 3-10x the going rate for a breast augmentation procedure here in the US. :shocked:

 

[Ktulu]

Originally posted by: slikmunks
ugh, shouldn't stem cell research be geared towards something that could save actual lives instead of aesthetics?

Didn't you know, staring at boobs relieves stress. :roll:

 

[slikmunks]

Originally posted by: zylander

Originally posted by: slikmunks
ugh, shouldn't stem cell research be geared towards something that could save actual lives instead of aesthetics?

whats wrong with using it for both?

nothing, but you figure that saving lives is more important than bigger boobs... altho that's just the viewpoint of someone who sees myeloma, leukemia and hodgkins disease from peoples that he knows and he knows are suffering... *shrugs*