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Stem cell research- This looks really interesting.

Wow, that is some great news if it pans out to be true. This would be a gigantic breakthrough in modern medicine. I just sent the link to my friend who is paralyzed from the neck down. His spirits have been down lately and hopefully this will get him thinking positively again.
 
the south park episode about stem cells is hilarious

thats about all i have to say on the subject 🙂
 
Originally posted by: franguinho
the south park episode about stem cells is hilarious

thats about all i have to say on the subject 🙂

look, it's another sharkeys!!! It's a miracle!
 
The white blood stem cells they are talking about are actually adult bone marrow stem cells. The adult stem cells located in the bone marrow are very flexible, in that they can be coaxed to becoming other kind of cells (not just the predetermined white blood cells). The problem is that adult stem cells cannot be used to grow organs. Only embryonic stem cells can be used to grow organs that the body will not reject. The current idea is to use cloned embryonic stem cells (start the cloning process of you, and then take the stem cells when the egg splits to around 100-200 cells). These cells will have your exact DNA and the body will not reject them. The problem occurs when ethics come into play. Does this gob of 200 cells have the same rights as the person that they will be used to save? I say no, but too many people say yes.

EDIT: Also, this is old news (well not old, but has been done). The Texas Heart Institue has used bone marrow stem cells to rejuvinate dying hearts. They take these stem cells and implant them within the hearts of heart attack patients, and the hearts go from barely functioning to nearly perfect condition.
 
Originally posted by: KraziKid
The white blood stem cells they are talking about are actually adult bone marrow stem cells. The adult stem cells located in the bone marrow are very flexible, in that they can be coaxed to becoming other kind of cells (not just the predetermined white blood cells). The problem is that adult stem cells cannot be used to grow organs. Only embryonic stem cells can be used to grow organs that the body will not reject. The current idea is to use cloned embryonic stem cells (start the cloning process of you, and then take the stem cells when the egg splits to around 100-200 cells). These cells will have your exact DNA and the body will not reject them. The problem occurs when ethics come into play. Does this gob of 200 cells have the same rights as the person that they will be used to save? I say no, but too many people say yes.

EDIT: Also, this is old news (well not old, but has been done). The Texas Heart Institue has used bone marrow stem cells to rejuvinate dying hearts. They take these stem cells and implant them within the hearts of heart attack patients, and the hearts go from barely functioning to nearly perfect condition.
Where "too many people" = Jesus freaks and the bibles that thump them.


 
Originally posted by: iwearnosox
Originally posted by: KraziKid
The white blood stem cells they are talking about are actually adult bone marrow stem cells. The adult stem cells located in the bone marrow are very flexible, in that they can be coaxed to becoming other kind of cells (not just the predetermined white blood cells). The problem is that adult stem cells cannot be used to grow organs. Only embryonic stem cells can be used to grow organs that the body will not reject. The current idea is to use cloned embryonic stem cells (start the cloning process of you, and then take the stem cells when the egg splits to around 100-200 cells). These cells will have your exact DNA and the body will not reject them. The problem occurs when ethics come into play. Does this gob of 200 cells have the same rights as the person that they will be used to save? I say no, but too many people say yes.

EDIT: Also, this is old news (well not old, but has been done). The Texas Heart Institue has used bone marrow stem cells to rejuvinate dying hearts. They take these stem cells and implant them within the hearts of heart attack patients, and the hearts go from barely functioning to nearly perfect condition.
Where "too many people" = Jesus freaks and the bibles that thump them.

Well, I wanted to say that, but I didn't want to be that blunt.

EDIT: Also, to add to this, a university in Tokyo has taken embryonic tadpole cells to grow frog eyes. They then took out the eyes of tadpoles and inserted these "grown" eyes. They were then able to see on the adult frogs whether the eyes worked. On this kind of frog, if the frog was blind, it was a dark color, and if it could see, even in one eye, it was white. There was just a TV program on a couple of hours ago about this too.
 
Originally posted by: KraziKid
The white blood stem cells they are talking about are actually adult bone marrow stem cells. The adult stem cells located in the bone marrow are very flexible, in that they can be coaxed to becoming other kind of cells (not just the predetermined white blood cells). The problem is that adult stem cells cannot be used to grow organs. Only embryonic stem cells can be used to grow organs that the body will not reject. The current idea is to use cloned embryonic stem cells (start the cloning process of you, and then take the stem cells when the egg splits to around 100-200 cells). These cells will have your exact DNA and the body will not reject them. The problem occurs when ethics come into play. Does this gob of 200 cells have the same rights as the person that they will be used to save? I say no, but too many people say yes.

I know that nerve cells and muscle cells can be made from either, however you cannot grow a pancreas (lets say) out of any stem cell yet. I know companies working in adult stem cell research, and they do not see the limitations you present.
 
Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
Originally posted by: KraziKid
The white blood stem cells they are talking about are actually adult bone marrow stem cells. The adult stem cells located in the bone marrow are very flexible, in that they can be coaxed to becoming other kind of cells (not just the predetermined white blood cells). The problem is that adult stem cells cannot be used to grow organs. Only embryonic stem cells can be used to grow organs that the body will not reject. The current idea is to use cloned embryonic stem cells (start the cloning process of you, and then take the stem cells when the egg splits to around 100-200 cells). These cells will have your exact DNA and the body will not reject them. The problem occurs when ethics come into play. Does this gob of 200 cells have the same rights as the person that they will be used to save? I say no, but too many people say yes.

I know that nerve cells and muscle cells can be made from either, however you cannot grow a pancreas (lets say) out of any stem cell yet. I know companies working in adult stem cell research, and they do not see the limitations you present.

Actually you can grow any organ from embryonic stem cells. Look at my above post with the edit. Also, adult stem cells are very limited in what they can do. If the person has a genetic problem, these stem cells will also have this problem. Embryonic and cloned embryonic stemm cells can be filtered and have the genetic deficiency removed.
 
Originally posted by: KraziKid
Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
Originally posted by: KraziKid
The white blood stem cells they are talking about are actually adult bone marrow stem cells. The adult stem cells located in the bone marrow are very flexible, in that they can be coaxed to becoming other kind of cells (not just the predetermined white blood cells). The problem is that adult stem cells cannot be used to grow organs. Only embryonic stem cells can be used to grow organs that the body will not reject. The current idea is to use cloned embryonic stem cells (start the cloning process of you, and then take the stem cells when the egg splits to around 100-200 cells). These cells will have your exact DNA and the body will not reject them. The problem occurs when ethics come into play. Does this gob of 200 cells have the same rights as the person that they will be used to save? I say no, but too many people say yes.

I know that nerve cells and muscle cells can be made from either, however you cannot grow a pancreas (lets say) out of any stem cell yet. I know companies working in adult stem cell research, and they do not see the limitations you present.

Actually you can grow any organ from embryonic stem cells. Look at my above post with the edit.


When did they grow the pancreas?
 
Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
Originally posted by: KraziKid
Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
Originally posted by: KraziKid
The white blood stem cells they are talking about are actually adult bone marrow stem cells. The adult stem cells located in the bone marrow are very flexible, in that they can be coaxed to becoming other kind of cells (not just the predetermined white blood cells). The problem is that adult stem cells cannot be used to grow organs. Only embryonic stem cells can be used to grow organs that the body will not reject. The current idea is to use cloned embryonic stem cells (start the cloning process of you, and then take the stem cells when the egg splits to around 100-200 cells). These cells will have your exact DNA and the body will not reject them. The problem occurs when ethics come into play. Does this gob of 200 cells have the same rights as the person that they will be used to save? I say no, but too many people say yes.

I know that nerve cells and muscle cells can be made from either, however you cannot grow a pancreas (lets say) out of any stem cell yet. I know companies working in adult stem cell research, and they do not see the limitations you present.

Actually you can grow any organ from embryonic stem cells. Look at my above post with the edit.


When did they grow the pancreas?

I never said they did grow a pancreas. You say "pancreas (lets say)", and I said they grew an eye. You used a pancreas as an example, and I used an eye as an example.
 
What I want to know is when they're going to genetically modify bone marrow to create hemoglobin with a magnesium instead of iron center atom.

It would be cool to be able to get energy from light.. Even if we took on a green tint. 😀
 
Originally posted by: KraziKid
Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
Originally posted by: KraziKid
Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
Originally posted by: KraziKid
The white blood stem cells they are talking about are actually adult bone marrow stem cells. The adult stem cells located in the bone marrow are very flexible, in that they can be coaxed to becoming other kind of cells (not just the predetermined white blood cells). The problem is that adult stem cells cannot be used to grow organs. Only embryonic stem cells can be used to grow organs that the body will not reject. The current idea is to use cloned embryonic stem cells (start the cloning process of you, and then take the stem cells when the egg splits to around 100-200 cells). These cells will have your exact DNA and the body will not reject them. The problem occurs when ethics come into play. Does this gob of 200 cells have the same rights as the person that they will be used to save? I say no, but too many people say yes.

I know that nerve cells and muscle cells can be made from either, however you cannot grow a pancreas (lets say) out of any stem cell yet. I know companies working in adult stem cell research, and they do not see the limitations you present.

Actually you can grow any organ from embryonic stem cells. Look at my above post with the edit.


When did they grow the pancreas?

I never said they did grow a pancreas. You say "pancreas (lets say)", and I said they grew an eye. You used a pancreas as an example, and I used an eye as an example.

You said you can grow any organ from an embryonic stem cell. I say you cannot, at least not yet. The people I know in Cambridge are using adult stem cells to make different organ cell types That being the case, IF the day comes that whole organs can be produced, then they believe it can be used with the more plentiful adult cells.
 
Originally posted by: Eli
What I want to know is when they're going to genetically modify bone marrow to create hemoglobin with a magnesium instead of iron center atom.

It would be cool to be able to get energy from light.. Even if we took on a green tint. 😀

um, yeah. i kinda like deriving my energy from food and water. steak taste too good.


in any case, this is truly amazing, and I hope this leads to a cure for cancer and HIV.
 
Originally posted by: Linux23
Originally posted by: Eli
What I want to know is when they're going to genetically modify bone marrow to create hemoglobin with a magnesium instead of iron center atom.

It would be cool to be able to get energy from light.. Even if we took on a green tint. 😀

um, yeah. i kinda like deriving my energy from food and water. steak taste too good.

Or copper. Then you could be a Vulcan 😀
 
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