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Steele: African-Americans 'Really Don't Have A Reason' To Vote GOP

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Appearing Tuesday at DePaul University in Chicago, Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele said that the Republican Party has not given African-Americans a reason to vote for them.

"You really don't have a reason to, to be honest -- we haven't done a very good job of really giving you one. True? True," said Steele, the Chicago Sun-Times reports.

Steele said how the Republican party had been founded as a pro-civil rights party, with Frederick Douglass among its early members. However, Steele explained, the Republican Party has alienated those voters: "For the last 40-plus years we had a 'Southern Strategy' that alienated many minority voters by focusing on the white male vote in the South. Well, guess what happened in 1992, folks, 'Bubba' went back home to the Democratic Party and voted for Bill Clinton."
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This is the most honest statement I have heard from leadership in a long time. I might add if the GOP would actively purge themselves of the racist contingent it would help make blacks more comfortable in the GOP.
 
As long as the GOP refuses to embrace and institutionalize racism with programs like affirmative action, blacks will stay with the dems.
 
HomerJS said:
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This is the most honest statement I have heard from leadership in a long time. I might add if the GOP would actively purge themselves of the racist contingent it would help make blacks more comfortable in the GOP.
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I get a 404 page not found on your link so im not going to say much on it...But if he really said that then hes just another moron in the government. Reading between the lines, he is saying that black people need special treatment otherwise they will vote for Dems, since apparently the Dems are giving out/showing favortism to certain Ethnic or racial groups.

Besides that, what you said is stupid aswell. The vast majority of black people voted for Obama not because they loved his speeches...but simply because his skin is black. Go figure.
 
Slew Foot said:
Why would you vote for the GOP when the other guy is handing you out free money?
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I know, they only hand out free money if you're black. No white, asian, jew, arab, indian or other non-black has ever gotten a free penny from the govt.
 
The democrats strategy of engineering dependence on the government has been a stunning success.
 
Martin said:
Clearly black people are just lazy, freedom-hating bums - it has nothing to do with the kind of attitude on display here. You both seem like such welcoming, friendly people!
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How do you go from me wanting equal rights for all, to me hating black people?

Really, explain to me the reasoning you used to come up with this.
 
Why would the GOP want to attract votes from African-Americans when it can attract ever so many more votes from whites who oppose integration policies?

It basically comes down to the current policies and platforms of the given political parties, go back 50 years or more in time, and the GOP had a near monopoly over the African-American vote and the dems had the segregationists.

Worked maybe better for the dems then, as their so called solid south was more solid that the GOP solid South now. But the other problem for the GOP is that now its becoming more a regional than a national party.
 
GOP hasn't done a good job of giving whitey a reason to vote for GOP either, but the DNC has done a great job of giving me a reason to vote GOP
 
Lemon law said:
Why would the GOP want to attract votes from African-Americans when it can attract ever so many more votes from whites who oppose integration policies?

It basically comes down to the current policies and platforms of the given political parties, go back 50 years or more in time, and the GOP had a near monopoly over the African-American vote and the dems had the segregationists.

Worked maybe better for the dems then, as their so called solid south was more solid that the GOP solid South now. But the other problem for the GOP is that now its becoming more a regional than a national party.
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Yet its the Dems that are happily carrying out the "solution to the negro problem" perfectly according to plan.
 
Lemon law said:
Why would the GOP want to attract votes from African-Americans when it can attract ever so many more votes from whites who oppose integration policies?

It basically comes down to the current policies and platforms of the given political parties, go back 50 years or more in time, and the GOP had a near monopoly over the African-American vote and the dems had the segregationists.

Worked maybe better for the dems then, as their so called solid south was more solid that the GOP solid South now. But the other problem for the GOP is that now its becoming more a regional than a national party.
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lol They're more national than the Dems.

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So what has the democratic party done for minorities? I think the democratic party just weakens society. I guess what they see is the democrats are enablers that dont care if you have bad manners and no respect for authority and a complete breakdown of morals and self worth. The only message from the Democratic Party is that all people are complete and utter failures that need the government to survive. Meanwhile, the Democratic government just taxes everyone to death that dares to be successful and make something of themselves.

All I can say is Good Luck.

I dont see much of anything good in the Republican Party Either. I think people are tired of all these wars. There is not even a clear-cut enemy to even attack! Maybe it is time to quit defending other countries and step back a bit.
 
piasabird said:
So what has the democratic party done for minorities? I think the democratic party just weakens society. I guess what they see is the democrats are enablers that dont care if you have bad manners and no respect for authority and a complete breakdown of morals and self worth. The only message from the Democratic Party is that all people are complete and utter failures that need the government to survive. Meanwhile, the Democratic government just taxes everyone to death that dares to be successful and make something of themselves.

All I can say is Good Luck.

I dont see much of anything good in the Republican Party Either. I think people are tired of all these wars. There is not even a clear-cut enemy to even attack! Maybe it is time to quit defending other countries and step back a bit.
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Democrats are naive and cynical, Republican are incompetent and overly religious. Libertarians are too radical and their politicians are otherwise stupid.

Seriously, we need a nice moderate Libertarian movement (one that doesn't get its panties in a wad over things like the Census).
 
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I was watching a show on television last that that was looking at the meat packing industry. If there was ever an industry that made America look bad this is it. They care less for their workers than the meat they are cutting up. This is an example of what is wrong with America. Economy of scale is a system which increses abuse every time a business gets larger.
 
peonyu said:
I get a 404 page not found on your link so im not going to say much on it...But if he really said that then hes just another moron in the government. Reading between the lines, he is saying that black people need special treatment otherwise they will vote for Dems, since apparently the Dems are giving out/showing favortism to certain Ethnic or racial groups.

Besides that, what you said is stupid aswell. The vast majority of black people voted for Obama not because they loved his speeches...but simply because his skin is black. Go figure.
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So much bad ideology on the right.

Ya, any programs for the disadvantaged are 'bigotry' The country has no history and legacy of discrimination at all.

Here's discrimination for the right:

First, give one group - let's call them whites - huge advantage over another. Then call anything done to address that or its effects 'discrimination'.

I hear slaves used to demand special priviliges. Free housing! Free food! Who was giving their OWNERS free housing and food? No one! Poor, poor slaveonwers, so abused.

This is how gays demanding that discrimination and resticting of their equal rights is the 'gay agenda demanding SPECIAL rights'. Oh, the poor abused heterosexuals!
 
DukeN said:
I know, they only hand out free money if you're black. No white, asian, jew, arab, indian or other non-black has ever gotten a free penny from the govt.
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I have no problems with this. Only blacks were ever enslaved here in the US.
 
piasabird said:
I was watching a show on television last that that was looking at the meat packing industry. If there was ever an industry that made America look bad this is it. They care less for their workers than the meat they are cutting up. This is an example of what is wrong with America. Economy of scale is a system which increses abuse every time a business gets larger.
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Hence the popularity of using illegal imigrants who can be paid below minimum wage and have no rights and can be discarded if they complain or get injured.

Check out industries too like the chicken and pig factories - not only for the treatment of people but of animals and pollution.
 
piasabird said:
So what has the democratic party done for minorities? I think the democratic party just weakens society. I guess what they see is the democrats are enablers that dont care if you have bad manners and no respect for authority and a complete breakdown of morals and self worth. The only message from the Democratic Party is that all people are complete and utter failures that need the government to survive. Meanwhile, the Democratic government just taxes everyone to death that dares to be successful and make something of themselves.

All I can say is Good Luck.

I dont see much of anything good in the Republican Party Either. I think people are tired of all these wars. There is not even a clear-cut enemy to even attack! Maybe it is time to quit defending other countries and step back a bit.
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The most successful and self-made are... Democrats.
 
The statement itself was poorly worded, but the fact is that the percentage of blacks living in poverty or low-income areas is much higher than whites. People in need of help or people that just want help are more likely to vote for a liberal party.

To generalize and say that "x" group of people has no use for "y" political party is probably not a good idea, but generally speaking he is right.

The argument for why this is the case is a whole other debate. Personally I think that the pre-Civil War south created this issue to begin with, although some of the responsibility falls on the shoulders of the individuals that do not make an effort to get out of poverty - and their kids see this as normal, and their kids.. etc.
 
irishScott said:
lol They're more national than the Dems.

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The problem with your map as the red area is bigger than the blue, the dems have the blue where the most people are and the GOP has the red where the fewest people are.

If the USA voted by the acre, the GOP might win, but the USA votes by one eligible voter is
one vote.

As for my point about the former democratic solid South, your maps show long and continuous stripes of blue with frequent big blobs of blue.

Nor is the Irish Scott map a good predictor of overall political makeup, since red states outnumber blue states, it does not explain why a basic 3/5 of the Senate races went democratic in 2008, and the House democratic majority is almost as large.
 
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