stealing wireless in wrong

[thomsbrain]

do it on a college campus. nothing like uploading at 700 KB/s on someone else's bandwidth meter. from the parking lot, no less.

er, not that i would know. wardriving is bad, mmmkay?

 

[amdskip]

Hey, get off this wireless network. I'm using the schools wireless right now working at the helpdesk.

 

[thomsbrain]

Originally posted by: amdskip
Hey, get off this wireless network. I'm using the schools wireless right now working at the helpdesk.

yeah, i've got a pringles can antenna aimed right at illinois.

 

[bobbybe01]

whiskey, motha____, do you drink it?

 

[Encryptic]

Originally posted by: bobbybe01
whiskey, motha____, do you drink it?

Is that the kind of fill-in-the-blank problem they're assigning in school these days?

 

[3chordcharlie]

how do you react to things like wireless that's 'available' from your living room?

Example - I bought a wireless router a year ago since I already had a wireless laptop, and figured I might as well be able to use it at home, too.

What I discovered when I plugged it in was three networks already established (using the three viable channels), leaving me with three freely available internet sources, but no opportunity to set up the router I had bought.

It wasn't that big a deal, so I just did without wireless, and a couple of months later one of the networks disappeared, so now I have wireless (lots of rental turnover in a student neighborhood).

There's an interesting parallel in the cellphone industry. Businesses theoretically have the right to block cellular signals from their premises (but not to interfere with the signal beyond those premises). SImilarly wireless has a range, and it can't be assumed that you have the right to flood your neighbors with wireless signals, especially as it might interfere with their ability to use the same technology.

What's the etiquette here - absent a bandwidth cost, I can see an argument that if your neighbor's wireless prevents you from having your own, you're kind of justified in using theirs. Not sure if I buy the argument, but it's an interesting issue.

 

[konakona]

cant you set a security key to restrict unwanted access? i could be wrong tho, i am helpless when it comes to networking

speaking of which, i just noticed i could connect to neighbors' APs from my porch. Free internet, here i come!

 

[Gibson486]

Hmmm...I was wondering about this...When i got a PCcard for my laptop to use at school, i noticed that when i got home it showed that there were 3 networks that my card found. I tried connecting to one out of curiosity. It connected, but I could not surf the net. Oh well. Maybe i just connected wrong or something. I am noob when it comes to wireless networking.

 

[Train]

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
how do you react to things like wireless that's 'available' from your living room?

Example - I bought a wireless router a year ago since I already had a wireless laptop, and figured I might as well be able to use it at home, too.

What I discovered when I plugged it in was three networks already established (using the three viable channels), leaving me with three freely available internet sources, but no opportunity to set up the router I had bought.

It wasn't that big a deal, so I just did without wireless, and a couple of months later one of the networks disappeared, so now I have wireless (lots of rental turnover in a student neighborhood).

There's an interesting parallel in the cellphone industry. Businesses theoretically have the right to block cellular signals from their premises (but not to interfere with the signal beyond those premises). SImilarly wireless has a range, and it can't be assumed that you have the right to flood your neighbors with wireless signals, especially as it might interfere with their ability to use the same technology.

What's the etiquette here - absent a bandwidth cost, I can see an argument that if your neighbor's wireless prevents you from having your own, you're kind of justified in using theirs. Not sure if I buy the argument, but it's an interesting issue.

your router only had 3 available channels? wtf mine had like 15, and it was the cheapy off of amazon.

 

[OrganizedChaos]

Originally posted by: Train

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
how do you react to things like wireless that's 'available' from your living room?

Example - I bought a wireless router a year ago since I already had a wireless laptop, and figured I might as well be able to use it at home, too.

What I discovered when I plugged it in was three networks already established (using the three viable channels), leaving me with three freely available internet sources, but no opportunity to set up the router I had bought.

It wasn't that big a deal, so I just did without wireless, and a couple of months later one of the networks disappeared, so now I have wireless (lots of rental turnover in a student neighborhood).

There's an interesting parallel in the cellphone industry. Businesses theoretically have the right to block cellular signals from their premises (but not to interfere with the signal beyond those premises). SImilarly wireless has a range, and it can't be assumed that you have the right to flood your neighbors with wireless signals, especially as it might interfere with their ability to use the same technology.

What's the etiquette here - absent a bandwidth cost, I can see an argument that if your neighbor's wireless prevents you from having your own, you're kind of justified in using theirs. Not sure if I buy the argument, but it's an interesting issue.

your router only had 3 available channels? wtf mine had like 15, and it was the cheapy off of amazon.

they overlap each other

 

[forumJunkie]

I guess it's wrong but if the person doesn't know about putting a WEP key and protecting their bandwidth they shouldn't be setting up wireless networks in the first place.

However, when Wi-Max comes into play I would hope there is more added security

 

[MBony]

I googled "stealing wireless internet" and couldn't find any good debates on the subject. My friend in Boston just ran into this scenerio 2 days before he got cable internet installed. He used the downstream for 2 days before getting his own. But I'm curious the legality of if what he did was wrong or not. Can anyone point me to any good articles on this subject?

 

[Qwest]

try lookin up wardriving

 

[3chordcharlie]

Originally posted by: OrganizedChaos

Originally posted by: Train

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
how do you react to things like wireless that's 'available' from your living room?

Example - I bought a wireless router a year ago since I already had a wireless laptop, and figured I might as well be able to use it at home, too.

What I discovered when I plugged it in was three networks already established (using the three viable channels), leaving me with three freely available internet sources, but no opportunity to set up the router I had bought.

It wasn't that big a deal, so I just did without wireless, and a couple of months later one of the networks disappeared, so now I have wireless (lots of rental turnover in a student neighborhood).

There's an interesting parallel in the cellphone industry. Businesses theoretically have the right to block cellular signals from their premises (but not to interfere with the signal beyond those premises). SImilarly wireless has a range, and it can't be assumed that you have the right to flood your neighbors with wireless signals, especially as it might interfere with their ability to use the same technology.

What's the etiquette here - absent a bandwidth cost, I can see an argument that if your neighbor's wireless prevents you from having your own, you're kind of justified in using theirs. Not sure if I buy the argument, but it's an interesting issue.

your router only had 3 available channels? wtf mine had like 15, and it was the cheapy off of amazon.

they overlap each other

yeah, there's really only 3 viable channels when overlap comes into play.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Three networks, huh?

Three USB NICs, bridge the connection, and leech like a bastard.

- M4H

 

[dmurray14]

Originally posted by: thomsbrain
do it on a college campus. nothing like uploading at 700 KB/s on someone else's bandwidth meter. from the parking lot, no less.

er, not that i would know. wardriving is bad, mmmkay?

I am curious as to which wireless card and standard you are using which provides you with 700kb/s of uploading bandwidth to start with...

Dan

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: dmurray14

Originally posted by: thomsbrain
do it on a college campus. nothing like uploading at 700 KB/s on someone else's bandwidth meter. from the parking lot, no less.

er, not that i would know. wardriving is bad, mmmkay?

I am curious as to which wireless card and standard you are using which provides you with 700kb/s of uploading bandwidth to start with...

Dan

Uh ... 802.11b?

- M4H

 

[dxkj]

Originally posted by: dmurray14

Originally posted by: thomsbrain
do it on a college campus. nothing like uploading at 700 KB/s on someone else's bandwidth meter. from the parking lot, no less.

er, not that i would know. wardriving is bad, mmmkay?

I am curious as to which wireless card and standard you are using which provides you with 700kb/s of uploading bandwidth to start with...

Dan

School network... that 5.6 mbits right? B cards can do that let alone G cards?

 

[Ranger X]

I was once "borrowing" this one dude's internet outside his house and the owner pulled up and backed his car into my car on accident. It was dark so he was about to just bail until I turned on my headlights. LOL

 

[3chordcharlie]

Originally posted by: Ranger X
I was once "borrowing" this one dude's internet outside his house and the owner pulled up and backed his car into my car on accident. It was dark so he was about to just bail until I turned on my headlights. LOL

I didn't think there was a contest going on, but ladies and gentlemen, we have a WINNNAR!