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alkemyst

No Lifer
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I love how the naive blindly defend our government wholeheartedly. There is good and bad within and everyone has their own agendas regardless of what party they are from.
 

Nemesis 1

Lifer
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What about Aids. The tinfoil hat folks may have it right. Its scary but dems inpower will do anything. To further there agenda.
 

JSt0rm

Lifer
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I love how the naive blindly defend our government wholeheartedly. There is good and bad within and everyone has their own agendas regardless of what party they are from.


I find it interesting that those who don't trust the government with their tax dollars are usually the ones who would defend any military or other actions taken by the same government. It seems like a odd cognitive pathway.
 

Binarycow

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I find it interesting that those who don't trust the government with their tax dollars are usually the ones who would defend any military or other actions taken by the same government. It seems like a odd cognitive pathway.

it's always easiest stick one's head in the sand and ass up in the sky ignoring ethics and reasoning when they contradict one's belief.
 

RecoveryTTA

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Binary , i agree, i guess sometime, the truth, of what one person that does to another is beyond words. Sometimes ones actions are unforgivable. I think that in some ways forgiveness should be earned back for the harm put on others, even if the harm was from your own country. For humanity, i appologise for such, but maybe just maybe, in 40-50 years as you stated, people will know how to treat one another.
 

Medellon

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Call me naive if you will, I just have to hold my country to a much higher standard. It breaks my heart when I found out about something like this. It really does.

Umm you might want to look up a little something called slavery. It is hard to find any info on it but if you try hard enough you just may find something.
 

Binarycow

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Umm you might want to look up a little something called slavery. It is hard to find any info on it but if you try hard enough you just may find something.

Slavery, as condemnable as it was, was not done in covert and was not carried out by the very people that by any humanly standard should not have carried it out, namely the medical personnel in this case. They are the people who took the sacred oath of doing no harms, medically, to others.

The maliciousness of what had happened here, on my standard that I have for my country, is reprehensible and inexcusable. It is appropriate that both our President and SoS have apologized to their country on the behalf of ours. That is certainly the least we could do.

For you, Medellon, care a little more, love humanity a bit more, and certainly you need to love your country way more than you sounded here.
 

alkemyst

No Lifer
Feb 13, 2001
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Slavery, as condemnable as it was, was not done in covert and was not carried out by the very people that by any humanly standard should not have carried it out, namely the medical personnel in this case. They are the people who took the sacred oath of doing no harms, medically, to others.

The maliciousness of what had happened here, on my standard that I have for my country, is reprehensible and inexcusable. It is appropriate that both our President and SoS have apologized to their country on the behalf of ours. That is certainly the least we could do.

For you, Medellon, care a little more, love humanity a bit more, and certainly you need to love your country way more than you sounded here.

Hippocratic Oath is a bit more complex than that though and that's where the rub happens.

"Maybe these people are expendable for the greater good?"
 

al981

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"but but but, America can't even keep a blowjob in the whitehouse secret, imagine how many people would've had to be in on this to keep it secret. it's just not possible!!!!!"


:D
 

HomerJS

Lifer
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There goes that Apology Tour again. The US should never apologize for anything.
 

Scotteq

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Well we gave unit 731 immunity from prosecution for their "science" on biological warfare. Who's the asshole there?

I find it interesting that those who don't trust the government with their tax dollars are usually the ones who would defend any military or other actions taken by the same government. It seems like a odd cognitive pathway.


Thank you for the history lesson - one which I'm already very well aware of. Not like I didn't live in Japan for most of a decade, or anything. But apparently sarcasm (as well as the point) is lost on you.

I also highly appreciate your uninformed, baseless, and highly prejudicial judgements as to what I trust my government with and what I do not. You know - Despite my never giving any information as to what that stance is.

But whatever: Far be it from me to take an odd cognitive pathway by which I twist everything anyone says in an effort to both change the subject to my own personal agenta and also to percipitate an argument over same. But thank you for the lame attempt. :whiste:
 

alkemyst

No Lifer
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For what the Japanese have been accused of, they paid their price being nuked twice.

I learned a lot about Japan being married now for going on 8 years to a Japanese woman that only spent about 2 years in our country and almost 20 times that in her own when we met.

She went from computer programming to working in the retail market. Everyday is a story of how lazy the American worker is.

One thing Japan has down is perfection. It's only natural when the US and rest of the world were experimenting on PEOPLE to figure out how long a soldier could fight when severily fucked up that the Japanese would go above and beyond. In the end all of that is sad, but it's war and you can't really put rules on it although everyone tries.

The soldiers are always just some fucking kid that really could care less of the political agenda, but ends up facing himself in the mirror only his reflection is born of a different nationality.

I have one thing to say about Japan...out of everyone I have talked too, no one complains about their country. They admit it's hard work, but would never want to live here.

You can sit on the street in Japan at 2am as an 80lb woman and count money without fear of getting mugged. In the US, whip out a $1000 and do that and even some grandma is going to attempt to take your stash.

All that said, I don't see myself moving. I enjoy my freedoms here despite the safety there.
 

Scotteq

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Apr 10, 2008
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For what the Japanese have been accused of, they paid their price being nuked twice.....


That they did. :'(


To continue your example:
...or have a complete stranger notice you look lost, put you on the correct train, RIDE WITH YOU to make sure you get off at the correct station, and then get back on another train going the opposite direction so they can continue their day. :eek:

In the US.... You're on your own.


And one of the few things I don't miss about Japan is being functionally illiterate.
 

alkemyst

No Lifer
Feb 13, 2001
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yeah...in the beginning though the US was like this. It was violent too, but the average man made sure the down and out was up and better.

I really upset her lately. I have grown to a turning point more now than ever that too many people here just do some fucked up stuff.

Most never notice the things I see. When I point them out they want to change the subject instead of look at it.
 

FTM0305

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Anyone notice that when something horrible happens directly cause by US gov, its classified until all involved parties are dead or no longer liable due to statues of limitation?

Anyone else see something wrong with this?

I once heard it was a conspiracy theory that STDs were infected into black people. Most times the story includes AIDS, but with this development one can see how such urban legends/ conspiracy theories are based in a lot of truth.

Thank goodness for 9/11 conspiracy theorist, they were this close to not being crazy. Unless in 50 years we hear about more apologizes...

Remember the magic words in congressional hearing are: "I do not recall"
 

alkemyst

No Lifer
Feb 13, 2001
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Anyone notice that when something horrible happens directly cause by US gov, its classified until all involved parties are dead or no longer liable due to statues of limitation?

Anyone else see something wrong with this?

I once heard it was a conspiracy theory that STDs were infected into black people. Most times the story includes AIDS, but with this development one can see how such urban legends/ conspiracy theories are based in a lot of truth.

Thank goodness for 9/11 conspiracy theorist, they were this close to not being crazy. Unless in 50 years we hear about more apologizes...

Remember the magic words in congressional hearing are: "I do not recall"

thank you sir, we will get your message to him. thank you for being a concerned citizen.

MOVE ALONG!
 

Scotteq

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Apr 10, 2008
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Anyone notice that when something horrible happens directly cause by US gov, its classified until all involved parties are dead or no longer liable due to statues of limitation?

Anyone else see something wrong with this?


...just that it's the same approach used by every other government.