Status of Missing Navy Captain Changed

[MinorityReport]

Dave, you are taking a pretty shortsighted view of the world. If I were in the service, I would gladly surrender my life to prevent thousands upon thousands more deaths.

Hey, THAT is the reason he is in the service. Perhaps his comments show his narrow one track mind view of the world.
However, we are no one to judge that quality in him is right or wrong ...It may be good .. he is after all a protector an enforcer .. maybe being one track helps him achieve his goal.



We need our Captain Back .. and lets do it soon.

 

[UltraQuiet]

Dave, you are taking a pretty shortsighted view of the world. If I were in the service, I would gladly surrender my life to prevent thousands upon thousands more deaths.

There is nothing short-sighted about it. It is one thing to die in combat for your country. It is another thing altogether to be held in captivity, secretly, after hostilities have ceased. We don't know if he was tortured or if is even still alive so we won't go into it but the statement I made before stands. If any of this is true quick, decisive, violent action MUST be taken against Iraq immediately. Every person who is or has worn a military uniform will demand it.

Perhaps his comments show his narrow one track mind view of the world.

Fsck you.

Anyway here's a link to the story on CNN Pilot.

 

[Moonbeam]

We don't need any more reasonsd why Saddam shouldn't live past the day. That was true in 91. I have not been keeping up with the news so this is a guess, but I would say that if the Senate has not yet voted on Bush unleashed, then the intention is to add extra pressure that anybody who opposes him is a traitor and an Iraqi sympathiser. Just an opinion.

When the truth of your cause is unpersuasive, scum will resort to any tactic they can. Not many people would disagree, I think, were they of sufficient mental capacity as to not necessarily connect that statement with the first paragraph.

 

[308nato]

To have declared him captured without being ready to go get him would have been his death sentence if he was alive.

Since we are ready to go I would assume the time is right to change his MIA status.

This country has left a lot of sons and daughters on foreign soil unaccounted for over the years. I am not sure that I would be proud or happy about the reasons that has been the case in some instances.

However, if this man is alive and we can bring him HOME after all this time I do believe that I would consider it one of the most monumental events that I have ever seen in my life. Whatever the cost, if he is there and we know it to be so, he needs to be brought HOME now.

 

[shiner]

Funny how everyone seems to be up in arms about the status of the pilot being changed now and accusing Bush of manipulating the situation to his advantage. Why no mention of the fact that this man has been a prisoner for 12 years and nothing has been done about getting him back until now? It's also funny to me that those who accuse Bush of orchestrating this grand plot to deceive the American public are the same ones who routinely call him an idiot incapable of speaking. You chuckleheads can't have it both ways?..

 

[BDawg]

Originally posted by: shinerburke
It's also funny to me that those who accuse Bush of orchestrating this grand plot to deceive the American public are the same ones who routinely call him an idiot incapable of speaking. You chuckleheads can't have it both ways?..

No, you got it all wrong. Bush is an idiot. Powell, Rice, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Karl Rove are all absolutely intelligent people.

 

[shiner]

Originally posted by: BDawg

Originally posted by: shinerburke
It's also funny to me that those who accuse Bush of orchestrating this grand plot to deceive the American public are the same ones who routinely call him an idiot incapable of speaking. You chuckleheads can't have it both ways?..

No, you got it all wrong. Bush is an idiot. Powell, Rice, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Karl Rove are all absolutely intelligent people.

Just as I expected.....the old "Bush is a puppet" argument.

 

[Moonbeam]

Shinerburke, I can't wait till they discover the whereabouts of the stolen Kuwaiti incubators in a secret Iraqi warehouse with the remains of missing American children in them.

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: BDawg

Originally posted by: shinerburke
It's also funny to me that those who accuse Bush of orchestrating this grand plot to deceive the American public are the same ones who routinely call him an idiot incapable of speaking. You chuckleheads can't have it both ways?..

No, you got it all wrong. Bush is an idiot. Powell, Rice, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Karl Rove are all absolutely intelligent people.

Just as I expected.....the old "Bush is a puppet" argument.

Actually it further enforces the agurment. Bush was smart enough to pick people brighter than himself. If Bush was truely stupid, Powell, Ricem, Cheney and rumsfeld would not be there today.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: BDawg

Originally posted by: shinerburke
It's also funny to me that those who accuse Bush of orchestrating this grand plot to deceive the American public are the same ones who routinely call him an idiot incapable of speaking. You chuckleheads can't have it both ways?..

No, you got it all wrong. Bush is an idiot. Powell, Rice, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Karl Rove are all absolutely intelligent people.

Just as I expected.....the old "Bush is a puppet" argument.

Actually it further enforces the agurment. Bush was smart enough to pick people brighter than himself. If Bush was truely stupid, Powell, Ricem, Cheney and rumsfeld would not be there today.

Having no brains to know how to do something is one thing. Knowing where to go for answers is another thing. He could be a freaking idiot but still have chosen people who he knows have more experience than himself so that if he needs to, he's got one HELL of a cushin to fall back on.

That said, I think he's quite smart. Not elloquent, but being well versed in writing and delivering speaches hardly shows how well you plan and coordinate a country.

nik

 

[BDawg]

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

That said, I think he's quite smart. Not elloquent, but being well versed in writing and delivering speaches hardly shows how well you plan and coordinate a country.

nik

Of course, coorelation does not prove causation. But I think being able to speak goes a long way to showing how intelligent you are and how well you can coordinate a country.

Stephen Hawking doesn't even have a human voice and he *still* speaks eloquently.

 

[shiner]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Shinerburke, I can't wait till they discover the whereabouts of the stolen Kuwaiti incubators in a secret Iraqi warehouse with the remains of missing American children in them.

I can't wait until they find your brain.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: BDawg

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

That said, I think he's quite smart. Not elloquent, but being well versed in writing and delivering speaches hardly shows how well you plan and coordinate a country.

nik

Of course, coorelation does not prove causation. But I think being able to speak goes a long way to showing how intelligent you are and how well you can coordinate a country.

Stephen Hawking doesn't even have a human voice and he *still* speaks eloquently.

Just cuz he can't talk doesn't mean he's a crappy leader. Clinton was all talk and was a sh|tty leader.

nik

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Shinerburke, I can't wait till they discover the whereabouts of the stolen Kuwaiti incubators in a secret Iraqi warehouse with the remains of missing American children in them.

I can't wait until they find your brain.

LOL - sorry, I don't want to start anything. I just think it's funny.

nik

 

[CPA]

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: BDawg

Originally posted by: shinerburke
It's also funny to me that those who accuse Bush of orchestrating this grand plot to deceive the American public are the same ones who routinely call him an idiot incapable of speaking. You chuckleheads can't have it both ways?..

No, you got it all wrong. Bush is an idiot. Powell, Rice, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Karl Rove are all absolutely intelligent people.

Just as I expected.....the old "Bush is a puppet" argument.

shiner,

now according the Harry Belafonte, Cheney is the puppet. You were right the first time when you said "you chuckleheads can't have it both ways."

 

[CPA]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
We don't need any more reasonsd why Saddam shouldn't live past the day. That was true in 91. I have not been keeping up with the news so this is a guess, but I would say that if the Senate has not yet voted on Bush unleashed, then the intention is to add extra pressure that anybody who opposes him is a traitor and an Iraqi sympathiser. Just an opinion.

When the truth of your cause is unpersuasive, scum will resort to any tactic they can. Not many people would disagree, I think, were they of sufficient mental capacity as to not necessarily connect that statement with the first paragraph.

Moonbeam making a statement without all of the facts! No, it can't be!!!

Actually, Congress gave him the go ahead yesterday. The news of the Navy Captain came out today.

 

[BDawg]

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: BDawg

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

That said, I think he's quite smart. Not elloquent, but being well versed in writing and delivering speaches hardly shows how well you plan and coordinate a country.

nik

Of course, coorelation does not prove causation. But I think being able to speak goes a long way to showing how intelligent you are and how well you can coordinate a country.

Stephen Hawking doesn't even have a human voice and he *still* speaks eloquently.

Just cuz he can't talk doesn't mean he's a crappy leader. Clinton was all talk and was a sh|tty leader.

nik

I don't know about you, but my 8 years under Clinton were just dandy.

 

[shiner]

I don't know about you, but my 8 years under Clinton were just dandy.

Monica?

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: shinerburke

I don't know about you, but my 8 years under Clinton were just dandy.

Monica?

lol - yeah, nothing like a president who lies. link for you
Nothing like a president who is all for the de-militarization of the country.
Nothing like a president who ACCOMPLISHED NOTHING in office.

Clinton was a lazy ass pimp, yes; but he was no president.

nik

 

[BDawg]

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: shinerburke

I don't know about you, but my 8 years under Clinton were just dandy.

Monica?

lol - yeah, nothing like a president who lies. link for you
Nothing like a president who is all for the de-militarization of the country.
Nothing like a president who ACCOMPLISHED NOTHING in office.

Clinton was a lazy ass pimp, yes; but he was no president.

nik

Monica affected me zero. The only ones it affected were the tight-assed conservitives who couldn't get any.

You have your opinions, I have mine. At least Clinton didn't try to alienate the rest of the world.

 

[shiner]

You have your opinions, I have mine. At least Clinton didn't try to alienate the rest of the world.

True, true.....he just sold us out to the highest bidder.

 

[Moonbeam]

Actually shinerburke, since you like to sling insults, you do not, unfortunately, even have a brain TO find. Lets look:

Shiner Quote: "Funny how everyone seems to be up in arms about the status of the pilot being changed now and accusing Bush of manipulating the situation to his advantage. (I reminded you, whether you got or not is another question, of the incubator incident that was use in the Gulf War to whip the American people into a war frenzy. )

Why no mention of the fact that this man has been a prisoner for 12 years and nothing has been done about getting him back until now? (Real good question. Has to be Clinton's fault, right?)

It's also funny to me that those who accuse Bush of orchestrating this grand plot to deceive the American public are the same ones who routinely call him an idiot incapable of speaking. You chuckleheads can't have it both ways?.. (Imitating his father is no great feat of genius. You'd get that in kindergarten politics. Failure to comprehend such a simple and obvious fact makes you the chucklehead as well as a dumb -dumb stupid head poo poo fart head too If that wasn't clear---->In other words, dumbbell, your post was stupid.)

After that exhaustive intellectual analysis I may need a nap.

Oh, but by the way CPA, where did you get the idea that I was making a statement without all the facts? Come on, come on, I haven't got all day! Oh yes, that's right. I told you. Wow, what a cleaver fellow you are. I tell you I'm guessing and you turn around and pretend you've discovered this hilarious truth that I got caught in a guess. AHAHAHAHA AHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAH Oh man that was a scream.

 

[CPA]

Moonbeam,

my intention was not to get a laugh or get a tickle of commenting on the obvious. My point was that the facts were out there, easily out there. But instead of you doing an iota of research you make an assinine comment that Bush intended to use this as leverage. It would have been a respectable opinion if the facts weren't already out there, but they are. Now if the vote were held today, then I think your opinion may have had some merit.

 

[Moonbeam]

I think it still has merit. If the vote in the Senate is passed, the coming Senatorial election has not. I'm going to guess again that some of those that voted no are up for re-election. You got you head in the sand if you think that being skeptical about Bush is asinine. My post gave one very obvious reason. What is asinine is the incapacity to be skeptical. I wasn't in a rush to have the facts. I said I was guessing because I didn't have them. The time I have to get those facts is for me is tonight. I mentioned, I think, being busy. I know and appreciate, however, that I really should check in with you before I post to be sure I did everything right first. Sorry.

Thank you for suggesting that my post could have had merit. I hope you see that the core of my point is that politicians do things to whip up support. They play people like fiddles. they are politicians, that's what they do. If they have no core ethics to prevent it they play dirty. If you think this pilot thing came up by chance now, fine. There is always a miniscule chance that it did.

Now I might have gotten your intent wrong, but lets look at it:

"Moonbeam making a statement without all of the facts! No, it can't be!!!"

Does that really look like laughing at me for not having the facts or telling me the facts were easy to find. It doesn't look like it to me, but I'll gladly take your word for it. The facts may have been easy to find. It wasn't the facts that were the point, it was that the motive is ulterior.