State Senator Pushes For Porn Tax [POLL]

Amused

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The poll is on the website...

http://www.thekansascitychanne...cs/4129105/detail.html

State Senator Pushes For Porn Tax
Missouri Bill Could Charge $5 Fee To Patrons

JEFFERSON CITY, Mo. -- First, Missouri banished sexy billboards and young strip dancers. Now, a state senator wants to force adult entertainment businesses out of the Show-Me State by stripping them of their profits.

Legislation pending in the Senate would impose a 20 percent tax on revenues of all "sexually oriented businesses," charge a $5 fee for each person entering their doors and prohibit them from staying open late at night.

"The goal of the bill is to make Missouri inhospitable for these businesses," said Republican Sen. Matt Bartle, of Lee's Summit.

Adult entertainment executives question whether the legislation violates constitutional free-speech and expression rights and warn it could hurt the state's economy.

"It's a small business killer and it's a job killer," said Dick Snow, owner of Bazooka's Showgirls in Kansas City and a board member of the Missouri Association of Club Executives, the industry's trade group.

As many as 1,000 Missouri businesses could be affected by the legislation, said Snow, who suggested the proposed taxes also could hit mainstream video and book stores that carry a few adult titles.

Two years ago, Missouri passed a law banning nude dancers younger than 19. Last year, Missouri enacted a phased-in prohibition of most billboards for sexually oriented businesses.

Bartle, who sponsored the billboard law, is chairman of the Senate judiciary committee, which held an early hearing this session on his latest attempt to curtail adult entertainment businesses, which are common along Missouri's rural interstates and in its big cities.

If passed, the new taxes and admission fees would go to schools, but Bartle acknowledged his true purpose is to limit the industry.

The proposal is similar to the way Missouri regulates its gambling industry. Riverside casinos pay a 20 percent revenue tax and a $2 fee per customer.

Bartle's legislation would also prohibit adult entertainment businesses from being open between 10 p.m. and 10 a.m. or on Sundays and holidays, and prohibit anyone younger than 21 from working at such businesses.

Angelina Spencer, director of the national Association of Club Executives, estimated that adult entertainment clubs already generate about $12 million a year in Missouri tax revenues.

She said similar ideas have cropped up a few other states.

For example, the Utah Legislature passed a special 10 percent tax on strip clubs and escort services to raise money for sexual offender treatment, but the tax faces a legal challenge.

Also, Texas Gov. Rick Perry last year proposed a $5 admission fee on adult entertainment establishments to help fund education, but the proposal never was enacted.

Snow said the adult entertainment industry would likely challenge the Missouri proposal in court, if it's enacted.

"We can't be afraid of court challenges and we can't wilt away from the porn industry's threats of litigation," Bartle said.

Some adult entertainment owners contend the state already has targeted them enough.

"They're just picking too hard on an establishment that really can't defend themselves," said Skyler Ward, owner of American Hunks and Sweethearts Strip-A-Gram, which operates in Kansas City, St. Louis and elsewhere. "Why would you want to kill the industry?"

Spencer suggested the answer had more to do with God than government.

"This is nothing more than an argument over sin and what someone believes is sinful," Spencer said. "You don't have to like the industry. But we live in this republic that's supposed to be run as a democracy.
 

flamingelephant

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dancers younger that 19? thats kinda dumb... lets ban 18 year olds from dancing.... oh and 27 year olds too.... duhhhhhhhhhhhhhh 1 year? its legal! stupid
 

CaptnKirk

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Let's legislate Morality.


Then we'll go after the Beer Indstry - Oh, wait - Budweisers in St. Louis,
& they pay their Political Graft so they are immune from this type of action.
 

axelfox

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Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Let's legislate Morality.


Then we'll go after the Beer Indstry - Oh, wait - Budweisers in St. Louis,
& they pay their Political Graft so they are immune from this type of action.

But don't we do that already? With laws against murder, larceny?
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: axelfox
Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Let's legislate Morality.


Then we'll go after the Beer Indstry - Oh, wait - Budweisers in St. Louis,
& they pay their Political Graft so they are immune from this type of action.

But don't we do that already? With laws against murder, larceny?

No. Laws prohibiting murder and larceny are laws protecting the rights of others.

Laws against porn, drinking and drugs are "victimless" crimes.
 

Fausto

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: axelfox
Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Let's legislate Morality.


Then we'll go after the Beer Indstry - Oh, wait - Budweisers in St. Louis,
& they pay their Political Graft so they are immune from this type of action.

But don't we do that already? With laws against murder, larceny?

No. Laws prohibiting murder and larceny are laws protecting the rights of others.

Laws against porn, drinking and drugs are "victimless" crimes.
NO THEY'RE NOT. WON'T SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN.

 

PingSpike

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Missouri has more expensive porn. Thats still only like reason number 12,004 to not go there.
 

JackStorm

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Originally posted by: Fausto

NO THEY'RE NOT. WON'T SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN.

YES! Why won't anyone think of the children!? :p

Anyway, who the fvck are they to deside what a person who isn't harming anyone does? Man, these people really need to stop trying to legislate morality. Why won't they just leave us pervs alone!? Gah!
 

Ilmater

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Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
just come over to Kansas or over to Illionois. They get naked here.
But in Kansas they make them put their clothes on after 1:30. BOOOOOO!!!!!
 

Fausto

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Originally posted by: JackStorm
Originally posted by: Fausto

NO THEY'RE NOT. WON'T SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN.

YES! Why won't anyone think of the children!? :p

Anyway, who the fvck are they to deside what a person who isn't harming anyone does? Man, these people really need to stop trying to legislate morality. Why won't they just leave us pervs alone!? Gah!
YOU HAVE TO TYPE IT IN CAPS TO REALLY MAKE YOUR POINT ABOUT THE CHILDREN....AND THINKING OF THEM.
 

SagaLore

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Do condoms and KY jelly get this tax at Walmart?

Everybody say it together with me "We are overtaxed, we are overtaxed". I don't care what the tax is for. There should be a constiutional amendments restricting how many taxes and fees there can be, and then some legislation restricting how high those taxes can get.
 

Wuffsunie

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Ah, another theocratic sin tax :thumbsdown:
If passed, the new taxes and admission fees would go to schools
Yeah right! Almost none of the setups like this actually work (or at least seem to work).
 

Ilmater

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Originally posted by: Wuffsunie
Ah, another theocratic sin tax :thumbsdown:
If passed, the new taxes and admission fees would go to schools
Yeah right! Almost none of the setups like this actually work (or at least seem to work).
More importantly, once all the places leave, then you'd end up LOSING tax money.

Listen, this isn't going to pass. I... know people... in the Missouri Legislature (a Senator in particular), and it's a joke there. It's not going to pass, so it's just one ridiculous religious zealot trying to force his morals on everyone else.
 

DrPizza

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If it's like most places, sure ALL of the tax will go to schools...

Year before the tax...
Schools receive $1,000,000 aid

After the tax is collected:
Schools receive $900,000 aid
and $100,000 from tax revenues
 

Maverick

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The state of Missouri should just ban itself...I swear in my 11 month stint working there I never saw more stupidity than in Missouri.
 

jonMEGA

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I wonder if you ran an adult website from Missouri, would they tax that too?

<--- lives in St. Louis (has adult site)