State of PA (Semi-rant)

DnetMHZ

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OK, I have a semi-rant about the state of Pennsylvania.

My father recently moved to PA, and when he went to get a PA drivers license
the DMV said that they do not accept CASH

Now if I am not mistaken, United states currency is imprinted with the phrase
"This note is legal tender for ALL DEBTS PUBLIC AND PRIVATE

It seems to me that you should be able to pay with actual US cash money for anything in this country! (especially to a state agency)

Am I off base here or is this wrong?

DnetMHZ
 

mss242

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umm, i don't think you're paying a debt. rather, you are paying for a service. but it still sucks ass
 

fatbaby

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In my middle school, a trip we went on required a check for $180 in the name of our school, no cash.
 

dullard

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The US Treasury answer.

"This statute means that all United States money as identified above are a valid and legal offer of payment for debts when tendered to a creditor. There is, however, no Federal statute mandating that a private business, a person or an organization must accept currency or coins as for payment for goods and/or services."

I take that to mean that the MONEY is declared to be legal, but it does not say that places are forced to accept your money. Basically it is clarifying the difference between legal money and illegal money (counterfeit) and old money vs new money.
 

JC

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Not to mention the whole State Liquor Store thing, and the Beer Distributor bs. :|


<------- grew up in PA, managed to get out
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: dnetmhz
OK, I have a semi-rant about the state of Pennsylvania.

My father recently moved to PA, and when he went to get a PA drivers license
the DMV said that they do not accept CASH

Now if I am not mistaken, United states currency is imprinted with the phrase
"This note is legal tender for ALL DEBTS PUBLIC AND PRIVATE

It seems to me that you should be able to pay with actual US cash money for anything in this country! (especially to a state agency)

Am I off base here or is this wrong?

DnetMHZ

Ok? Sure, you should be able to pay for cash, but they have their reasons. Why not whip out a CC and take care of it? I don't understand how something like that would even upset someone. If that happened to me I would just say ok, whip a CC, pay it and be done with it.
 

DnetMHZ

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Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: dnetmhz
OK, I have a semi-rant about the state of Pennsylvania.

My father recently moved to PA, and when he went to get a PA drivers license
the DMV said that they do not accept CASH

Now if I am not mistaken, United states currency is imprinted with the phrase
"This note is legal tender for ALL DEBTS PUBLIC AND PRIVATE

It seems to me that you should be able to pay with actual US cash money for anything in this country! (especially to a state agency)

Am I off base here or is this wrong?

DnetMHZ

Ok? Sure, you should be able to pay for cash, but they have their reasons. Why not whip out a CC and take care of it? I don't understand how something like that would even upset someone. If that happened to me I would just say ok, whip a CC, pay it and be done with it.

What if you don't have a CC?... Should you be forced to go to 7-11 and pay $1.49 for a money order?

 

LeeTJ

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Originally posted by: mss242
umm, i don't think you're paying a debt. rather, you are paying for a service. but it still sucks ass

when your paying for a service, you are paying off a debt.
rolleye.gif
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: dullard
The US Treasury answer.

"This statute means that all United States money as identified above are a valid and legal offer of payment for debts when tendered to a creditor. There is, however, no Federal statute mandating that a private business, a person or an organization must accept currency or coins as for payment for goods and/or services."

I take that to mean that the MONEY is declared to be legal, but it does not say that places are forced to accept your money. Basically it is clarifying the difference between legal money and illegal money (counterfeit) and old money vs new money.

private businesses don't have to but the gov't does
 

DnetMHZ

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: dullard
The US Treasury answer.

"This statute means that all United States money as identified above are a valid and legal offer of payment for debts when tendered to a creditor. There is, however, no Federal statute mandating that a private business, a person or an organization must accept currency or coins as for payment for goods and/or services."

I take that to mean that the MONEY is declared to be legal, but it does not say that places are forced to accept your money. Basically it is clarifying the difference between legal money and illegal money (counterfeit) and old money vs new money.

private businesses don't have to but the gov't does

Thank you
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: dnetmhz
Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: dnetmhz
OK, I have a semi-rant about the state of Pennsylvania.

My father recently moved to PA, and when he went to get a PA drivers license
the DMV said that they do not accept CASH

Now if I am not mistaken, United states currency is imprinted with the phrase
"This note is legal tender for ALL DEBTS PUBLIC AND PRIVATE

It seems to me that you should be able to pay with actual US cash money for anything in this country! (especially to a state agency)

Am I off base here or is this wrong?

DnetMHZ

Ok? Sure, you should be able to pay for cash, but they have their reasons. Why not whip out a CC and take care of it? I don't understand how something like that would even upset someone. If that happened to me I would just say ok, whip a CC, pay it and be done with it.

What if you don't have a CC?... Should you be forced to go to 7-11 and pay $1.49 for a money order?

Are we talking about your Dad or someone else?
 

mjquilly

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Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: dnetmhz
OK, I have a semi-rant about the state of Pennsylvania.

My father recently moved to PA, and when he went to get a PA drivers license
the DMV said that they do not accept CASH

Now if I am not mistaken, United states currency is imprinted with the phrase
"This note is legal tender for ALL DEBTS PUBLIC AND PRIVATE

It seems to me that you should be able to pay with actual US cash money for anything in this country! (especially to a state agency)

Am I off base here or is this wrong?

DnetMHZ

Ok? Sure, you should be able to pay for cash, but they have their reasons. Why not whip out a CC and take care of it? I don't understand how something like that would even upset someone. If that happened to me I would just say ok, whip a CC, pay it and be done with it.

they don't take CC's either - at least not in Ohio
 

DnetMHZ

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Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: dnetmhz
Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: dnetmhz
OK, I have a semi-rant about the state of Pennsylvania.

My father recently moved to PA, and when he went to get a PA drivers license
the DMV said that they do not accept CASH

Now if I am not mistaken, United states currency is imprinted with the phrase
"This note is legal tender for ALL DEBTS PUBLIC AND PRIVATE

It seems to me that you should be able to pay with actual US cash money for anything in this country! (especially to a state agency)

Am I off base here or is this wrong?

DnetMHZ

Ok? Sure, you should be able to pay for cash, but they have their reasons. Why not whip out a CC and take care of it? I don't understand how something like that would even upset someone. If that happened to me I would just say ok, whip a CC, pay it and be done with it.

What if you don't have a CC?... Should you be forced to go to 7-11 and pay $1.49 for a money order?

Are we talking about your Dad or someone else?

Just citizens in general
 

Mill

Lifer
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Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: dullard
The US Treasury answer.

"This statute means that all United States money as identified above are a valid and legal offer of payment for debts when tendered to a creditor. There is, however, no Federal statute mandating that a private business, a person or an organization must accept currency or coins as for payment for goods and/or services."

I take that to mean that the MONEY is declared to be legal, but it does not say that places are forced to accept your money. Basically it is clarifying the difference between legal money and illegal money (counterfeit) and old money vs new money.

private businesses don't have to but the gov't does

I don't see how?

http://www.ustreas.gov/education/faq/currency/legal-tender.html#q1
 

PatboyX

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Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: dnetmhz
Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: dnetmhz
OK, I have a semi-rant about the state of Pennsylvania.

My father recently moved to PA, and when he went to get a PA drivers license
the DMV said that they do not accept CASH

Now if I am not mistaken, United states currency is imprinted with the phrase
"This note is legal tender for ALL DEBTS PUBLIC AND PRIVATE

It seems to me that you should be able to pay with actual US cash money for anything in this country! (especially to a state agency)

Am I off base here or is this wrong?

DnetMHZ

Ok? Sure, you should be able to pay for cash, but they have their reasons. Why not whip out a CC and take care of it? I don't understand how something like that would even upset someone. If that happened to me I would just say ok, whip a CC, pay it and be done with it.

What if you don't have a CC?... Should you be forced to go to 7-11 and pay $1.49 for a money order?

Are we talking about your Dad or someone else?

well, really...a credit card is asking a bit much. yes, im sure everyone of age has one around here. but some people cant get them or dont want them and it seems counter-intuitive to have to pay a small fee (which im assuming it was...my dmv fees tend to be less than 20 bucks) in something other than cash.
 

Mill

Lifer
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Originally posted by: PatboyX
Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: dnetmhz
Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: dnetmhz
OK, I have a semi-rant about the state of Pennsylvania.

My father recently moved to PA, and when he went to get a PA drivers license
the DMV said that they do not accept CASH

Now if I am not mistaken, United states currency is imprinted with the phrase
"This note is legal tender for ALL DEBTS PUBLIC AND PRIVATE

It seems to me that you should be able to pay with actual US cash money for anything in this country! (especially to a state agency)

Am I off base here or is this wrong?

DnetMHZ

Ok? Sure, you should be able to pay for cash, but they have their reasons. Why not whip out a CC and take care of it? I don't understand how something like that would even upset someone. If that happened to me I would just say ok, whip a CC, pay it and be done with it.

What if you don't have a CC?... Should you be forced to go to 7-11 and pay $1.49 for a money order?

Are we talking about your Dad or someone else?

well, really...a credit card is asking a bit much. yes, im sure everyone of age has one around here. but some people cant get them or dont want them and it seems counter-intuitive to have to pay a small fee (which im assuming it was...my dmv fees tend to be less than 20 bucks) in something other than cash.

Then there are people like me that hate cash only places. I typically NEVER carry cash with me. I abhor getting cash from an ATM as well. Why use cash? Put it on a Rewards card and reap the bennies.
 

Cyberian

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Originally posted by: Millennium

Then there are people like me that hate cash only places. I typically NEVER carry cash with me. I abhor getting cash from an ATM as well. Why use cash? Put it on a Rewards card and reap the bennies.
Because Grandpa doesn't want to bury credit card slips in a coffee can in the back yard.

 

flot

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FYI, I think the reason most places that don't take cash have for not taking it, is because it's a pain to deal with.

1) You have to trust your employees not to steal it from you
2) You have to trust your employees to be able to identify counterfeit money
3) If someone DOES scam you, you have no recourse/way to trace exactly who it was
4) You have to proctect yourself from robberies
5) You have to make periodic trips to a bank

etc

Places that take in a lot of money in a day (like a state agency could) would have to dedicate a lot of resources to protecting and dealing with that money. It isn't really surprising they don't take cash, especially if you look at some of the employees....
 

Mill

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Cyberian
Originally posted by: Millennium

Then there are people like me that hate cash only places. I typically NEVER carry cash with me. I abhor getting cash from an ATM as well. Why use cash? Put it on a Rewards card and reap the bennies.
Because Grandpa doesn't want to bury credit card slips in a coffee can in the back yard.

Clashing of age subsets. Hell, I can't I don't use cash unless I have to, and I use TWO checks a month. Rent and car note. I am actually pissed that I can't pay the car note online. Every other bill I have is done online.

 

Cyberian

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Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: Cyberian
Originally posted by: Millennium

Then there are people like me that hate cash only places. I typically NEVER carry cash with me. I abhor getting cash from an ATM as well. Why use cash? Put it on a Rewards card and reap the bennies.
Because Grandpa doesn't want to bury credit card slips in a coffee can in the back yard.

Clashing of age subsets. Hell, I can't I don't use cash unless I have to, and I use TWO checks a month. Rent and car note. I am actually pissed that I can't pay the car note online. Every other bill I have is done online.
I was talking more about why some businesses don't accept cash.

:)
 

Jzero

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Originally posted by: dnetmhz
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: dullard
The US Treasury answer.

"This statute means that all United States money as identified above are a valid and legal offer of payment for debts when tendered to a creditor. There is, however, no Federal statute mandating that a private business, a person or an organization must accept currency or coins as for payment for goods and/or services."

I take that to mean that the MONEY is declared to be legal, but it does not say that places are forced to accept your money. Basically it is clarifying the difference between legal money and illegal money (counterfeit) and old money vs new money.

private businesses don't have to but the gov't does

Thank you
Except in PA, the place you go to get licenses, registrations and tags are PRIVATELY OWNED! Why doesn't he just go to a different tag shop?

BTW, PA is a Commonwealth, not a state.
And it is a crappy one at that.
 

Mill

Lifer
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Originally posted by: dnetmhz
Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: dnetmhz
Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: dnetmhz
OK, I have a semi-rant about the state of Pennsylvania.

My father recently moved to PA, and when he went to get a PA drivers license
the DMV said that they do not accept CASH

Now if I am not mistaken, United states currency is imprinted with the phrase
"This note is legal tender for ALL DEBTS PUBLIC AND PRIVATE

It seems to me that you should be able to pay with actual US cash money for anything in this country! (especially to a state agency)

Am I off base here or is this wrong?

DnetMHZ

Ok? Sure, you should be able to pay for cash, but they have their reasons. Why not whip out a CC and take care of it? I don't understand how something like that would even upset someone. If that happened to me I would just say ok, whip a CC, pay it and be done with it.

What if you don't have a CC?... Should you be forced to go to 7-11 and pay $1.49 for a money order?

Are we talking about your Dad or someone else?

Just citizens in general

Should I be forced to have to pay cash only somewhere?